I just came across this 9/11 debate between Professor Fetzer and Bill O Reilly, and I think you guys should see it for yourselves.
It begins with Bill O Reilly talking about another professor who has recently called President Bush a murderer, and thinks that Bush orchestrated 9/11
"without providing a shred of evidence", in a very condescending tone. Right off the bat, he's "poisoning the well" (as the YouTube comment below
describes) by setting the stage that people believe outrageous claims like that without any evidence. His bias is nauseating.
Then the first thing O Reilly says is he's getting tired of professors who "hate their country" and bring their hatred onto a campus. :shk: There you
have it, tens of thousands of viewers who are easily influenced by Bill O Reilly now believe that people who don't believe the official story hate
their country.
Jim Fetzer tells him that's wrong and describes Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which consists of hundreds of experts who see crucial flaws in the official
story and don't buy it.
Bill O Reilly then interrupts him and calls him a nut. He doesn't even listen to the evidence he has, he just calls him a nut. And sadly, this
attitude is what millions of Americans have, many of them on this very website. O Reilly brings up his opinion that for 9/11 to be an inside job,
thousands of people would have to be involved. He then compares 9/11 Truthers to people who think "space aliens kidnapped aliens".
Bill O Reilly then makes something up, and says it's Fetzers opinion. He says "So your opinion is that Bush murdered everybody on 9/11 to seize
control and make him the dictator of America or whatever crazy thing it is. My opinion is you're nuts". I don't recall Jim every saying that, but hey,
it's Bill O Reilly! He's stupid!
Then Bill O Reilly brings up another professor discussing this with students. Last time I checked Jim Fetzer was Jim Fetzer, not the other professor.
But hey, it's Bill O Reilly!
O Reilly then says that if he had any evidence, he would be "on the front page of the New York Times in a heartbeat". Right, I'm sure the mainstream
media would be all over that...but O Reilly continues to boast that he and his organization are not associated with any mainstream media outlet,
therefore the claims are inaccurate. Nice logic O Reilly!
Fetzer, in his 5 seconds that Bill lets him talk before ignorantly interrupting him like the ass he is, brings up the hundreds of papers and studies
that have been published and brings up that the collapse of Building 7 was a controlled demolition.
Then once again, O Reilly brags that he can't get any of this on the front page of a bunch of newspapers that he lists off. Fetzer tells him that any
mainstream news outlet is too dominated by the federal government, and backs that claim up by a published paper written by Carl Bernstein in which he
explains how the CIA controls CBS, Time, Life, and the NY Times, and today the situation is much worse.
The history of the
CIA's involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception . . . .
Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were William Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Time Inc., Arthur
Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the Louisville Courier-Journal and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other
organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United
Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, The Miami Herald, and the old
Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald-Tribune. By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with The New
York Times, CBS, and Time Inc.
Fetzer then says that if anybody is interested in finding the truth, they should go to their website st911.org.
O Reilly then calls him crazy again, big shocker. Here's why:
"1. You hate your country", um nope he never said that or implied that.
"2. You're a loon", so a reason backing up his craziness is a synonym for the word crazy, very intelligent critical thinking O Reilly.
Then O Reilly talks about Fetzer believing that the Bush Administration are murderers who killed 3,000 Americans because he wanted to increase his
power and suspend all civil liberties. "All" civil liberties is too extreme, but that's his tactic, make them look as crazy as possible by wording and
skewing their arguments to make them look crazy. He then says that Bush worked in conjunction with thousands of people and the press is covering it up
because they're "afraid" of the federal government.
O Reilly's rebuttal to the argument that he has restated and skewed? "Come on....why don't you just say you have a martian living in your bedroom".
How does this idiot have viewers? Who are the people that watch his show?
Fetzer, with the 10 seconds he has to speak, says that they've found that the governments account is provably false on every major account, and he
calls out Bill and says "he can't handle the truth", and goes off on him for saying he hates his country when he's a "former Marine Corp officer"
himself, and O Reilly once again says he hates his country.
Jim Fetzer barely had any time to speak either, O Reilly just kept interrupting him with his "you hate your country" and "you're crazy" accusations.
:bnghd:
Even if you think 9/11 truthers are crazy, you have to admit that O Reilly was a total douche during this entire "discussion".
Here's the video.....:
edit on 1-9-2011 by TupacShakur because: To edit my post
O Reilly is as useless as the teets on a boar hog. He's almost as stupid as Beck but he doesn't cry when his ratings go down. He really showed his
ignorance when Jeremy Glick was on his show.
There's a classic interview with Richard Dawkins where Dawkins OWNS him.. And all Bill does in repost is try to make a joke, a bad joke, to attempt
to mask his ignorance.. Look it up!
O'Reilly was right. Fetzer is a loon and only a half witted loon would believe anything he says. Not sure what his motive is but he sure isn't
interested in the "truth".
Wow they tore Bill O Reilly apart in that video. If I was ever on his show for whatever reason, I would absolutely lose it because even just listening
to how he constantly interrupts people and shoves words into their mouths infuriates me.
O'Reilly was right. Fetzer is a loon and only a half witted loon would believe anything he says. Not sure what his motive is but he sure
isn't interested in the "truth".
Are you kidding dude? "Believe anything he says", he didn't even get a chance to say anything! He had
like 15 seconds to get his points across each time and would get interrupted before he even finished and O Reilly would just call him crazy and
unpatriotic for 90 seconds.
That was not a discussion, that was pure ignorance. He clearly had no intention of having a mature discussion, he just wanted to attack 9/11
conspiracy theorists and nothing else.
I dont get Bill O reily here, but am aware of his show. I noticed a lot of spin for a show called the "no spin zone". That ought to tell you
something.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
I think Bill O is a douchebag, but do you honestly think that his viewers are that robotic?
People who want to feel reinforced in their own opinions and especially, their attitude, champion Bill O'reily. A lot of thought and planning goes
into running the propaganda machine.
Allow me to quote.
Originally posted by wasco2
O'Reilly was right. Fetzer is a loon and only a half witted loon would believe anything he says. Not sure what his motive is but he sure isn't
interested in the "truth".
edit on 1-9-2011 by Cassius666 because: (no reason given)
I just watched that and yeah O Reilly got destroyed. He compared science/evolution to fascism at one point I don't know how anybody can support
O Reilly......
If O Reilly had a legitimate discussion with one of the members of AE911 Truth / Scholars For 9/11 Truth he would get slapped down. But with constant
interruptions, accusations, and insane comparisons, there's really no getting through his thick head.
edit on 1-9-2011 by TupacShakur because:
To edit my post
Wow, his mentality is dangerously unintelligent. Like when he says something along the lines of "support the war or shut up", I just can't believe
that. That is some pure, uncut propaganda.