Disturbing Commercial

Originally posted by eleven44
It's not creepy as in threatening, it is creepy in a sense of it is very telling of how people think/how people want people to think.
Don't worry about who is taking your picture.
Don't worry about what part of you is online.
Don't worry about anything.

If you don't see what could be somewhat creepy about this, don't worry, just go back to sleep.

edit on 24-8-2011 by eleven44 because: better arrangment of words

yes totally, thats why this one caught my eye more than the usual ones... the message is painfully obvious.
guy is "asleep" and doing all this embarrassing stuff, and everything he does is being recorded to a database by people he trusts. and when he wakes up a bit to notice whats going on his "friends" lie to him and stab him in the back and tell him to "go back to sleep".. LOL.. its crazy.

reply to post by BohemianBrim


It does promote the invasion of privacy rights..makes a joke out of it. I mean,who's the biggest consumer of FB and mobile devices? Kids/young adults. So,get this nifty cheap phone and spy on people and share it with everyone even faster!! YAY!

Then,there's the creepy realization that kids/young adults appear innocuous or seem like nothing more than background noise for the most part,so,agencies could/would/probably already use this ability for cover for surveillance etc..Hang around looking like a college kid and just snap and send wherever.

Yes. I find it creepy.

There's nothing creepy about this, I mean seriously dude, not in the least.

reply to post by BohemianBrim


In the spirit of your avatar.....

It is wiser to find out than suppose.

With that in mind, it would humor you to know that I despise Facebook and all that it is about. I confess I have an account, but only so that my wife can she's married! How kind of you to assume I am a Facebook junkie anyway!

Next time, ask for a conversation about the world's woes. Posting a vid and saying it's creepy on a forum where most of us don't pay attention to that crap anymore is not asking to talk about how the world is all gone to crap.

Edit to add: If you really want to look at all the things wrong with that commercial pertaining to "propaganda", you would find more than just the Facebook button.....but you figure it out.

damn... replied to the wrong thread.

reply to post by Lysergic


HAhahaha dude.....this isnt Bonchos thread with the baseball bad dude that batters the 6 fellas and drives off, damn...how you manage to post in the wrong thread??

P.s. I urge people to watch the vid its HILARIOUS.

Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
reply to post by Lysergic

 

HAhahaha dude.....this isnt Bonchos thread with the baseball bad dude that batters the 6 fellas and drives off, damn...how you manage to post in the wrong thread??

P.s. I urge people to watch the vid its HILARIOUS.

haha my bad

I'd still run them over

Originally posted by BohemianBrim

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by BohemianBrim

 

Outlooks on life has nothing to do with it. If you can't explain what's so creepy about it then why start this thread?

lol, seriously? read my original post again. i had hoped everyone would be able to figure it out on their own. but i think i know whats got you confused, you probably use facebook a lot dont you? if so, then i can understand how you may have allowed yourself to be led to believe that everything is about you, but this is an illogical way of thinking.

this thread is not about your understanding, it is about mine. i wanted to know if other people thought it was creepy, to make sure i wasnt alone and to maybe start a discussion about how things have become in this world.
im not here to teach you anything. i dont know a damn thing, i only have my own perspective, and i dont feel like expressing every little detail about it to everyone on the planet... thats part of why i DONT have a facebook account.

I found it creepy when I first saw the commercial on TV.
Actually thought about starting a thread about it myself lol.. It is really a small world..
I do not want people taking pictures of me unwanted period.. THATS THE CREEP FACTOR
It was different in the days when you had to get the picture developed and it would not be online.
I thought about it, that thing only saves you 1 min. If you have a droid
or iphone all you have to do is stayed logged into your account and upload the picture
from the facebook ap...

It's all conditioning so you don't care about giving up your rights. You'll probably be the first eliminated in the future dystopian society OP.

Originally posted by Enlightenme1111
It's all conditioning so you don't care about giving up your rights. You'll probably be the first eliminated in the future dystopian society OP.

lol

honestly even though it bothers me, it doesnt really bother me(what?)

its creepy the same way a roller coaster is scary.

life is nothing but amusement unless you get too wrapped up in it.. like an old lady watching a soap opera.

forget privacy, id run down the street naked if i was allowed to.

i think im just noticing the change. makes me feel old.

Originally posted by BohemianBrim
i think im just noticing the change. makes me feel old.

edit on 24-8-2011 by BohemianBrim because: to too two tutu?

Welcome to...the real world.

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ive never lived in anything else, i just get wrapped up in the drama sometimes... im the old lady and reality is my soap opera. haha.

its not like i have much else to do.

im afraid to try anything "different" again.. im not very good at defending myself from the "attack"...

things are revealed when they are revealed.. patience is a virtue.. blah blah blah.

somthing ells i noticed about this creepy advert and its kinda under the radar subliminal

the people whith the phone is elitist/ goverment
and the guy sleeping is the common man, the sheeple if you will .. Asleep and then just when the man starts to "awaken" his overlords or rulers say " its nothing, go back to sleep!" as thay laugh and he foolishly goes back sleep its a metaphor for america and dismal one at that
~jplays

reply to post by BohemianBrim


to be honest OP when i saw this ad i just shook my head in disapointment.
Im aculy kinda suprised zsome regular poster see nothibh wrong whith this or creepy for that matter.... Hell thay are tell us all to go back to sleep.... And the whole makeing facebook a part of the phone is wild efing wild i tell you
wake up ats wake up
reject your programing and WAKE UP!

reply to post by BohemianBrim

I think that the creepiness is intuited by some and not others based on a psychological undercurrent and how much we each pick up on such things; it has nothing to do with intellegence and everything to do with perception, just as the OP said. Whether or not one perception is more valid, authentic or useless than any other given today's other concerns is irrelevant because you usually can't control your perception; it's innate, usually subconscious and formed by the culmination of your own life experiences. I get some of what the OP is picking up on and I too find it a bit creepy because, like most ads, it's subliminally insidious. I don't use FB either, probably for the same reason as many of you, but again, it's personal choice and not a criticism of anyone else.

