New Creepy 10/28/11 Website Mystery

not to me, its the same picture repeated til its' dark.

but, the clock on the site is flashing faster. is it cuz of the meteor that was seen tonite, and now 6.0 earthquakes happened, within a few minutes of each other.

wth ? heh

Originally posted by mmirror
Just some thoughts on the Oct 28 website:

This is the concept and most likely comes down to perception and mind. For open keeps saying that all are too focused on 'matter' meaning the 3d physical stuff instead of the concepts pertaining to mind and thought. The core of who we are.

Do you think that the mind an thought is the core of who you are? Do you identify yourself with the mind?

Originally posted by mmirror
Just some thoughts on the Oct 28 website:

Contemplating these empty spaces on the website:

1234)* --- *(4321

When i'm scared and you're close I feel _. It's hard to feel _ nowadays. Can you find where to be _ ? Wait there, and you'll be _ .[....]

What if these spaces will never be filled? Or that they are meant to have multiple meanings, depending on the viewer. Now if Open were to fill these things in then he would be determining the outcome of thought of how to see reality...yet is it not 'all' thoughts incorporated that determine our reality?

He also wrote this behind the front page:

Your perception is what holds you back. This knowledge cannot be found from investigation of the material. You have GOT to allow a new way of thinking, even if briefly to understand any of it. The manuals are key here, without them, you're stuck in thought. More soon !

He has also here placed the word GOT in bold for it is stating something about the concept to which he is getting accross. In my opinion, no ONE has GOT to do anything...lol. So this is showing that in knowing that we are free thinking, we can determine our reality through 'Choice'. Therefore the spaces would be anything we desired...we can fill in the spaces ourselves. Each with a different perspective of life.


This is the concept I had originally thought Open might be wanting for us to see:

1234)* ONE *(4321

1234 = 10
4321 = 10

1010 takes you to the global consciousness page.
The mirror of 10 is 01...hence the concept of looking in the mirror...when you look in the mirror you see ONE.

You are the ONE who is love, safe, free, seen?

When i'm scared and you're close I feel SAFE. It's hard to feel LOVE nowadays. Can you find where to be FREE ? Wait there, and you'll be SEEN .[OPEN]

*******************************************************
However I can only 'presume' that is how Open might see it....and it would not be how I would want to answer it. I would write it this way:

When i'm scared and you're close I feel SAFE (in love). It's hard to feel FREE nowadays (without love). Can you find where to be OPEN (to love)? Wait there, and you'll be SEEN (through love). [LOVE]

The answer to all for me is LOVE...so even though I would view opens message, I would still on the other hand feel a different way than what the message might be portraying.

This is the concept and most likely comes down to perception and mind. For open keeps saying that all are too focused on 'matter' meaning the 3d physical stuff instead of the concepts pertaining to mind and thought. The core of who we are.

edit on 15-9-2011 by mmirror because: (no reason given)

Only have a few mins but just wanted to say that really like your take here.
I've been thinking about that riddle over past few days and came coming to the same idea that everyone might relate to it differently.
I get a meaning personal to me from: When i'm scared and you're close I feel SAFE. It's hard to feel FREE nowadays. Can you find where to be LOVE ? Wait there, and you'll be SEEN

but equally feel home with: When i'm scared and you're close I feel. It's hard to feel nowadays. Can you find where to be? Wait there, and you'll be.

Also the first i is lower case. So I take that as little me (human) in conversation with big me (multidimensional me) !!!

Anyone think fpiny was a play on epiphany? I referred to that in an earlier post but just wanted to flag again to see if anyone else could get that.

no.

but, the mind will adjust to who we are depending on what situation we are in.

reply to post by Fraam


I think it is the core of all of who 'we' are...I see the mind as many things, 0/core/mind/force/balance/mirror. It is the thing that motivates our reality. The center of all. It relates also to zero point energy, black hole, wormhole, and anything else you want to place on it. Mind is what allows us to perceive our reality. As force it is the center of who we are. It motivates our reality. You must first think before you act. Thought preceeds action. So Mind preceeds that of Matter. Yet both are intrinsic to our creation. Mind is the core that we see from where all is determined, and matter is the interactive device to which we partake in creation.

An interesting way to look at it if you were relating it to the bible...God said that you could eat from the tree of life within the garden...(The tree of life is thus the core of our reasoning, tree of knowledge, Mind.) Yet he warned against eating from the tree of good and evil (duality). If you would eat from the tree of good and evil you would therefore cause chaos on your mind, difference, war...for the mind sees non-dual, yet when we feel we are only of 'matter', we see in duality, therefore all is black and white. The 'true' way to view reality is non-dual, for the mind is not what determines duality, but the matter to which it views through.

reply to post by mmirror

Originally posted by sheba2011

Originally posted by buddhatrance

Great food for thought!

I agree about the expectation being the determining factor for the outcome of the box.
If the question underlies an expectation, then only not posing the question will not influence the outcome.

Now I am facing a paradox. On one hand, not asking the question at all, will take me to the Truth. On the other hand, without asking the question in the first place, I cannot be aware of the Truth. Or can I?

