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Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
WAR!!! lol
For me I'm giving this topic the benefit of the doubt although my patience is getting pretty thin...like the ozone layer. One more vague theory or answer and I'll shoot someone (kidding lol)
Just a question though...people are putting they're theories around here but who gets to say that we are on the right track.
I mean until Open confirms something or a piece of theory is on the right track, we'll just go around in circles. AND NO, A BUTTON ON 0CT282011 WILL NOT DO as a sign...coz that can mean anything.
Just saying...will we float around ideas until oct28? A system has to be in place to acknowledge if we are going on the right track...AND NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO...
: )
IQ, I do thank you for joining, but you can't make demands. Yes, we had been going around in circles, the site even went black, inverse colors, mostly because of me. The flame went out. I realized then where this was going, and in good faith, I asked him to turn it white again. He did. The flame is still burning. That is a good sign. I even asked him tonight for another st2, and he agreed. The button you are referring to is an act of faith. It seems to me that even though he added one at my request, his faith in us is small.
We shouldn't be reliant upon Open to direct us. Personally, I see no reason to ask him for anything else at this point, because we have tons of clues to work upon. We need to understand what we have before us before we ask anything else.
I personally feel that when we have our train going, the second st2 will grow. If we do good enough, we'll get a third. We are so far from that. Why can't we simply come together? What is the resilience to unity?
There are questions I can't answer. Yet.
We need to work together. Yes, we do.
Originally posted by snewpers
reply to post by Druid42
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Not sure where to start. You, of all people, accuse me for derailing this thread?
Are you even serious. Somehow you have gotten the idea that you are the one
that should lead this thread. You are doing a poor job.
You do NOT represent me. You represent those that think like you, all others
are 'clueless' in your eyes.
Loyalty... dear mother of peanuts... really? Man lower your flags.
Blah blah blah... it's all about you isn't it. And please, PLEASE, for the love
of humanity stop giving out points as if the mean ANYTHING to anyone.
You are not my master, teacher, leader or representative, so you points
mean nothing. You are delusional, yes. In a way that you have lost touch
with reality. I'm sorry for that.
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Originally posted by Druid42
You ask questions, so I'm obligated to answer them. I speak in the "WE" form as a representative of a participating member of this thread. I have no authority here, Grower is the OP, yet she's sleeping now, and will be back in the morning. I am posting honorably, and would prefer to discuss the clues, yet I am overwhelmed by people who are questioning my sincere intent. This is being recorded, and saved, so the record will speak for itself when other people, when they arise from their slumber, read this. I tried to shut this down many pages ago, yet Grower said she needed me, so I am honor bound to continue this, to it's conclusion. Do you understand what loyalty means?
Delusional? Hmm. That means not being able to see reality as others do. I think I've tried to get this thread back on track. That is my sole purpose. I haven't made a derogatory statement to anyone, I've been polite (within my means), and have positively responded to everyone's inquiries. You sir, have earned your second /minus point/. That's two, and this one is awarded on the basis of trying to derail a thread.
Please feel free to grab a clue and tell us what it means to you. Cingularity got his /minus point/ removed, because he clarified his statement. Can you do the same?
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by snewpers
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Ah cool, finally fixed the records subdomain eh?
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This is great! We could spill over the mind f*cking over there again! lol
I like the "negativity" you bring in, it balances the new age mumbo jumbo out...by the way, I read somewhere that if there's treasure behind the gate and there's a gatekeeper...you don't go through the gate...you go around it.
But what if there's no treasure? No gate is necessary then. No walls. Just the gatekeeper pretending to guard something of value.
Why?
Because the gatekeeper has to find meaning for himself...alone he's just a nobody. A statistic. A speck in the universe. So he goes on with his pretend games, looking for playmates who could act as knights seeking treasure.
Fun, fun, fun...then reality kicks in.
GAME OVER
Originally posted by snewpers
reply to post by IQPREREQUISITE
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You are absolutely correct. I've said it before, without an audience Open has nothing.
'We' might not be in on the info, but when oct 28 comes, we'll know what happened,
or we won't. Makes no difference to me at all.
