Gunman opens fire on office of Democratic lawmaker

Gunman opens fire on office of Democratic lawmaker

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The Houston Police Department and the Harris County Sheriff’s Department are investigating two gunshots that were fired through the window of U.S. Rep. Gene Green’s (D-TX) office Tuesday.

Houston Police told Fox 26 that they were not ruling out the possibility the shots could have come from a BB or pellet gun.

The Capitol Police were also investigating the matter, according to Politico.

Thanks to a law signed by Gov. Rick Perry, Texans with concealed-carry permits can bypass the metal detectors when carrying weapons into the Texas Capitol building as of Thursday.

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I personally am all for concealed carry permits provided the person asking for the CCP goes thru a battery of test to confirm his/her eligibility.

Any one that shows the inability to make rational decisions such as a DWI, domestic abuse, or psychological malfunctions should not have a gun in public.

This of course will not prevent the crazy people from getting a gun and doing what ever they want with it. The availability of registered and unregistered fire arms is astonishing.

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Apparently no one was injured.

Texans with concealed-carry permits can bypass the metal detectors when carrying weapons into the Texas Capitol

So a concealed-carry permits means you can bypass security and smuggle anything you want. WOW!!!
Does Homeland Security know this? How about all those drug smugglers?

reply to post by whaaa


Did you even read your own op?

Apparently there is a good chance the weapon in question was a bb or pellet gun...

This has nothing to do with concealed weapons, or even firearms for that matter. No bb or pellet gun uses combustion to propel the projectile, and both of these weapons could only be lethal in obscure situations. A point blank shot to the eye might do it, that's about it.

reply to post by EmVeeFF


"they were not ruling out the possibility the shots could have come from a BB or pellet gun."
That to me means a slight chance it was a bb gun or pellet gun. Not that it has been proven to be one.

reply to post by whaaa


I think as time goes on we are going to (unfortunately) see more of this. People are angry....their is a new presidential election brewing....and I think many people that are unstable and are gun owners....are going to go after the politicians. If I was a politician...I'd wear a helmet and a bullet proof suit...everywhere I went.

By the way - BB guns can do a lot of damage too.

Quite the sensationalist title, if I may say so.

I guess "Kid shoots out a window with BB gun, nobody injured, glaziers rejoice" would've been too cheery and pro-gun.

Houston Police told Fox 26 that they were not ruling out the possibility the shots could have come from a BB or pellet gun.

If it was from a gun they would know for certain because they could just pick the slug out of the wall. So are they saying they cant find the projectiles?

Maybe the title should be "small object breaks window" ?

reply to post by JBA2848


You obviously have no grasp on projectile weapons if you think that the two could even be remotely confused. The indicators are completely different and entirely distinguishable.

BB and Pellet guns make very little noise when fired.

Guns go bang.

and the points of impact? Bullets make large holes, BB and pellet guns make tiny dents in cars!

If police looked at the situation and can't tell, they should be fired.

how did a bb go through the window? How would you hear that? How do you discharge a weapon of that size even if only a pistol in a public setting? How would you get away?

Sorry but no deal.

reply to post by EmVeeFF


I guess you never heard of buck shot.
Google is your friend if you let it be.

reply to post by Old77


I don't get it...

Through glass?! it's a metal projectile traveling at (probably) 1200 feet per second. It will break glass and leave a nasty welt on your skin. MAYBE pierce you and have to be removed by tweezers, but the barrel would have to be AT MOST half a foot away from the target.

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Ut oh, it's the shotgun sniper!!

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I guess thats why they use it to hunt because it does not kill.
I guess thats the shot for catch and release wilderness hunting?

reply to post by whaaa

Sensationalist junk title.
Sensationalist junk article.

"Gunman opens fire?"
Anyone hear the shots?
Or are they just fabricating a story here...?
How do they know it wasn't a kid shooting at birds?

"Thanks to Gov. Perry that concealed weapons can be smuggled in?"
What kind of garbage is that?

Good god the title should read: "OMG! We have no clue how to tell the truth so we just make stuff up!"



Horrible article with a horrible journalist.
That was a waste of time.

No offense whaaa...
But that article is a little too anti-gun/pro-bulldung for me.

reply to post by JBA2848


Take a second and think about what you're saying.

Building.

Shooter armed with, buckshot?!?

"I'm going to pepper this building with buckshot, that will kill all these damn liberal bastards!"

Common sense, please.

If the man walked in the building with a shotgun and started blowing people away, then yes, that would do your title justice.

reply to post by caladonea
Not trying to be snippy here.

By the way - BB guns can do a lot of damage too.

They are not the choice of a battle weapon in any of the worlds armed forces that I know of, offhand. The reason for that is that they are the next thing to a joke as far as being a weapon is concerned. the best you would do is to take an eye out.
In contrast, if you shoot someone in the eye with one of the most underpowered of handgun rounds, the .25 ACP, at the same distance that the BB gun will take an eye out.... you probably will have a dead person to deal with, or at least a vegetable.

Granted, there are high-end pellet rifles that can be used for hunting, but they are not BB guns. They are expensive and not typically found at Walmart.

The Houston Police Department said damage to a window at Rep. Gene Green’s office appears to be criminal mischief, not gunshots.

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Update from yesterday on politico.

The Houston Chronicle reported that there were shots fired near the 17-year Democratic veteran’s office, but Victor Senties, a police department spokesman, said that nobody reported shots fired and an officer on the scene said it could be the product of a pellet gun or BB gun. There was just one window damaged, Senties said.

The Houston Chronicle misreported the event and then in turn ust have been picked up by Rawstory, which is dd for RS as they are a decent publication.

Originally posted by JBA2848
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I guess you never heard of buck shot.
Google is your friend if you let it be.

It really pays to know what you are talking about. Buckshot is much larger then bb's the smallest size buckshot is about 1/4 inch in size. The most common or well known buckshot is called double ought (00) and is about 3/8's with about 8 to a shell it will kill a man. All would be easily distinguishable from a BB.

Even if it were bird shot (closer to the size of BB's) it would be easily distinguishable from a couple bb shots and the shot pattern would be found. This could have been someone walking by with a spring loaded punch on the window or drive by with a BB or pellet gun.

Originally posted by whaaa

I personally am all for concealed carry permits provided the person asking for the CCP goes thru a battery of test to confirm his/her eligibility.

Any one that shows the inability to make rational decisions such as a DWI, domestic abuse, or psychological malfunctions should not have a gun in public.

This of course will not prevent the crazy people from getting a gun and doing what ever they want with it. The availability of registered and unregistered fire arms is astonishing.

Apparently no one was injured.

edit on 31-8-2011 by whaaa because: (no reason given)

Ridiculous! Such measures do nothing to prevent people from getting guns. All they are is a means of government revenue and control penalizing law abiding citizens while criminals ignore them.