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Whites Become Minority in America

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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reply to post by illuminatislave
 

Well put, and hence I sometimes find it so disturbing that self-styled "anti-racists" are selectively anti-racist.
We hear nothing about how white and Asian productive minorities were thrown out of African countries, like Uganda or Zimbabwe.
We hear nothing about the Chinese importing their workers from China to African mines in Zambia, and how locals were shot.
It's all just anti-white, anti-white, anti-white.
Racism is not just a white thing, or a black or yellow thing, but reading comments like yours on ATS makes it appear so.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Hell yea it is unacceptable! At least in Europe.


Why?

That's really all I got....why?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Hell yea it is unacceptable! At least in Europe.


Why?

That's really all I got....why?


Because why should we allow another race to take over the country founded by your race?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by illuminatislave
 

Well put, and hence I sometimes find it so disturbing that self-styled "anti-racists" are selectively anti-racist.
We hear nothing about how white and Asian productive minorities were thrown out of African countries, like Uganda or Zimbabwe.
We hear nothing about the Chinese importing their workers from China to African mines in Zambia, and how locals were shot.
It's all just anti-white, anti-white, anti-white.
Racism is not just a white thing, or a black or yellow thing, but reading comments like yours on ATS makes it appear so.




Racism is not exclusive to white people.

If you hate or discriminate someone because of their skin color, you are scum, period.

There are cases of racism coming from all sides. The problem is that in this country(USA), there is a historical precedent for racism towards non whites, so obviously that sticks out more when the topic of racism comes up.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Nephalim

Originally posted by Sternblut

Originally posted by Muckster

Originally posted by Jepic

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by CherubBaby
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Thanks for the thread. Minority or not. I think the real issue at hand is Americans are becoming a minority in America..
S/F


Nice. The only this is it's barely readable, and what would you like, a screenshot?

Are you suggesting only whites are "Americans"???



Even though I don't live in America I'd say yes. Americans (as in the ones that founded this country and fought of the british) are white. Anyone other race is just americanised. Even if they were born in America.


What about the Chinese who built the railways and worked in construction. Or the Black people who helped define American culture with blues and Jazz and worked the plantations that helped the economy. Or the Italians who gave America their fantastic food, not to mention a few good boxers and "ol blue eyes" himself.

Oh, and African Americans and native American Indians thought against the British too.

America is made up of many different people, some white European some not... Polish, Irish, English, African, Asian, Chinese etc...

And that’s not even mentioning the Native American Indians who are the actual true Americans.

Peace


regrettable I can't find a copy of the declaration of independence, but after it says all men are created equal, it follows up with only white men. seriously lol find a copy of it and it's right there. I'm surprised I can't google it!



Here you go. Have a go at your point.
Link to the Declaration of Independence


So you want a screenshot or whaT? Cause that's tiny, and your not going to read it lol

I will combat all the replies I got to me specifically with this:

Why is reverse racism against whites? So regular racism is just for whites to be, and only whites are racist?

Above all the things with race, and people asking me why the white race should live, in how many numbers and how to treat other people.
I'd like to say that if you want all the races, cultures and religions to mix your on your way to becoming pawns of the Illuminati even if you think they are Nazis.
No matter what I think about the races or anyone else here, I will say that a boiled together hive minded human race is NOT what I want for my kids. So why cant I just be white? Because if I stay white in a white country I'm a racist. So is this about people polar bear hunting or is it about the perfect work horse race, all mixed together, stupid and without a cultural past??
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Jepic
Just because you like one race above all others because of let's say physical appearance doesn't make you racist. What makes you racist is hating other races. In other words seeing them as OVERALL inferior.

Personal preference doesn't make you racist.



The rules of racism.(sort of like the laws of robots- Heinlein
1. There are different races.
2. Different races have different attributes. Health,Color,Looks,Intelligence,
Talent-Linguistic Artistic Musical etc,Physical abilities,etc
3. One may or may not decide to discriminate against or for a race based on attributes.