Why discuss that you know what's to be expected? You should either say nothing
or tell what you mean. The riddles are getting boring, the paths are thin, and results
are not in sight.
Some want to be the gatekeeper, I'd like to become one of those who peek through the
keyhole and then decide whether or not to open the door... or go around it
I don't think I'm negative at all, it's all a matter of perception (eh! perception). I'm getting
a bit annoyed by the new age, spiritual thingy. If that turns out to be what this is about I
can understand why no riddle has a solution.... hint hint!
Oh and I do not have anything against druid42, I don't like his way of communicating.
.
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by snewpers
.
Ah cool, finally fixed the records subdomain eh?
.
This is great! We could spill over the mind f*cking over there again! lol
I like the "negativity" you bring in, it balances the new age mumbo jumbo out...by the way, I read somewhere that if there's treasure behind the gate and there's a gatekeeper...you don't go through the gate...you go around it.
But what if there's no treasure? No gate is necessary then. No walls. Just the gatekeeper pretending to guard something of value.
Why?
Because the gatekeeper has to find meaning for himself...alone he's just a nobody. A statistic. A speck in the universe. So he goes on with his pretend games, looking for playmates who could act as knights seeking treasure.
Fun, fun, fun...then reality kicks in.
GAME OVER
Wow, IQ, you surprised me. Congratulations, you have your first /minus point/. You are rather blatant about not wanting to add anything to this thread.
Originally posted by drunkenbuddha
reply to post by Druid42
I wish you'd be able to explain more, but I understand why. See the bold I made. That is enough to cause FEAR in anyone, and it's a survival trait to rely upon fear. It doesn't need to be that way. I think that is something that Open is trying to explain.
the fear is part of the process. You can't expect people to fall in an all-positive state of bliss just like that. You saw earlier that when people tried the gazing-exercise most of them were fearfull of it. The fear is part of your ego. The stronger the foundation of a ego overtime, the stronger will fear be. Ask a baby to do it, it will not fear because it's ego is still very young and has no strong foundation. The fear is only a temporary thing, . It passed over in my case. I don't personally belief that eye-gazing is so important. It's more important to tune the brain to the "where are things"-circuit instead of the "what are things". Gazing in an eye has a "where are things"-quality but it will trigger strange illusions (yes open, they ARE illusions, trust me). Tune the brain's radio receiver to an other preset.
We all had mystical experiences when very young. At least I remember a few.
The fear is good but not a goal an sich. It's the pain of labour in the birthgiving process. (There we go again: Egg!)
Can't start it without, but you will shake it off later. No way in my humble view that open can provide a technique without fear. Fear will tell you that you are on the right track.
PS: Open, please, make the st2 grow a bit for druid42.edit on 2-9-2011 by drunkenbuddha because: (no reason given)
I am in no way trying to make other people think like I do. Everyone has their own opinions, for sure, but in order to solve this puzzle we need less condemnation and more contribution. If you have a thought that is on topic, please share it.
I'm sure others will be more lenient on you, but this thread, to be on topic, is about solving the oct282011 site, and what it is about. You now have three /minus points/. You seem to want to be a troll. You refuse to contribute anything positive.
I'll step back for a moment. Why are you so negative? If you'd like to keep the thread on topic, and contribute something positive, I'll be more than happy to hand over the reigns. If I am doing such a bad job, then you can have it, but please respect the OP and get others to contribute.
I am in no way trying to make other people think like I do. Everyone has their own opinions, for sure, but in order to solve this puzzle we need less condemnation and more contribution. If you have a thought that is on topic, please share it.
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
WAR!!! lol
For me I'm giving this topic the benefit of the doubt although my patience is getting pretty thin...like the ozone layer. One more vague theory or answer and I'll shoot someone (kidding lol)
Just a question though...people are putting they're theories around here but who gets to say that we are on the right track.
I mean until Open confirms something or a piece of theory is on the right track, we'll just go around in circles. AND NO, A BUTTON ON 0CT282011 WILL NOT DO as a sign...coz that can mean anything.
