Masonic and Illuminati symbols

reply to post by ForkandSpoon


I have never heard that one before. You can defintately diminish the non-members to members of any society on this forum.

reply to post by KSigMason


Attention seekers or tactical ignoring. They in-vent these ideas into thoughts then try to manifest them into realities that suit them best. This is one form of paranoia. I've deleted the rest of this comment.

reply to post by hmdphantom

St Peter's square with obelisk.
In the middle of the Vatican's St Peter's square an obelisk has been placed. Seen from above the square represents a dot in a circle, thus doubling the fertility symbolism while the segmented circle also refers to the zodiac. Never mind that astrology is outlawed by the Catholic church... The obelisk was originally brought to Rome by Caligula in the 1st century AD, but it was Pope Sixtus V who had it resurrected in this particularly symbolic way in the 16th century.

Your source

I think the Masonic connection to obelisks was pretty well debunked in This thread. I love how they even go so far as to say that the Church outlawed astrology when it did no such thing.

High noon: How the sun and moon guided prayer times and liturgy

Hidden among the paving stones of St. Peter's Square there is a simple clock and calendar. All you need is a sunny day.

The 83-foot stone obelisk in the middle of the square acts as a sundial that can accurately indicate midday and the two solstices thanks to a granite meridian and marble markers embedded in the square.

Pope Benedict XVI proudly pointed out the hidden timepiece during an Angelus address he gave on the winter solstice a few years ago.

"The great obelisk casts its shadow in a line that runs along the paving stones toward the fountain beneath this window and in these days, the shadow is at its longest of the year," he told pilgrims from the window of his library.

In fact, at noon on Dec. 21, the obelisk's shadow falls on the marble disk furthest from the obelisk's base, while at noon on June 21 -- the summer solstice -- the tip of the shadow will fall just a few yards from the obelisk. In between are five other disks marking when the sun enters into which sign of the zodiac.


A long, thin granite strip running from the obelisk toward the pope's window and through one of the fountains acts as the meridian: a line that indicates when the sun has reached true or solar noon and is at its highest point in the sky.

The pope, in his solstice soliloquy, reminded people that the church has always been keenly interested in astronomy to help guide and establish fundamental liturgical days and the times of prayer such as the Angelus, which is recited in the morning, at noon and in the evening. While sunrise and sunset are easy to figure out, sundials could accurately tell midday, he said.

Catholic News

In fact, there are some who believe that the Zodiac actually tells the story of the Gospel if one knows how to read it properly.

reply to post by hmdphantom


Here's one masonic symbol I dug up on the net a few days ago:




The "eye" of the masonic pyramid represents the place where the president of the U.S.A. is inaugurated on Jan 20 after election victory.

It was first used Jan 20 1981 during Ronald Reagan's innauguration.

I find that America has gone done the road to perdition and total collapse since Reagan was president.

Coincidence?

Hardly

the .png file wont show on ATS so you can find it here also:

washingtondecoded.net...

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
The "eye" of the masonic pyramid represents the place where the president of the U.S.A. is inaugurated on Jan 20 after election victory.

So now the Presidential Inauguration is Masonic because someone drew some pictures over the Capitol Building?

I find that America has gone done the road to perdition and total collapse since Reagan was president.

Reagan in his current state (dead) is still a better President than Obama in his current state (brain dead).

Wow I found this source today....it has it all.... Source

The three great symbols of masonry are; The Bible, the Compass, and the Square. The compass and the square are tools used in layout and construction.

See Source for much more.

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I wouldn't necessarily trust a website quoting the Taxil hoax or the Catholic Encyclopedia as being a particularly well-informed or balanced source of information about Freemasonry...

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
The "eye" of the masonic pyramid represents the place where the president of the U.S.A. is inaugurated on Jan 20 after election victory.

So now the Presidential Inauguration is Masonic because someone drew some pictures over the Capitol

It's common knowledge that Washington D.C. was carefully designed by freemasons such as president George Washington.