OK, so I'm sure to get A LOT of backlash for this by those who will surely say "OMG, you're looking into this waaay to much" but just hear me out, think it through and don't forget that EVERYTHING in life is perception and the main goal of advertisements is to appeal to our desires on a subconscious level. That's why this will appear to some as nothing more than a group of innocent young adults playing a practical joke on a friend, and to some it will seem "creepier" than that. Ultimately, taking control of our own subconscious is what will let us prevail against those with hidden nasty motives. So here goes my psuedopsychological breakdown of this commercial (total layperson but one known for being fairly intuitive to such undercurrents):

The guy is first shown sleeping in a cuddled up (aka fetal) position; sleeping "like a baby" as if he doesn't have a care in the world and is totally safe and happy - this message is conveyed by his first laugh. As soon as this happens, the female, with a fiendish or cackling kind of laugher that lasts throughout the entire ad, captures his picture, which many cultures equate to capturing one's soul (this time without his conscious knowledge) or which others equate to the whole TPTB vs average Joe citizen battle, and his solid essence turning into a holographic-type blue hits the message home that he is somehow being drained or changed. So it can be equated to having his soul (or individualism) secretly and silently drained. You keep hearing her somewhat evil sounding laughter (as a female, I find this more annoying than creepy but it's intended to push a button) and just at the peak of "the drain" the guy throws his head back, somewhat reminiscent of er....extreme pleasure (you can figure out that euphemism for yourself). So the subliminal brainwash-like intended message is that having your soul or individualism drained is good and will make you feel euphoric (using a PC description here) - don't you want to be the recipient of such utter euphoria??? He then startles himself awake and feels like something has been taken from him (notice how he opens his jacket and checks himself as if making sure he's all there or sensing that something has been taken from him). She's looking at her little screen (viewable only to her) with this fiendish and sneaky look on her face and he momentarily laughs WITH her (as if thinking he knows or wanting to feel like he knows - but not REALLY knowing - what she's cackling about) but soon becomes suspicious of her true intentions. Then, with the flick of a finger she commits the ultimate act of big brotherdom while the dude next to her shows his role as enforcer by saying in an authoritative voice, "go back to sleep man". Also, toward the end when they're showing a static picture of the phone's screen with the pic of him asleep with his head thrown back, check out the head of the lady behind him - looks like a brain, no? This ties into the next comments of the narrator who says that "the button glows when there's a photo, video or something else worth sharing". This assigns the button some type of etheral higher intellegence by saying "it knows" when something you've captured SHOULD be shared and insinuates that you, too, can have the power of this higher intellegence through ownership. More deeply, it hones in on the sheeple's fear or desire to please this higher intellegence (aka TPTB) in the role of "good citizen" (any George Orwell fans out there will know what I'm talking about), There's a whole host of psychological associations here. The message they don't want any of us to glean from all of this is that it's up to someone or something else, and not you, to decide what privacy or individualism you're allowed to own and that's where the creepy feeling eminates from. I could probably find many more subliminals but that's my first blush interpretation.

OK, so before the backlash starts, just watch it again with those thoughts in mind to see if you now see any of these things. Most advertisements are made to appeal to our base carnal desires (whether it's the desire for power, the need to be in ultimate control or the desire to align ourselves with the ultimate control and curry good favor from such) or, quite simply, our fears. The fact that it's his contemporaries and not a younger person doing this to him shows that there's a lot more to this than meets the eye (or the conscious eye, I should say).

That's it. I'm prepared for the comments but can't promise I'll be awake long enough to respond tonight...

Timidgal

I believe with everyone who says this is creepy. I didn't see anyone give this excuse for why it is creepy, so I will do it. The sleeping man woke up, and the other guy addressed him as hey man. I'm going to assume he isn't a friend. His sleeping in an airport chair is now all over facebook where friends, bosses, and enemies can potentially view it.

Friends could harass you about it if they were jerks. If those were friends of his taking his picture, then it is also telling us it is ok to have jerks for friends who will deceive you, make you look like an idiot, and etc. Not good. Going back to the man not being a friend.

Say a potential boss has his HR regularly do internet searches on potential employees, and someone in the HR comes across that photo. What does it project about the man? That he is lazy, and there is something wrong if he needs to take a nap in the middle of the day. What if a part of that man's job was traveling? His boss saw the photo of him sleeping in the airport? Not good.

There are people who are in hiding for various reasons from witness protection programs to hiding from a vindictive spouse. Your face is not all over face book. Makes it a little easier to find you. Oh, yes this would be helpful to police if they were crooks.

Having pictures of yourself can have adverse affects. One incident I remember was with a college girl. Her friends took a picture of her drinking out of a big red plastic cup at a party. The college saw the picture on facebook, and claimed that the type of cup she was drinking from was normally used to hold beer. Therefore they expelled her due to underage drinking.

Many cool interpretations throughout the thread. Thanks for starting it BohemianBrimm - I think it deserves much more credit than originally given. IMHO, different perceptions are what will utlimately break TPTB's intent to create a robot mentality and regardless of how different our separate perceptions might be, it's a cool thing to have these differences and should inspire hope.

Timidgal

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lol and i thought my "breakdown" of this ad was fancy
you took it a step further and your assesment of this ad is well flat out impresive. Very observent and i dont really see why you would get back lash for an inteligent well put together replie
oh and i love your avatar its so.... Sweet

ok im done kissing but for the night great OP