Just saying...will we float around ideas until oct28? A system has to be in place to acknowledge if we are going on the right track...AND NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO...
: )
IQ, I do thank you for joining, but you can't make demands. Yes, we had been going around in circles, the site even went black, inverse colors, mostly because of me. The flame went out. I realized then where this was going, and in good faith, I asked him to turn it white again. He did. The flame is still burning. That is a good sign. I even asked him tonight for another st2, and he agreed. The button you are referring to is an act of faith. It seems to me that even though he added one at my request, his faith in us is small.
We shouldn't be reliant upon Open to direct us. Personally, I see no reason to ask him for anything else at this point, because we have tons of clues to work upon. We need to understand what we have before us before we ask anything else.
I personally feel that when we have our train going, the second st2 will grow. If we do good enough, we'll get a third. We are so far from that. Why can't we simply come together? What is the resilience to unity?
There are questions I can't answer. Yet.
We need to work together. Yes, we do.
I beg to differ...sorry. I CAN make demands. I CAN be and say whatever that is related to the topic. No one can tell me otherwise unless I break ATS rules. Open is just the messenger, he doesn't own the message. It's up to Open or whoever who created the site to say yes or no to my demands and no one else.
I CAN say all of this is BS and I CAN say there's something to it. I don't know if Open is playing with us or not. It is only YOUR opinion that he is not playing with us. Should I take Open's word that he is sincere. That is for ME to decide. Should I take YOUR word that he is sincere. That's for me to find out. Should I speculate that Open and YOU are in cohorts? Yes, I believe I have that right.
I'm putting my two cents out there, it may or may not be in line with YOU or Open's train of thought/process, but I'll still put it out there. Not for Open, but for the others here to see and evaluate.
So...
A system has to be in place Open...And NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO.
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by snewpers
.
Ah cool, finally fixed the records subdomain eh?
.
This is great! We could spill over the mind f*cking over there again! lol
I like the "negativity" you bring in, it balances the new age mumbo jumbo out...by the way, I read somewhere that if there's treasure behind the gate and there's a gatekeeper...you don't go through the gate...you go around it.
But what if there's no treasure? No gate is necessary then. No walls. Just the gatekeeper pretending to guard something of value.
Why?
Because the gatekeeper has to find meaning for himself...alone he's just a nobody. A statistic. A speck in the universe. So he goes on with his pretend games, looking for playmates who could act as knights seeking treasure.
Fun, fun, fun...then reality kicks in.
GAME OVER
Wow, IQ, you surprised me. Congratulations, you have your first /minus point/. You are rather blatant about not wanting to add anything to this thread.
Dude, read what I said...I said I read it somewhere...It's a theory I'm applying here. I'm agreeing with snewpers. IS AGREEING WITH SNEWPERS ON ONE POINT A CRIME?
I posted some of my theories already. I even copy furnished everyone from the record site. I'm also looking for facts on GLP. How would you know I don't want to add anything to this thread?
Weird dude, I'm busting my ass looking for clues and explanations here and you give me a minus point for sharing an idea with snewpers and INTERPRETING THAT AS ME NOT WANTING TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE THREAD.
Weird dude, just plain illogical.
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
WAR!!! lol
For me I'm giving this topic the benefit of the doubt although my patience is getting pretty thin...like the ozone layer. One more vague theory or answer and I'll shoot someone (kidding lol)
Just a question though...people are putting they're theories around here but who gets to say that we are on the right track.
I mean until Open confirms something or a piece of theory is on the right track, we'll just go around in circles. AND NO, A BUTTON ON 0CT282011 WILL NOT DO as a sign...coz that can mean anything.
Just saying...will we float around ideas until oct28? A system has to be in place to acknowledge if we are going on the right track...AND NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO...
: )
IQ, I do thank you for joining, but you can't make demands. Yes, we had been going around in circles, the site even went black, inverse colors, mostly because of me. The flame went out. I realized then where this was going, and in good faith, I asked him to turn it white again. He did. The flame is still burning. That is a good sign. I even asked him tonight for another st2, and he agreed. The button you are referring to is an act of faith. It seems to me that even though he added one at my request, his faith in us is small.
We shouldn't be reliant upon Open to direct us. Personally, I see no reason to ask him for anything else at this point, because we have tons of clues to work upon. We need to understand what we have before us before we ask anything else.
I personally feel that when we have our train going, the second st2 will grow. If we do good enough, we'll get a third. We are so far from that. Why can't we simply come together? What is the resilience to unity?
There are questions I can't answer. Yet.
We need to work together. Yes, we do.
I beg to differ...sorry. I CAN make demands. I CAN be and say whatever that is related to the topic. No one can tell me otherwise unless I break ATS rules. Open is just the messenger, he doesn't own the message. It's up to Open or whoever who created the site to say yes or no to my demands and no one else.
I CAN say all of this is BS and I CAN say there's something to it. I don't know if Open is playing with us or not. It is only YOUR opinion that he is not playing with us. Should I take Open's word that he is sincere. That is for ME to decide. Should I take YOUR word that he is sincere. That's for me to find out. Should I speculate that Open and YOU are in cohorts? Yes, I believe I have that right.
I'm putting my two cents out there, it may or may not be in line with YOU or Open's train of thought/process, but I'll still put it out there. Not for Open, but for the others here to see and evaluate.
So...
A system has to be in place Open...And NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO.
So what do you suggest? What's the system you'd like to see? If a button won't work, what would you like? What are you really afraid of?
Originally posted by snewpers
reply to post by IQPREREQUISITE
.
You are absolutely correct. I've said it before, without an audience Open has nothing.
'We' might not be in on the info, but when oct 28 comes, we'll know what happened,
or we won't. Makes no difference to me at all.
Why discuss that you know what's to be expected? You should either say nothing
or tell what you mean. The riddles are getting boring, the paths are thin, and results
are not in sight.
Some want to be the gatekeeper, I'd like to become one of those who peek through the
keyhole and then decide whether or not to open the door... or go around it
I don't think I'm negative at all, it's all a matter of perception (eh! perception). I'm getting
a bit annoyed by the new age, spiritual thingy. If that turns out to be what this is about I
can understand why no riddle has a solution.... hint hint!
Oh and I do not have anything against druid42, I don't like his way of communicating.
.
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by snewpers
.
Ah cool, finally fixed the records subdomain eh?
.
This is great! We could spill over the mind f*cking over there again! lol
I like the "negativity" you bring in, it balances the new age mumbo jumbo out...by the way, I read somewhere that if there's treasure behind the gate and there's a gatekeeper...you don't go through the gate...you go around it.
But what if there's no treasure? No gate is necessary then. No walls. Just the gatekeeper pretending to guard something of value.
Why?
Because the gatekeeper has to find meaning for himself...alone he's just a nobody. A statistic. A speck in the universe. So he goes on with his pretend games, looking for playmates who could act as knights seeking treasure.
Fun, fun, fun...then reality kicks in.
GAME OVER
Wow, IQ, you surprised me. Congratulations, you have your first /minus point/. You are rather blatant about not wanting to add anything to this thread.
Dude, read what I said...I said I read it somewhere...It's a theory I'm applying here. I'm agreeing with snewpers. IS AGREEING WITH SNEWPERS ON ONE POINT A CRIME?
I posted some of my theories already. I even copy furnished everyone from the record site. I'm also looking for facts on GLP. How would you know I don't want to add anything to this thread?
Weird dude, I'm busting my ass looking for clues and explanations here and you give me a minus point for sharing an idea with snewpers and INTERPRETING THAT AS ME NOT WANTING TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE THREAD.
Weird dude, just plain illogical.
Not illogical. Your banter with snewpers adds nothing to the real aspect of this thread. Please stay on topic. You stated you like his "negativity". You wish to sneak.
Solving this puzzle requires honesty, and no sneaking is permitted. You simply won't get it. You are still at 1 /minus point/. Do something to remedy that. Cingularity did. Are you reading this thread, or are you self absorbed in your own desires? Do you wish to contribute, or not? Go to GLP for drama, please. We are trying to solve a puzzle here.