For example, it is the fundamental question of humanity "Who am I?", that makes the individual self-aware. Or, the other way around... a self-aware being cannot help but ask that question. Without posing that question, I won't be looking for Truth. Some questions must be asked. I guess the trick is in having no expectations as to what will unfold as a consequence of the question.

In the case of the cat, asking "Will the cat be alive", contains the answer within the question, and there is the flaw. Asking "What will happen when I open the box?" will leave all possibilities open. Then we can still have access to the Truth.

Without asking questions, Truth can be there, but there would be no awareness of it on our part.

You are a bright spark.

I've been down your path already. I've struggled with this exact same paradox. I've ridden Plato's chariots up beyond the horizon to the surface of the marble. You are on a good path; stay on it; you need to go down this path before reaching the choice I mentioned in option #2.

You absolutely must see the truth in all its infinite glory (ugliness and all) before you make the choice like Neo to come back down into the matrix again. Some earlier were giving veiled and not so veiled warnings and they were absolutely appropriate to give those warnings, but with you I sense very much so that you will see the Truth and will come back down to play on the winning side of the chess game. But every good player needs to first learn how to drive their chariot properly -- which I have every confidence you will quickly master., if you make that choice. Which you do not have to make.

Thank you, Sheba. As always, I appreciate your words. You trigger within me something familiar.
I have made the choice.

Last night (my time), I didn't mention option 2, which I also agree with, because then I was facing the other paradox (!!!), and didn't want to make it too long. Here is my input, maybe you can shed some light:

Your snippet, as a guideline:

2) Your second option is to deliberately focus your intension on what you would like to see. This is what we mean by embracing love and not fear. Those who think aliens are arriving any day now, or that Elenin will careen into the planet, or that the Illuminatis are plotting to take over the world... that's what they are going to get. 100 monkeys with highly focused intension can derail those particular trains and we can instead have the dawning of a new age of Aquarius (can you hear that song in your head now?).

As always there are two options. It's like Neo in the matrix. He took the pill and he was taking option 1 above -- he saw what was really real. But then he went back into the matrix, taking option 2, to free all the other prisoners.

I don't waste a lot of time on option #1. It's cool and all that, I'm not knocking it. But I've come back down into the matrix on purpose.

I completely agree on deliberately focusing on what one would like to see. This way, one transcends the question, and works on molding the results/answer. This leads me to paradox #2: individual vs collective.

On one hand you will get what you expect (when you open the box). One observer can influence his experience. On the other hand we have the 100 monkeys, who can derail the trains on a bigger scale. Is it possible that because of the monkeys, I won't be seeing the aliens attacking? What happened to my point of observation and expectation? (just an example, I am singing the song)

So, the 100 monkeys are not working at the level of the outcome (derailing the train for others), but at the level of the expectation (influencing more people to reach the same expectation). Those who do not catch up with the monkeys, will still individually experience what they expect (but where and in which time line will the aliens attack?).

The challenge for the monkeys it to have more monkeys expect the better outcome, so that more (but not all) will experience it. Or once the wave is in motion, it will sweep away the point of observation of the individual? In a way, if we are each single cells/point of consciousness in the mega-brain, the more cohesive the neurons, the more coherent the thought...

While option 1 revolves around "Who am I?", option 2 is "What am I?", but it still works within the construct of the Matrix.

More about Neo later.

Just signed up to show you this page, as found on another website:

adundas.noemata.net...

It's a 2005 page. Looks like a bunch of garbage, but if you use the search function you can discover a lot of 3.14 references and the same quotes of the oct28 site.

They have something in common, I think.

reply to post by bispensiero


Yes that was an image that was on the website at one stage...

adundas.noemata.net...

If you look at the picture mirrored it shows within it:
50.jpg
0761.jpg
fortart.jpg

Well obviously the picture was chosen for some reason and the fact that if you mirror it these jpg clues come up. Not sure where to find them though.

Originally posted by mmirror
reply to post by Fraam

 

Thought preceeds action. So Mind preceeds that of Matter. Yet both are intrinsic to our creation. Mind is the core that we see from where all is determined, and matter is the interactive device to which we partake in creation.

You may not be aware of it but the heart operates at the highest frequency within the human body. Emotions are even faster than the speed of thought. They operate outside of time/space when they are in resonance with the higher circuits of the multiverse. This is why the most profound spiritual experiences are woven from the textures of the heart’s emotions rather than the thoughts of the mind.
I encourage checking into the research of the Institute of HeartMath and this study in particular.

Originally posted by sheba2011

Yes, yes yes BUT.. if you had an entire eternity to deal with, trust me, you'd get bored. No matter how amazing your world was, you'd explore it all into every inch nook and cranny... and then find yourself bored.

So what would you do with that boredom??? You'd create some excitement, some drama. You'd imagine.

Think of the zero as this infinite being trapped in a coma. The zero has explored all his memories over and over again. Everything he ever learned and trapped in his mind before the coma took over. What would such a trapped formless mind do?

IMAGINE. DREAM. CREATE. Including creating drama..... and plot lines.