If you believe any of the above you are racist.
If you believe there are different races,
you are a racist.
If you believe different races have different attributes , such as color
you are racist.
If you like or dislike a race based on any attributes you believe they have
you are racist.
Based on the above it would seem impossible for a person who knows that people
are different not to be classified as a racist.
One would need to be an insane cultural Marxist who believes that black is white,
to not be a racist.
Everybody is racist except the blind retarded.
That doesnt mean everybody wants to harm other races.
Some people believe in discriminating in favor of other races and against their own.
They are racists too.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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I was a firefighter for 30 years in the u.k. My station ground was 99% white working class i.e. miners, steelworkers, labourers etc and where the backbone of the local economy. The households were poor but clean and everyone knew each other. Over the years I watched immigants (illegal and legal although mostly illegal) force the local population out of the area. The area within a 5 mile radius of the station is now comprised of a mixture of asian, somali, ugandan, polish, lithuanian, albanian and many more. The area is a no go area, the streets are ruled by drug dealers. Pheadophile rings, prostitution and violence are the norm. When we had to fit smoke alarms it wasn`t for the old people first it was for the immigrants, when we complained we were warned that we could be disciplined for our comments. It is a fact that there has been a positive bias against white working class people trying to enter the fire service, recruitment drives were aimed at black and ethnic candidates, pre courses were given to the so called miorities to show them how to properly complete application forms when in actual fact the biggest and most deprived minority were the young white unemployed who were not given a chance to go on these courses. This is a fact in most of the public sector. This scenario is being repeated all over the country immigrants are now the majority in lots of cities and towns. All this guy is calling for is to be treated equal in regards to benefits etc. Now before anyone starts jumping down my throat about being a racist or being predujiced i have seen this and dealt with it first hand, but to do a firefighters job you have to treat everyone as an equal even when we fitted alarms for illegals who (when they could speak english) openly bragged about there benefits.When we told senior ranks we were ordered not to speak of it, even the fire brigade union warned us to keep quiet. I am retired now and have no worries about making these comments but believe me immigrants are being given benefits for whatever reason to the detriment of the white working class. So there you are, give me as much stick as you want but take a close look around you. By the way my mate lives in l.a. and he has expierienced exactly the same with the mexicans.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:20 PM
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No, that's all good.
I just don't see the immediate "Stormfront" connections on ATS, because to me that's immediately like people saying "you're racist scum, so shut up".
I've enjoyed the rest of your posts however, and it's always good to be prompted to think more moderately, or constructively.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by illuminatislave
 

No, that's all good.
I just don't see the immediate "Stormfront" connections on ATS, because to me that's immediately like people saying "you're racist scum, so shut up".
I've enjoyed the rest of your posts however, and it's always good to be prompted to think more moderately, or constructively.


The stormfront comment was hyperbole, but as a long time lurker who has started to actively post, I've noticed that a lot of ignorant and racist commentary has been flowing like running water on this site in a manner that I have never seen.

There are at least three or four posts on the 1st page of this thread that are blatantly racist. I'm just calling it like I see it, some folks have a very ignorant and warped view of the world and about people who are not the same skin color as they are. It's sad really.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by jtap66
Who cares?

This will only bother racists and xenophobes. So my race isn't the majority anymore. Whatever. I just hope the other majority races treat us with a bit more respect than we as caucasians have traditionally treated them.

I agree. Just don't be surprised if you see right-wing radio pundits try to make an issue out of this.


Originally posted by discharged77
Cool, now I should go to the top of the line for section 8 housing, 10$ a month rent here I come. Next on my agenda is going to be free health care, food stamps, heating gas paid for, etc.. Oh, now I can have 10 kids and not have to worry about who's footing the bill!! This will be great, do you think we will get to play the race card too? If so I got big plans to sue my way to the top.
Good luck getting that done when you make racist remarks like that. It really does say a lot about you as well as the 8 people who starred your post.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Well what I notice here is a lot of people trying to find passports and at least planning outside possibilities.

Asian/Indians expelled from Uganda:



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Well put, and hence I sometimes find it so disturbing that self-styled "anti-racists" are selectively anti-racist.
We hear nothing about how white and Asian productive minorities were thrown out of African countries, like Uganda or Zimbabwe.
We hear nothing about the Chinese importing their workers from China to African mines in Zambia, and how locals were shot.
It's all just anti-white, anti-white, anti-white.
Racism is not just a white thing, or a black or yellow thing, but reading comments like yours on ATS makes it appear so.



