Humans don't belong on earth?

reply to post by AwakeinNM

Yeah, you're probably right. We evolved from monkeys like you believe we did. You win. Looks like you're spending a lot of time kicking sand in people's faces on this thread. Feel good, big shot?

All IlluminatusOculus33 did was explain that other animals also overheat in the sun, and try to find shade just as humans do.

That’s ‘kicking sand in people’s faces’? What if he or she had brought up the whole business about reptiles, which are far less well adapted to handling broad ranges of temperature than humans (or mammals of any kind) are?

Please understand that if you choose to believe things that are not true, things that fly in the face of what science has shown to be the truth, then experience (and other people) will point out your errors to you, over and over again. That’s just the way things are; reality is hard to evade. If you choose to take every correction as a personal affront, not only are you being over-sensitive, you are also guaranteeing that you will never come to learn the truth, and your whole life will be filled with unhappy collisions of this kind.

Human beings are no better or worse adapted to life on Earth than any other species of living thing. If you don’t see it, that betrays a lack of knowledge, which can easily be corrected by paying attention to what is really going on around you. But if you refuse to see it, then you are actually embracing falsehood and delusion, and nobody will ever be able to help you. I hope it is not already too late for you to mend your ways.

I agree with you that we did not evolve from monkeys. I bet IlluminatusOculus33 doesn’t think we evolved from monkeys either. Another illusion on your part. See what happens when you won’t look straight at the world?

nice thread, love this stuff.

im not a creationist, i just dont buy it.
if i was classed as anything it would have been an evolutionist until i watched some vid that pointed out that our skin isnt adapted to this planets climate. Not without clothing....

if we had evolved from primates, at which point did we loose our hair in favor of clothes?
theres only a small band across the globe where we could survive naked.
too far north or south of that line and its just too damn cold for us to survive without clothes.

how does one evolve to 'require' clothes to survive?

the vid i had watched was about intervention theory i think. a lot of it would be an interesting debate here i reckon but that one point about our skin did make an eyebrow raise.

reply to post by fill0000


Actually, no. That is not what it means. No second line.

reply to post by Raskadawg

We wear clothes because we moved out of our point of origin. Many tribes in equatorial locations across the globe do not wear clothes. A by-product of moving out of tropical climates into harsher and colder climates, which required innovative sartorial to provide warmth, was skin more sensitive to the sun's radiation, which itself was a by-product of lighter-skinned individuals reproducing differentially to create tribal barriers.

Just like your other thread, this one's nonsense too...

1) Not all animals have "night vision" as you claim.
2) The vast majority has some sort of shelter.
3) Baby animals are often just as vulnerable as human babies.

Humans are less adapted to one particular environment, we make up for it with our brain. Don't have feathers to keep you warm? Fine, make a jacket. Just like a monkey uses a stick to fish for magots it can't reach with its bare hands. Or an octopus uses an abandoned bottles as shelter.

Sry, but we're just not that special. Quite impressive, sure, but not special in the grander scheme of things.

Some animals are AI. They are a part of the coding of the world around us. Another interesting point is that we're in our own earth hotel room some or more of the time than we realize. There is no time except as a program in our brains, where the only clock ticks. And time can be altered, paused, stopped, rewound, fast forwarded by Higher Ups, and each of us in this school has a team trying to pull us through the traps here, nudge, give us conscience bouts so we don't make train wrecks of our lives and harm others.

In our own families, our loved ones can be perceptions quite a lot of the time or all the time if they've already passed and are out of the earthschool on their time frame.

Not only was this whole school made for us, but its also alot of perception. Ie. a dreamscape in part. Everyone is on their own individual time line.

Originally posted by Unity_99
Some animals are AI. They are a part of the coding of the world around us. Another interesting point is that we're in our own earth hotel room some or more of the time than we realize. There is no time except as a program in our brains, where the only clock ticks. And time can be altered, paused, stopped, rewound, fast forwarded by Higher Ups, and each of us in this school has a team trying to pull us through the traps here, nudge, give us conscience bouts so we don't make train wrecks of our lives and harm others.

