What would it take for you to Revolt?

Wasn't sure if this was the right forum for it but anyway.

America has been lied to over and over again, gotten into war after war - at YOUR expense - and is slowly but surely attempting to get rid of as many of your constitutional rights as it can.

I could go on for hours giving you examples of reasons to revolt, but I consider the members on ATS to be well educated on current events, especially in comparison to the rest of the world. Instead, I thought I would just ask everyone:

What is it going to take for you, as a single person, to say "Ok, enough is enough" and protest/preach/stop paying your taxes?

I am very interested to hear the replies, as I know some are already in the process of protesting, however there are others who will refuse to do anything until the problem knocks on their front door.

edit; I am aware this is directed more at Americans and I apologize if I somehow offended someone.

In light of the transgressions over many years, I can say I am ready now.

In some cases I would go at it alone, but the majority of the cases would require others to be involved. I have to think about self-preservation and the power of numbers.

I think people are ready now, but we've been brainwashed into submission. I know if I didn't have a mob of people behind me in my protests, I'd probably just be thrown in jail and mocked by the failure that is American news.

I would definitely join a resistance if opposition got on a level like during the Civil War.

it wont happen untill we are doing without our basic needs.
when there is no power, water, food, and there are things like, economic collapse, race wars, then is when it will hit the fan.

What exactly do you hope to gain from your revolution? What makes you confident that the system you are replacing the current one with will be any better?

Revolutions, like trees, must be judged by their fruit.

I can't see where any type of revolt ..(unless it is extremely well organized and targeted specifically against corruption) )..could make the situation better.

I see a lot of people talking about revolt..and to be honest..all I see is a lot of people getting killed..general chaos and confusion...and in the end..a reason for marshal law to be implicated.

There has to be a more rational way to direct change in the ways that it is needed...because I honestly believe a revolt would just end in a lot of sorrow and bloodshed.

Originally posted by BirdOfillOmen
I think people are ready now, but we've been brainwashed into submission. I know if I didn't have a mob of people behind me in my protests, I'd probably just be thrown in jail and mocked by the failure that is American news.

I would definitely join a resistance if opposition got on a level like during the Civil War.

edit on 9/1/2011 by BirdOfillOmen because: (no reason given)

They cut off benefits, welfare, section eight housing, things like that. Dude, I'm with you. I'll be thrown in jail quicker then you. If we lived in the same state, you and me would be making signs and screaming about the freedoms of Americans

Most of the people calling for revolt have never even killed an animal, let alone another human being. They've never done anything in wartime, and at best play airsoft on the weekends. They don't realize the stench of burned flesh, feces, and everything else that happens when bodies are ripped open by bullets.

They read the news and see, "15 insurgents killed." They romance it, and think that it was a firefight and that when the smoke cleared, everyone alive went on their way. They don't realize that the body count was done by hand, after the fact. They don't realize that those who did the counting are usually the same people who did the killing. They get to see the gray matter, blood, guts, and all the rest...up close and personal. Then, the "intel" part comes in. It's time to check pockets, wallets (if they the dead has one), etc. You come across photos of that dead man's kids, wife, mother, father. It hits you that 30 minutes earlier, this was someone's father, brother, husband, son. This person's life, however subtle, had meaning to somebody else.

Some guys get hard as hell, and can kick the hell out of the corpse. Others internalize, and deal with it later in life. Yet others break down there on the spot. Everyone handles it different. But, don't think you're Rambo because you've played Call of Duty, and now you're ready to handle combat. Revolution is bloody. It's dirty, and people really do die. You will most likely have to kill. Are you ready for that? Are you ready to hunt another man? Think hard, because once that line is crossed, you can NEVER take it back. You will, and I repeat WILL see their faces.

It's not a game. It's real, and by God, it's not something that should be taken lightly. That's my 2 cents. Take it for what it is. Flame me, hate me, I really don't care.

A violent revolt really isn't necessary. It only takes enough people in this country to realize the power they actually have to change it.

The elites of this world rule in fear, by fear. They are afraid of us. One massive show of unity by the people of this country, and they will have to change their underwear.

Imagine if they had an election and nobody voted. Imagine if the IRS received not a penny next April. Imagine...

shooooooot.....I'm ready to revolt right now. But the system is to strong to do it on my own (or many 1000's for that matter). The system would have to be in total disarray for me to take up arms and storm the white house. There are too many people sittin around glued to the next episode of jersey shore and american idol for there to be a revolution without their trance being broken.

They know that their hold on the general public is strong and they will do whatever it takes to keep that hold. Because the second that the general public's trance is broken ,by whatever means, there will be people like us to tell them whats actually been going on while they were "asleep".

