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Originally posted by sir_slide
reply to post by nahsik
The genres you mentioned dont really have the same message though, I appreciate what you're saying totally but you are missing my point. I really do not judge music based on its commercial success though you must understand, i am just pointing out the mainstream nature of this music now and that it is a disgrace to have such music being played as much as it is, its message is usually so bloody negative and self serving its embarassing for me to listen to. You have people idolizing people like Kanye West because he does he wants and 'doesnt give a F***', well yeah, great, awesome, isn't he valuable! He can't even sing in tune. So I guess my point is that it is about what the substance of the music as a whole is and what it can offer people in a positive way, I can't think of many things.......
Originally posted by sir_slide
reply to post by sabbathcrazy
I dont know why we have to go down the illuminati path. I am mainly talking about the content, substance and by inference the merits of the genre as a whole. I am aware that the people at the top of the pyramid control the majority of the MS music that we hear, although I dont get what the beatles have to do with it. The label had absolutely nothing to do with their compositions/content, nothing whatsoever. They were lucky to even HAVE the beatles releasing records on their label, so no the beatles dont apply to this, they are just as good as an indie band in the sense that they had absolute creative freedom as time wore on, sure they had to dress it up a bit early on and be a bit nicer and more lovely, but at least what they were singing about cheered up an entire generation.
Originally posted by sir_slide
Another thing. The outfits these guys wear, it's one thing to wear a diamond necklace (totally ghetto apparently, or maybe symbolic of their shift FROM the ghetto) but it is quite another to walk around in some of the monstrocities these guys sport, I honestly don't know where some of these je** offs get off. [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/79d69b55c3d3.jpg[/atsimg]
(here is 'Gucci Mane')
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ba5e539d5698.jpg[/atsimg]
(this one cost $410,000, and to think that people in africa are starving, 'oh well, my power to ME!')
It is just ridiculous.
Originally posted by AskWhy11
reply to post by nahsik
I agree.
But, I never said it 'bothers me that people listen to garbage music". What bothers me is the worshiping of the context of the songs, and the 'rappers' themselves.
"Why do you like Lil Wane?"
"Oh, because he's a straight up gangster, and he's so hott."
^That's what I don't like. I despise Lil Wayne, yet I'll listen to "A Mili", "I Feel Like Dying", "6Foot, 7Foot" simply because I appreciate the production of the beat. I make beats myself. Those songs in a car bump HARD. And I love to freestyle, those songs are perfect for freestyling. Well, maybe not "I Feel Like Dying"...
Originally posted by Heartisblack
I really can't stand it either, I prefer acoustics, a little screamo at times, welsh and french folk music. Things like that and I am black, I can't understand what is the point of that music and it's usually demeaning lyrics.
“The Absolute majority of the 'music' is stolen. It is sampled/STOLEN from other people.”
“IF it is not it is usually unimaginative”
“They are just arrogant ignoramus's who spit fourth grades rhymes laced with excessive profanity, misogyny and poorly thought out ideas over other peoples compositions.”
“Excluding people like J5, dead prez, de la soul etc”
“these guys spit on the graves of people like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Curtis Mayfield, Sam Cooke and James Brown (the guy who's drum beats appear in about 30 per cent of rap music ever made)”
Originally posted by sir_slide
reply to post by GmoS719
Death metal musicians play instruments and actually write music, although it is not the taste of most people, it is still music and can be an important release for young people, and it is very rare to find people who listen to death metal to go out and do the things described in their songs. That may be the case with Norwegian Black Metal, but not death metal.
Country music is a lovely form of music, it has composition, spirit, soul and talks about the loves and lives lost in a romantic world of card games, southern dames and freight trains. It tells the forgetten stories of the down trodden and howls with the heart ache of the lonely wanderer, forever on the road to nowhere. It uplifts people and helps them consolidate their feelings and seek comfort in other peoples reflections on harder times and they can relate to it, find some consolation and resolution through the music. That's why I didnt mention those two genres,
only rap.