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
Originally posted by Druid42
Originally posted by IQPREREQUISITE
WAR!!! lol
For me I'm giving this topic the benefit of the doubt although my patience is getting pretty thin...like the ozone layer. One more vague theory or answer and I'll shoot someone (kidding lol)
Just a question though...people are putting they're theories around here but who gets to say that we are on the right track.
I mean until Open confirms something or a piece of theory is on the right track, we'll just go around in circles. AND NO, A BUTTON ON 0CT282011 WILL NOT DO as a sign...coz that can mean anything.
Just saying...will we float around ideas until oct28? A system has to be in place to acknowledge if we are going on the right track...AND NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO...
: )
IQ, I do thank you for joining, but you can't make demands. Yes, we had been going around in circles, the site even went black, inverse colors, mostly because of me. The flame went out. I realized then where this was going, and in good faith, I asked him to turn it white again. He did. The flame is still burning. That is a good sign. I even asked him tonight for another st2, and he agreed. The button you are referring to is an act of faith. It seems to me that even though he added one at my request, his faith in us is small.
We shouldn't be reliant upon Open to direct us. Personally, I see no reason to ask him for anything else at this point, because we have tons of clues to work upon. We need to understand what we have before us before we ask anything else.
I personally feel that when we have our train going, the second st2 will grow. If we do good enough, we'll get a third. We are so far from that. Why can't we simply come together? What is the resilience to unity?
There are questions I can't answer. Yet.
We need to work together. Yes, we do.
I beg to differ...sorry. I CAN make demands. I CAN be and say whatever that is related to the topic. No one can tell me otherwise unless I break ATS rules. Open is just the messenger, he doesn't own the message. It's up to Open or whoever who created the site to say yes or no to my demands and no one else.
I CAN say all of this is BS and I CAN say there's something to it. I don't know if Open is playing with us or not. It is only YOUR opinion that he is not playing with us. Should I take Open's word that he is sincere. That is for ME to decide. Should I take YOUR word that he is sincere. That's for me to find out. Should I speculate that Open and YOU are in cohorts? Yes, I believe I have that right.
I'm putting my two cents out there, it may or may not be in line with YOU or Open's train of thought/process, but I'll still put it out there. Not for Open, but for the others here to see and evaluate.
So...
A system has to be in place Open...And NO, A BUTTON WILL NOT DO.
So what do you suggest? What's the system you'd like to see? If a button won't work, what would you like? What are you really afraid of?
Don't judge me bro...you don't even know me. Your interpretation of the statements I made tell you that I'm afraid of something? lol Weird...and don't give me minus or plus points either, that's a sign of lack of respect. Not just to me but to people who post here. Your an adult...let's talk adult. Man to man. Logic to logic. Specifics to specifics.
My suggestion for a system? A Q&A page like formspring. Open can take yes or no questions there.
I say, "Is my theory on this and that on the right track?"
Open would say, "No."
I say, "Did I miss anything...on the *42 page perhaps?"
Open would say, "Yes! Look further. You're getting there. If you don't believe it ask yourself why."
Something like that. It doesnt even have to be a person per person deal. We could collect the top 5 Questions we have and ask him. Others will get to see his post as well...AND TOGETHER WE CAN WORK OUT WHERE WE WENT WRONG AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE HEADED....BASED ON HIS GUIDANCE.
Is that too much to ask? And why are you suddenly acting like a jealous boyfriend all of a sudden? Acting like Open's sports agent?
Hey, we are equals here bro. You don't give or take anything away from me or the others. REMEMBER THAT.
So maybe I should communicate a bit more clearly. Here are the keywords you have stated: boring, thin, not in sight, annoyed. If someone is expressing those views, I'd think they'd move along. I know I would if I felt that way. If something is not interesting to me, I simply pass over it, and find something else interesting. I also don't complain that is is boring, etc. I simply move on.
You are also speculating that this is some sort of New Age movement. The facts are that there is no solid connection to any New Age movement whatsoever. There was a tenuous link to the Church of Scientology, but only because of the eye gazing "manual". That link was accepted to not be true. A dead end.
Need I say more?