Then........and only then will you will have a revolution in America.
But I hope that it never comes to that. We shouldnt have to fight one another for anything.
Its all non sense, *sigh*

Take away my first amendment rights, and then Im prepared to fight to the death

I agree with the other poster about basic needs. It would take a majority, or at least a large minority, of the population going without multiple basic needs like water, food, some form of clothing, some form of shelter, some form of income, etc. We are too accustomed to our comfortable lifestyle (myself included) to revolt, regardless of how pissed off we are at all of our politicians.

Alternatively, sheer numbers could potentially move a lot of people. I for one am not going to stop paying my taxes because there is a big personal risk I would go to jail, and I would rather deal with political corruption than spend 1/4 of my remaining life behind bars. You only get one life. However, if I knew 1 million other people would stop paying their taxes with me on such and such date, the risk of me personally being jailed is a lot less, so I might take my chances.

Some guys get hard as hell, and can kick the hell out of the corpse. Others internalize, and deal with it later in life. Yet others break down there on the spot. Everyone handles it different. But, don't think you're Rambo because you've played Call of Duty, and now you're ready to handle combat. Revolution is bloody. It's dirty, and people really do die. You will most likely have to kill. Are you ready for that? Are you ready to hunt another man? Think hard, because once that line is crossed, you can NEVER take it back. You will, and I repeat WILL see their faces. It's not a game. It's real, and by God, it's not something that should be taken lightly. That's my 2 cents. Take it for what it is. Flame me, hate me, I really don't care.

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Thank you for that dose of reality..that so few of us have any experience with. Sounds like you have experienced some very emotional moments doing the work you have done. I'm sorry that anybody has to go through this.

Killing and bloodshed is serious stuff..and should not be taken lightly.

I would like to think how many lives would have been saved if the right people were focused on rather than the number of people in front of them. This is not another way of saying it's not how many, it's who.
I think the real problem is that theses top rungs of the ladder consider themselves untouchable. I think it would be a matter of reminding them who they serve.

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Revolutions are not necessarily intended to be violent, in fact, as I see it most people that start/involved with revolutions initially start out non-violent. Until, of course the government takes a bull headed stance and commences with the violence themselves, in return the citizens throw the violence right back at the government.

If my memory of history serves me correctly, wasn't the Boston Tea Party a non violent revolt that succeeded in sending a powerful message to Britain?

Thank you for the replies! It seems that a lot are ready, but are waiting for someone else to take the first leap.
I agree that a revolution doesn't have to be violent. I was very happy to hear that the hunger strike that Anna Hazare went on to help put an end to corruption in India ended quickly and successfully. I think that a hunger -strike, even with 10 or 15 people, would put pressure on Washington. At the very least, hopefully, the MSM would report on it and maybe some of the public would show their support, or possibly even get involved!

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Yes, I believe people are ready. However, i don't think they're waiting on a leader, I think they're waiting for the match to strike.

The correct answer is 9 consecutive missed meals...then priorities get re-arranged and recognition of unwarranted authority falls to the bottom of the list as survival moves to the top.

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I rest my case. It will ALWAYS be violent. You may want it to be non-violent in your Utopian view of the world, but I guarantee you, just as the Sun will rise in the east tomorrow, it WILL get violent. When someone tries to seize power from someone else, there will always be a fight. My point is, are you really ready for that? When that time comes, and I hope it never does, there is no turning back. It's like getting in a barrel and going over Niagara Falls. You reach a point where you have to see it through to its conclusion, if you live to see it through.

It's easy to say "revolution" from ones couch, or laptop. It's a whole other thing when a bullet whizzes past your head, fatally hitting the man behind you. It's real then. Go time. No turning back. Understand? There are no breaks at 9am and 2:30pm. You don't go home at 5pm. No, it's 24x7, all day, every day. No football, no Family Guy. Nothing. It's kill, survive, and sleep if you ever get a chance. You'll just hope that if your time comes, you don't take one to the gut. You'll pray for a head shot. Something quick.

Wish for a peaceful revolution all you want, but it will not happen. The "peaceful revolution" we have available is the voting booth. Unfortunately, most people in this country who can vote, don't vote. And, to add insult to injury, those that do are clueless drones, intravenously fed by the mass media. Sites like ATS actually provide a service because it allows people to hear "the other side", and formulate opinions based off of new data.

I honestly hope that we never see a revolution in this country. Before anyone decides that revolution is something they want, I suggest they at least go kill a deer. Gut it, skin it, and process it. Once you gut it, cut the stomach open. Take a BIG sniff. Understand, that will be your world.

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Protecting the ecosystem. When Daryl Hannah has more patriotic gumption and spirit than I do I realize it is time to get up off my fat overfed underemployed butt and do something to save it for my nieces and nephews and their children. I don't think I have any control over what happens beyond that but I know I can affect that with what ever action I take right now. My in action will take a terrible toll on the planet.

For me...it was never about the money but I am armed and ready to fight.