Perfect, and agreed upon. This leads me to the continuation of my previous post... about Neo and the Matrix.

Neo has seen the Truth, but is this truth in relation only to one/our level of matrix? It could be a relative truth, which resides within the confines of a more rarified (higher) matrix.

I have seen the movie, of course, though I admit I am not too well versed in it, because it was years ago. So I will watch it again for further reference. At that time, another movie came out, The Thirteenth Floor, which went unnoticed, and which I thought had a deeper insight.

If Zero is trapped in a coma, then there are infinite layers to the Matrix, each one a step above the other. When you move out from a lower level, you realize you have been living in a Matrix and think you have reached the Truth (which is true in a relative way), but you are still in another one of a higher level, and so on. Anything that emanates from the zero mind is still a construct, imagination, dream, creation.

So, in order to be completely out of the Matrix, one must join Zero on the other side of the dream.

Originally posted by cosmickat
Hi everyone, I have to admit I have never followed a forum thread so avidly, but something about this just captured me. The way you all have been working on this has really impressed me and I commend you all for your focus and drive to get to the heart of it!
I just wanted to mention something that I stumbled on tonight...or I should say this am ( 3:00 local time )

A few hundred pages back you were talking about the 2 most beautiful words being " cellar door " with a reference to Lord of the Rings if I recall it correctly? Anyway it's been bugging me and I don't know if maybe I missed a page or two and this has already been brought up...but after listening to Obama's speech on 9/11 and the Psalm he read from I went to read up on it ( mainly because it was such a surreal choice for the occasion ) and the original new testament psalm he read is punctuated at the end of each verse by " Selah " which I think means something similar to Amen. Hebrew for Mystical Light is " Ohr ". Selah Ohr......Cellar Door?
Anyway....after all this it lead me to a very strange site...
selahdohr.com...
Please check it out.....it's got me kind of rattled !!
Didn't intend to get this involved...was merely spectating, but thought I would share.
Peace

Wow... thank you for sharing!
Intriguing to say the least... and a very interesting connection that you made...

did someone found why the safe background is now in red??

Originally posted by Druid42

Originally posted by cosmickat
reply to post by Fraam

 

thankyou for the welcome, was nervous about posting. Been reading on here for a couple of years now.
Intellectual trip! like the sound of that

Peace

I beg your pardon, but how could you possibly lurk for 2 years and not have anything to say?

LOL. Where's my list?

LOL. Then you can add me to the list. Trust me, it is possible.

I can post, or not post, avidly read some threads, or not. Life goes in cycles.
For some interesting threads, it was too late in the game, some other ones, reading would suffice, without having to add anything, or wanting to become involved in the drama. That does not mean one doesn't have an opinion.

Who What When Where am I?
I AM.

I am love
I am safe
I am seen
I am free

"To BE or not to BE? That is the question"

I choose to BE because I AM.

Why?
To UNDERSTAND

Without all of life's experiences I cannot fully understand.
Without sickness I cannot know health.
Without sadness or fear I cannot know love or happiness.
Without poverty I cannot know richness.
Without death I cannot know life.
Without war I cannot know peace.

Maybe I've missed this along the way, but has anyone seen this one....

oct282011.com...

Originally posted by avatar22
Maybe I've missed this along the way, but has anyone seen this one....

oct282011.com...

Another mistake maybe?

reply to post by Fraam


Fraam, will you look up the number you see at the top of that page...
I see an IP address... It's kind of freaking me out... hoping you (and others) get a different number than I do.

When i'm scared and you're close I feel _. It's hard to feel _ nowadays. Can you find where to be _ ? Wait there, and you'll be _ .[....]

When i'm scared and you are close i feel OPEN. It's hard to feel OPEN nowadays. Can you find where to be OPEN? Wait there, and you'll be OPEN.

What is these manuals are the keys to becoming open, over coming the fear they create to the "new user", and what is the websites, quotes etc are that of people who have become OPEN?

What is OPEN is actually a group of others who have become OPEN, what if these OPEN people have felt this...When i'm scared and you are close i feel OPEN. It's hard to feel OPEN nowadays. Can you find where to be OPEN? Wait there, and you'll be OPEN.

Originally posted by jrmcleod

When i'm scared and you're close I feel _. It's hard to feel _ nowadays. Can you find where to be _ ? Wait there, and you'll be _ .[....]

When i'm scared and you are close i feel OPEN. It's hard to feel OPEN nowadays. Can you find where to be OPEN? Wait there, and you'll be OPEN.

What is these manuals are the keys to becoming open, over coming the fear they create to the "new user", and what is the websites, quotes etc are that of people who have become OPEN?

What is OPEN is actually a group of others who have become OPEN, what if these OPEN people have felt this...When i'm scared and you are close i feel OPEN. It's hard to feel OPEN nowadays. Can you find where to be OPEN? Wait there, and you'll be OPEN.

I like where you are headed with this...
I have looked into the OPEN possibility, but did not get so far as to think that maybe it is a group process. Maybe the clues ARE being shown piece by piece from people as they "get it"....
Definitely worth a ponder...