In our own families, our loved ones can be perceptions quite a lot of the time or all the time if they've already passed and are out of the earthschool on their time frame.

Not only was this whole school made for us, but its also alot of perception. Ie. a dreamscape in part. Everyone is on their own individual time line.

Which is your BELIEF...not fact

This topic is a waste of what ATS is supposed to be for. There are more inportant, intelligent discussions to be had.

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by steveknows

 

We are the most dangerous well adapted predator on the planet and we have the most dangerous natural tools for the job.

It was worth my while persisting with this trainwreck of a thread just to have read your post. A star from me.

There are people on this thread simultaneously claiming that we’re helpless in the face of nature, yet have somehow managed to ravage the natural environment, exterminate numerous species, etc. Clearly they are missing something. I guess it’s the same thing a zoo animal misses after a lifetime of being cooped up in an enclosure and fed by keepers.

Some don’t forget. A business tycoon twenty years my senior once told me how, as a young tea trader, he would go into the jungle with his brother and a dog to hunt for wild boar, deer and the odd sambhur. They travelled – this sounds unlikely but I can vouch that it was often done – on a motorbike. One day, they’d just arrived, found a clearing to camp in and had gone off to fetch water from a nearby stream. On their return, they found a leopard sniffing about the place. The old boy – this was at a cocktail party full of preening socialites – described to me how he and his brother almost suffocated the dog that was with them, trying to keep it from growling. I assumed this was because they were afraid the leopard would attack them, and said something to that effect.

The old man laughed.

'No,’ he said. ‘We were trying to get to the bike before it noticed us.’

‘Get to the bike?’ I asked. ‘What for?’

‘The shotguns were on the bike,’ he replied.

They hadn’t thought, as I had, about the danger, but about what a great ‘bag’ a leopard skin would be.

A few months later, the man who told me this story was indicted for insider trading on my country’s stock exchange. He cheated the judge, though – had a massive stroke and died before he was to appear in court.

I don’t approve of hunting for sport, but some of us will always be predators. And given the right circumstances, nearly all of us would be. Thank you for showing just how good we would be at it, guns or no guns.

I believe about the 2 men and a dog on a bike as I've seen it myself. And I agree with the hunting for sport to me there's no real purpose to it other than a waste for glory. The very example you've given shows just what the pro humans have been saying. Two human animals with no fangs or claws but with a brain that can think abstract thoughts and reach for the weapons that level the playing ground which allowes them fight rather than flight and another animal which has been trained by the human animal to help protect it. That very scene of hunters and a k9 coming across a big cat and being able to do something about it has most likely been repeated millions of times over tens of thousands of years.

a reply to: steveknows

Because we are Animals and we're enslaved in a system where man take our vote in trade for a false since of comfort and fear of death and shelter we give man consent to rule over us there's no such thing as men/woman only male/female we give them the power to play God/Satan Over us and they erase every trace of our true nature from eyes view and make us hate who we are to keep from going back to our true Nature the reason we Are subject to so much illnesses is because this environment isn't fit for us the air crops, soil does not contain nutrients we need to self heal so they have to create man mad cures to keep us Alive we don't feel we belong here cause there are no Trees to shield us from the sun No trees with fruit only bulidlings and who's doing all of this? Man is... this man made system is literally handicapping us the universe provides the earth provides the sun provides the Skies provide the seed the earth provide the vessel for it to grow but the Sun/the light provides it with the will to grow and just like our creator we consist of the 3 Mind/skies earth/body Energy/soul physically we are made in the image of this earth Mentally we are made in the image of the universe and our sprit is made in the image of the sun what we think what we see and what we do are 3 different things the true instructions of the creator is the creation itself the Tree is the teacher for it is a creation of what created it all but a piece of paper with words on it is man made it is only something dead that once had life just as its creator I mean how can u blame God for starving children when God put food in every form on this earth we're even food at the right time and God made it free but voting for man and giving man rule over us in a man made system is why kids are starving!