An inverted cross can be drawn between the Capitol, Lincoln Memorial, White House and Jefferson Memorial. The Washington Monument is at the intersection of the cross.

Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson were all 33 * Freemasons.

Impossible that this is a coincidence...it is planned urban design...freemasonic design that is.

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson were all 33 * Freemasons.

Well, you managed to botch that one up.

Washington was a Freemason. He was not a 33° Freemason, because there was no Scottish Rite in America during his lifetime.

Lincoln would have liked to become a Mason, but never did. He'd planned on joining after he left the office of President.

There is no credible evidence that Thomas Jefferson ever became an Mason, though many of his friends were.

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
Impossible that this is a coincidence...it is planned urban design...freemasonic design that is.

Indeed. IMPOSSIBLE!

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Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
It's common knowledge that Washington D.C. was carefully designed by freemasons such as president George Washington.

Except George Washington only appointed the designers. Pierre L'Enfant was not a Mason and he was the original designer pulling the grid system from Thomas Jefferson (not a Mason). L'Enfant was fired though and a surveyor and his assistant recreated the designs; neither Andrew Ellicot or Ben Bannaker were Masons.

Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson were all 33° Masons

Except the 33 degrees of the Scottish Rite didn't exist during Revolutionary times. Lincoln only petitioned, but never joined. There is no evidence Jefferson was ever a Mason although I wish he was. He was a wise man.

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
An inverted cross can be drawn between the Capitol, Lincoln Memorial, White House and Jefferson Memorial. The Washington Monument is at the intersection of the cross.

Who cares? If you view it from the other perspective it is facing the right direction.

I will not correct your other mstakes as they have already been addressed.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Who cares? If you view it from the other perspective it is facing the right direction.

Exactly!

From the perspective of the politican the cross is inverted representing the Luciferian/Satanic US government.

From the perspective of the US citizen the cross appears upright, holy, noble and true!

Truly a diabolical conspiracy.

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Lincoln was a confirmed Rosicrucian and Freemason.

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Lincoln was a confirmed Rosicrucian and Freemason.

I'm sorry but you are wrong about Lincoln he was not a Freemason he had petitioned, and then withdrew his application.

Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon A.F. & A. M.

Abraham Lincoln was not a freemason. He applied for membership in Tyrian Lodge, Springfield, Ill., shortly after his nomination for the presidency in 1860 but withdrew the application because he felt that his applying for membership at that time might be construed as a political ruse to obtain votes. He advised the lodge that he would resubmit his application again when he returned from the presidency.

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On the death of the president, Tyrian Lodge adopted, on April 17, 1865, a resolution to say "that the decision of President Lincoln to postpone his application for the honours of Freemasonry, lest his motives be misconstrued, is the highest degree honourable to his memory."

mastermason.com...

US Presidents That where also Freemasons

George Washington
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
James Polk
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
James Garfield
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
Howard Taft
Warren Harding
Franklin Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Gerald Ford

reply to post by GrassyKnoll

Then what Lodge did he join and when? Who confirms your suspicion?

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
From the perspective of the politican the cross is inverted representing the Luciferian/Satanic US government.

From the perspective of the US citizen the cross appears upright, holy, noble and true!

Well than most churches are Luciferian/Satanic as from the Priest's/Reverend's point of view he is looking down the axis of an inverted crucifix. See how silly this can become?

Truly a diabolical conspiracy.

More like pointless.

Originally posted by JoshNorton
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[sarcasm]Leave it to those evil Masons to try to sneak some religion into our capitol when we know DAMN WELL the first amendment forbids any expression of religion in the public square.

They should all be taken out and shot for their crimes agains religious freedom! [/sarcasm]

www.youtube.com...

link to a well researched documentary movie on America's freemasonic infiltration

Here is a link to an article with just a few symbols common in the media:

jesusdied4us.wordpress.com...

and a site that has EXCELLENT articles on freemasonic symbolism in America:

Vigilantcitizen.com

And an image i created on photobucket: