New ATS Member Claiming To Have Important Warning/Information. You Be The Judge...

I like the Men in Black image,
its cool for sure. I love black
and white images anyway -
have lots on my computer
and I still photograph in
B & W. Would like to have
a screen shot.

reply to post by relyt


I hope you bet a lot



I'm on a netbook @ current, so I couldnt get the whole image in one screenshot. The only thing that you cant see at top of page is just the rest of the little ATS branded Men in Black picture.

reply to post by jazkaat


Thanks for that note about the dates and times.

It will be interesting to see if there's anything to the 'coincidences.'

The distances and timing sure seem to be more than a little tooooooo 'tidy' to attributed it purely to coincidence, imho.

This should post the image again below . . .

Nope, that's the badly cropped one. Let me see if I can get the recropped one to show up . . .

reply to post by westcoast


I hate to post and not really contribute anything...but since I find this very interesting, and since I can't subscribe to "HOAX" threads, I'm forced to post here to bookmark this. Sorry to interrupt. Carry on!

Anyone looked at the ATS Live Feed lately? There are widespread reports of meteors, lights, and UFOs in the sky over the US South West. First reports were of a giant meteor-like object streaking across the sky, now residents of SoCal (LA/Orange County) are reporting strange blue/green lights in the sky.

Earthquake lights? Prequel to the big shaker?

www.abovetopsecret.com...
There were other threads in the live feed, but they aren't showing now. Twitter was ablaze of the meteor sighting (still unconfirmed to be a meteor)

losangeles.cbslocal.com... tm_campaign=men-from-mars

(Earthquake lights are widely reported and documented by people, but the physics of the matter are still in dispute)
en.wikipedia.org...

An earthquake light is an unusual luminous aerial phenomenon that reportedly appears in the sky at or near areas of tectonic stress, seismic activity, or volcanic eruptions. Once commonly challenged, it was not until photographs were taken during the Matsushiro earthquake swarm in Nagano, Japan (which occurred from 1965 through 1967) that the seismology community acknowledged their occurrence.

Also a report of landslides/sinkholes in Virginia. Havent read this yet, but I'd be ready to write this off as post-Lee issues (ground saturation, etc)
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Shaping up to be another interesting day here in CONUS!

reply to post by DamaSan


I know...I have been following this with interest. It was my first though (ofcourse). I have also read about fire balls, etc.being associated with quakes.

I am wondering if perhaps the meteorite could be a harbinger. We have been wondering HOW 'they' could know exactly when the quake would occur. What if it correlates with another event? Such as a large meteorite strike?

Just thinking outloud....(have I mentioned that I hate coincidences?)

As far as our quake research goes, I think we are in a holding pattern waiting for more communiques from TM and waiting to see if LA shakes down today.

So let's take a mental break for an hour or two and try to figure out what the hell is going on with these weird light/UFO/meteor reports from SoCal. I have this strange feeling that it really could be earthquake lights... We need to enumerate and corroborate these reports of lights and figure out what they are seeing.

ETA: Found a pic...

WestCoast,a question about the three sisters.

I will post this as a reference.

In 2001 a satellite discovered that there was a deforming uplift 3 miles (4.8 km) west of the South Sister.[25] There was concern that the mountain was awakening. A map at the Lava Lands Visitor Center of the Newberry National Volcanic Monument south of Bend shows the extent of the uplift, centered a few miles west of the South Sister and reaching a maximum of 11 inches. In 2004 an earthquake swarm occurred with the epicenter in the area of uplift. The hundreds of small earthquakes subsided over several days. As of 2007 the uplift had slowed and concern had diminished though the area was still considered potentially active.[26] [edit]

Has there been any new activity there?

With all these volcanoes awakening across the globe,could this be a cause of concern?

Originally posted by westcoast
reply to post by DamaSan

 

I know...I have been following this with interest. It was my first though (ofcourse). I have also read about fire balls, etc.being associated with quakes.

I am wondering if perhaps the meteorite could be a harbinger. We have been wondering HOW 'they' could know exactly when the quake would occur. What if it correlates with another event? Such as a large meteorite strike?

Just thinking outloud....(have I mentioned that I hate coincidences?)

Well, YU55 is heading our way in fact if you type in November 9, 2011 it seems to make impact but it still away from the earth but not by much. If something were to change the earths axis or another body changing the gravitational pull it just might hit.... ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by DamaSan
As far as our quake research goes, I think we are in a holding pattern waiting for more communiques from TM and waiting to see if LA shakes down today.

So let's take a mental break for an hour or two and try to figure out what the hell is going on with these weird light/UFO/meteor reports from SoCal. I have this strange feeling that it really could be earthquake lights... We need to enumerate and corroborate these reports of lights and figure out what they are seeing.

What? Do you have a link?

OK, so I had the same thoughts. I saw a pic of the lights, I don't think its any kind of meteor. I was wondering if it could possibly have something to do with possible EQ?

There is so much going on.

I need to get some sleep

Of course things start jumping right when I am about to sign off and go to bed.

I am sure I will be up and down tonight.

So many thoughts going through my mind. So many reports of strange happenings.

Stay safe and alert!

Alrighty then, looking at the GESS report, I find the following in the Executive Summary:

The nearterm prospect of predicting a certain magnitude earthquake on a specific fault, occurring on a particular day or week, is expected to remain out of reach. However, dynamic hazard assessments of individual fault systems at time scales of months appear to be feasible if frequent, high-precision deformation measurements are available.

and

Although there are diverse geophysical phenomena — electromagnetic and thermal emissions in particular — that appear to bear some relationship to the earthquake c ycle, only surface deformation and seismicity can be directly related to it.

Which put me in mind of this post, which TM indicates is the closest anyone's come:

Originally posted by zworld

Originally posted by tmiddlebrook36
More info. This is an intercept of an email:

t, I remain skeptical. But if there is new data and studies out there discussing the reasons for this increased awareness of a potential big one, please share this with us. Im sure you could U2U someone on this thread that would post this data for us and you.

But the bottom line is, the plates are in motion and heating up. Big ones.....probably everywhere soon as far as I can tell. In fact they already are happening. And all that released pressure is going somewhere else. The tohoku EQs in Japan sent a massive chunk of energy our way via the lithosphere. Both the Cascadia subduction zone (CSZ) and the New Madrid Fault (NMF) have been absorbing energy for 200 to 300 years without really moving. And move they must. Its the law of earth physics.

snip

emphasis mine to indicate which particular spot related
more:

To advance towards a reliable predictive capability requires that deformation must be resolved at an absolute accuracy of approximately 1 mm/yr over the course of a decade

Keep in mind that this report was published in 2003, meaning that it had probably been in the works for a fair amount of time prior.

In the future, the coupling of complex numerical models and orders of magnitude increase in observing power promises to lead to accurate, targeted, shortterm earthquake forecasting

Are we currently in the future suggested by this report?

This can be tempered by the following statement:

Three decades ago, earthquake prediction was thought to be an achievable goal. Such optimism has all but vanished in the face of current understanding of the complexity of the physics of earthquake fault systems.

I think this is a key question raised in the report:

6. Are there precursory phenomena (potential field, electromagnetic effects, or thermal field changes) preceding earthquakes that could be resolved from space?

This next section gave me chills:

There is a debate as to whether the crust is in a constant state of self-organized criticality in seismic zones, or whether the crust approaches and retreats from that state in a cyclic pattern; the answer has profound implications for the predictability of earthquakes

Here they go on again about what they expect to develop:

While predicting the time, location, and size of a particular earthquake will remain elusive, much higher fidelity earthquake forecasts appear within reach

How far outside their reach was it when this report was compiled? How far does it remain now?

This next section struck me as particularly important:

The worst damage occurs in regions of directed seismic energy, and liquefaction (the sudden liquification of permeable sedimentary layers) often amplifies the damage. Very precise surface deformation measurements will help to identify aquifer discharge and recharge, and can provide information on the saturation of vulnerable subsurface sedimentary layers (Tobita et al., 2002). This knowledge can be folded into the earthquake hazard assessments to produce a localized, dynamic measure of seismic risk

WC, here's more corroboration for "nothing exists within a vacuum:"

Further complicating our understanding of earthquakes is that they do not occur in isolation. Earthquakes located nearby in space and time induce additional forces into a given fault system, either through the static stress changes induced coseismically, or through temporally evolving postseismic stress changes.

emphasis mine
Important info here:

Detecting signals precursory to large earthquakes has been one of the most sought after and debated aspects of earthquake physics. Observations of precursory signals have been sporadic and often without a clear link to the subsequent earthquake. In the cases where the connection is clear, the measurements have generally been point location measurements, sometimes requiring measurement sensitivities that are not possible with satellite

more to follow

reply to post by kwell

Look at the post I made just previous to the one you quoted.

reply to post by DamaSan


That is a bolide.

Probably not related to seismic activity/

reply to post by jadedANDcynical

Ok, I'll buy that. The Wikipedia picture of a Bolide looks nearly identical to the image I linked. Thanks for this.

So now my question is: Was this Bolide Meteor the basis of ALL of the lights-in-the-sky reports, or are there other lights that people are seeing?


Jaded, I'm still marinating on your above mega-post. Good stuff

Just thought i'd link to a page on the LA Quake thread here

the user TMG333 posted this not long ago

I live right on top of the San Andreas in southern Cali.. maybe it's nothing but I've just out of nowhere gotten this sudden intense headache and a bit of nausea with it. May be related to the mexican food I had for dinner but it doesn't usually give me headaches like this. Just don't really feel right and I know some people report major headaches before earthquakes, hope it's not a sign of anything to come personally but just thought I'd mention. Joints are feeling a little bit tense as well, I don't know what's going on. I want to go lay down but now it's got me worried to have this all hit me out of nowhere.

reply to post by DamaSan


Thanks. There are a lot of witnesses to the meteor but I haven't been able to find any about the lights..... www.weatherwatch.co.nz...

Maybe ATS is just busy tonight...

But the New Threads section of the Live Feed seems to have suddenly flooded with new threads, pushing out all of the "Lights in the Sky" threads. Co-winky-dink? Had to point that out...


reply to post by kwell

Here's a link, sort of... not many other accounts of the "lights". Still trying to determine if the lights were just sightings of the meteor, or not.
Southland Residents Report Seeing Strange Lights In The Night Sky

reply to post by jadedANDcynical


Well, you have deginately done better than me at wading through all of that.

I am especially interested in you last quote. Keeping in mind the age of this paper, I think that there has been a lot learned about large quakes in the past year or two. Especially from the Japan quake....perhaps something that is being applied real-time.

Originally posted by Wookiep
reply to post by westcoast

 

I hate to post and not really contribute anything...but since I find this very interesting, and since I can't subscribe to "HOAX" threads, I'm forced to post here to bookmark this. Sorry to interrupt. Carry on!

edit on 14-9-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)

Same here.

BTW, can points be deducted for posting a one-liner, or OT in a HOAX thread?