a reply to: [post=21321667]ACreationOfMyCreator[/pos t
In the Bible They speak Of God as loving and wanting whats for our Best but the things they speak of is describing Gods intentions as a man but the physical description is that of a ghost but The Devil only comes into play when the subject questions Or disagree with "God" and theyre describing sin against God as rebelling against the system a man made system but the actions of the devil is Described as Nature killing us When nature only provides for us while man steal,hide and sell the riches of the earth and blame it on a ghost nothing and Saying that's God while ignoring what's in plain sight When ppl pray its only to dead men who are we praying to if God already provides?

a reply to: ACreationOfMyCreator

Confusing huh? Well their Bible says that the devil is the author of confusion right? The Creation is the instructions of the Creator Who wrote the book? MAN!

a reply to: ACreationOfMyCreator

Mans book says I have a battle within my self right? But God showed me that I am the Caterpillar and the Butterfly it describes physical and mental evolution of a human from child to Adult hood we evolve everyday mentally physically and emotionally learning from plants fish animals skies earth all of this is a major benefit to our walk through life this system is built to keep us from learning that cause wtf we need them for if we realize we are the key to our own life and there is no such thing as death only ends and every end creates a new beginning if a human can build a TV of materials that have no life until its plugged in energyis snatched from the sky to powers it but when its unplugged that signal goes back to wear it come from if a human can do that image what whoever or whatever is like that made all of this is capable of doing with its creation if that's what's considered death I die every night and rise in the morning

a reply to: [post=21321800]ACreationOfMyCreator[/post
One of the things that's mostly touched my heart is when u look at a bird That our creator actually made they can do the only thing nothing else can do on this earth no matter how much we try we cant fly here physically A bird will have and egg even before its born the bird is equipped to build it a nest it hatches its Egg and feed the bird etc after it teaches it pushes its baby out of the nest and out of the tree and if it doesn't fly right before it hits the ground the mama bird catches it but do it over and over until the baby learn to use its wings we won't fly again until we move on to our next stage of life so we best learn how to use ours cause this life is our push out of the nest not our fall

I believe we are supposed to be here even though we are not of here. The way I see it is we are evolved of an alien race and we were put here by our ancestors to keep the planet safe. We're doing a bang up job of it too... destroying it with our own greed and hatred. Maybe in a few millennia we will evolve further and become a more benevolent race.

originally posted by: s0kelli0ngton
The way I see it is we are evolved of an alien race and we were put here by our ancestors to keep the planet safe.

And yet there is zero evidence of aliens civilizations and plenty of evidence of our evolution on this planet.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but there is no evidence of us having 'alien' DNA.

originally posted by: RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Think about it.
Cats, dog etc, have fur, feathers, scales etc to protect them from their natural enviroment, they dont need to live in houses,

And had we not evolved to create clothes and shelter we would also have fur all over our bodies to protect us. Not just cold but the hair in our ears, noses, armpits and genitals are.to help keep things clean too. We don't need that as much with antibiotics and other medicines.

originally posted by: RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
they are born perfect without dissabilities, due to evolution and the survival of the fittest.

No, they're not. Animals are born with disabilities and you have to be really ignorant not to know that. Anyone who's spent any time online has seen a 2 headed snake or goat. Dogs born with no eyes etc.

originally posted by: RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Hell horses on their first day they are born, they are running around, not that i like horses, just pointing it out.

That's because they're very vulnerable and they can move to escape predators. Other animals have other defences.

originally posted by: RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Those animals have perfect night vision, humans can barely see in the dark.

Umm, no, they don't all have it. There are many animals who have the same disability on.the dark hours as we do.

This topic really hasn't been researched very well by the OP, most of the premise is wrong...

originally posted by: loves a conspiricy
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni

 

Evolution is not time based....

What made you think time is a major factor in evolution?????

Humans need much longer parental care than most any other animal on earth. Most animals can forage around after a few days or weeks after they are born. It takes humans at least 5-6 years to become fully functional just for basic survival skills.

Finally! A thread saying what I have always been thinking.
It's so obvious we don't fit in on this planet, yet if you mention it to most people, they look at you like you're crazy. So conditioned.

So, we are the aliens ?