Well I consider myself to be one of the "anti Racist” you talk about and to be honest 99% of the threads I find, that I think are racist or bigoted, are normally aimed at Muslims people, black people, Jewish people etc...

Rarely do i find threads aimed at white people (in fact I can’t think of one) but if I do I will confront that as robustly as I confront all forms of racism. Oh, I also find a lot of intolerance towards Christians and sadly some intolerant Christians. This does not make me think that Muslim/black/Jewish people etc cannot be racist or bigoted... it’s simply the demographics of ATS. But I will fight it wherever I find it and whoever is doing it, regardless of skin colour!

As for not hearing anything about other races crimes... Well, maybe you just hear what you want to hear...

From the news...

Burma profile

Syria unrest: UN rights body to investigate crackdown

Details emerge of Chinese artist Ai Weiwei's detention

North Korea willing on human rights, says US envoy

India's caste-offs

Zimbabwean farmers grow Nigeria's green revolution

Farmers attacked in Zimbabwe

South Africa permits for Zimbabwe

From the movies...

The Last King of Scotland

Hotel Rwanda

Tears of the Sun

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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It's good that you hear all that, and interpret it in racial terms.
Food for thought indeed.

Here is some more on the last stage of the expulsion of 4000 productive white farmers from Zimbabwe.
Once the bread-basket of Africa - now begging close to my doorstep (3 million Zimbabweans in SA officially).

Meanwhile Mugabe is just as rich as always.

All the African and Asian dictators live up to racist expectations.
Somebody must really ask them to stop, or they will vindicate the racists.




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
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So where do you see the prosperous people of all races in the US, with small responsible families fitting into the larger global picture of failed states and irresponsible procreative traditions that can only be relived by allowing them and their traditions access to Western countries like the US by any means necessary?

Wouldn't you say that's not just accommodating immigrants but asking for a never ending flood?
When the US got their "melting pot", how many were from a vastly dissimilar culture?



Do you see these people your talking about flooding by the masses to the US?

Seriously. How many more questions can come out of the question you have just asked?
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Well, they cannot exactly flood, since the continents are not connected, but as far as possible, yes I do.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Try by the millions. We have not fallen as of yet.

Here is a question for you.
Are you an American citizen living in SA or were you born in SA?
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Mugabe gets a roaring applause by over 1000 people in Harlem, USA.
Who called this racist?
Who was there to point out his homophobia?

Not the "selective racists" for sure!

The remaining President of Zimbabwe - Robert Mugabe!
Oh dear the people are starving, and tortured, and the elections are rigged!
Infrastructure and public health has collapsed.
Where are the Africanist activists now?
Oh no, they are all selective racists and only care if white people cause black suffering.
Or so it seems?




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Nope I'm not an American citizen at all, and hence I shall withdraw from the debate.
I'm a South African citizen.
I wanted to honestly and blatantly express an opinion, but may be going a bit off topic now.
The way I feel here seems imposed from above, and it has nothing to do with disliking any individual of another race.
I actually love Africa, but I just don't find the liberal views doing it any favors.
It's like we're screwed again!



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by Nephalim
 

Nope I'm not an American citizen at all, and hence I shall withdraw from the debate.
I'm a South African citizen.
I wanted to honestly and blatantly express an opinion, but may be going a bit off topic now.
The way I feel here seems imposed from above, and it has nothing to do with disliking any individual of another race.
I actually love Africa, but I just don't find the liberal views doing it any favors.
It's like we're screwed again!



I completely agree as an american I think we shall follow suit. Please don't let obama get assissanated!

Even the whites in the US will be polar bear hunting!



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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I thought the questions were relevant as they pertain to the fear of one race outgrowing another and the mechanism- such as the melting pot, not slowing those imbalances but instead allowing them to progress.

I saw nothing wrong with the question nor the opinion and I don't see anyone else backing out of posts here so why should you? People outside of the US are usually fairly vocal about things that honestly, Us citizens should be concerned about but aren't. In most cases I enjoy the outside perspective, as long as it voiced constructively.

Apologies for the intrusion of privacy, I figured you might be an American living out that way by choice as often, many people actually come here, get an education and take it right back home in order to help address their homeland issues.-which was a potential example of how a "flood" is not always considered (at least by me) a negative impact.
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