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Ron Paul Will Win The Republican Nomination & The Presidency

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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Okay there's alot of Ron Paul threads and in every thread people who respect him say "he's going to lose", "He cannot win" "he's too honest to win" or "he's going to get assassinated"

I think that there might very well be less negative energy around Ron Paul coming from Anti-Ron Paulers than pro Ron Paulers.

Enough with the negative energy already, you are just increasing the "he will not win" counts, the internet spiders are picking this up.

I love that ATS has alot of RP support but I hate all the negative energy as well, it's sickening to say the least.
And everythign there's a new ron paul thread someone says "I hope you understand he can't win" or "I predict he will be assassinated' and that same poster seems to think he is saying something very new and very enlightening, something that nobody ever said before and that poster feels so proud thinking nobody ever said it before.

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are creating too much negative energy, instead of saying such things why dont you say "He has to win", "An Honest politician is a breath of fresh air".

But no, all you say is he can't win
And lurkers are reading this and they'll think he's not electable

I'm so sick and tired of such postings it's crazy
And i'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired.

So can we all please start today with positive comments
Let's go

He is going to win!
Wow look at this:
Video: Ron Paul 81%, Rick Perry 19%



That's excellent news, he has the media against him but in it's own way that may raise some eyebrows and help him out in the long run.



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posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Ron Paul can definitely win. 4 years ago it would have been unthinkable. Now he is the front-runner, and the worse things get, the better he'll do



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Judging from preliminary and past debates, also from perspective and hype, Ron Paul is seeming to be the ONLY one who will have a shot against Obama's charm and rhetoric.

Paul is the only candidate with enough logic and debate proficiency to give Barry a run for his money...

It seems any other republican the party throws out there just wont be able to compete with Obama on a charm level...

The only drawback right now is not a lot of people have seen the true side of Paul and far too many still have some third party perception of paul being a no party nut case...this will change, the MSNBC interview was epic...

More exposure combined with logical debate HAS to give him the bid, no other republican stands a chance so as much as the republicans may not want to nominate Paul, he, to to the party, has the most bread winning potential giving them the best shot at reclaiming the house.

The whole democrat vs republican debate is funny to me.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Damn straight my friend!
I've been saying the same thing to so many people for so long. It truly is sickening that we've become so jaded and cynical that defeatism has become the norm. Your negative thoughts just might have a negative affect on the outcome, but your negative words certainly will. The more you reinforce such a stupid idea that Ron Paul CANT be elected, the more you make it a self fulfilling prophecy.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Weren't they saying similar things about Obama last time around?

YOU, the American people can make this happen.

I really hope for the rest of us that he is as good as his word on his foreign policies and his economic policies.

As much as I have hated the fact that we (U.K) have become your lap dogs, I know the reasons for this. Besides, I really don't want to start learning Mandarin.

So, come on RP do it for the sake of the Western World.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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I'm for much of what Ron Paul wants to do.
but he will never make the grade of getting the nomination.
It is not hard to imagine the worst that could happen to keep that office from him.

On the other had, all of the buzz is on the special places on the internet that the MSS (Main Stream Sheeple) never access. Hell, the average American hardly knows his name and will be told it on the MSM only in a derogatory way. Between the media and the Repubs, he ain't got a snowball's chance....

Don't put too much faith in his "power" via your internet haunts. In thruth, it is all virtual.
edit on 17-8-2011 by Aliensun because: Grammar error



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Yes sir I agree.HE IS GOING TO WIN!!!

And the 2012 Repulican nominee....IS RON PAUL!!!

Come you internet spyders, crawl all over that.

I saw a CNN report on him that was great, totally positive, it's in another thread but too bad no one watches CNN anymore.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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its no longer a matter of "if he'll win". Its moved to a more dramatic catagory. More like he has to win. Imagine if he doesn't. From what the people are saying in any thread of any website, specifically yahoo.com, Ron Paul is always ignored.90% of all the posts are all "what about Ron". It's actually kind of amusing that all the people are calling the MSM out on it. All the poll ratings are rigged(goes without saying) but the people that are actually paying attention, are paying attention to Ron Paul and his lack of media support. I'd have to slightly agree with the fact that the media was doing a blackout on him opened a lot of peoples eyes to this very biased system that the majority blindly follows. poor shmucks.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Aliensun
I'm for much of what Ron Paul wants to do.
but he will never make the grade of getting the nomination.

Do you think you are saying something brilliant?

I think it's the other way around, you are trying to defame something that you would love to happen



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Confidence that he can be elected is barely registerable, proven by the recent ATS poll.

ATS is a haven of Ron Paul support yet the poll proved nobody ranked his electabillity as a strong factor, that is why you are seeing his supporters here express their no confidence in him by the type of comments that you listed which you are complaining about.

Your rantings won't change that, Ron Paul himself has to steer his campaign into a winning strategy. The problem is to date he has shown he has no control over his base.
Whining about the media has been their latest tantrum.

Like it or not the RNC controls the workings of the Republican party and Ron Paul is nothing but a phoney to them. They know he will ditch them to go independant and in the meantime just rob airtime from their supported candidates. He is a third party hemeroid on the tail end of a Party that got a spanking the last time around, what kind of welcoming commity to you think he is ever going to get?

There are probably multitudes of Obama supporters who switch to Republican in their Primaries just to upset the enemy party by voting for Ron Paul, in the general election they will switch back for Obama. I have seen this strategy bragged about and supported and encouraged on ATS almost on a daily basis.
This reduces Ron Paul to nothing more than a tool for the enemy camp in the eyes of the RNC.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Poll: Paul's 14% Tops Bachmann's 10% in NH
www.slate.com...

Romney - 36%
Perry - 18%
Paul - 14%
Bachmann - 10%
Cain - 3%
Huntsman - 3%
Gingrich - 2%


Top 3, he's a front runner there's absolutely no doubt about it
People just need to be more creative and not rely on the media for spotlight



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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My cousin up in Montpelier, VT has told me that there is a very strong base of ‘Yankee Republican’ and anti-war activist support for Ron Paul throughout New England. He is a Democrat, voted for Bernie Sanders and Peter Welch, but said that since no important Democrats have anything to worry about in the primaries and that Obama has angered a lot of the anti-authoritarian Democrats who make-up New England that he, like many others, will be registering Republican to vote for Ron Paul.

I was very glad to hear that and hope more anti-war, anti-authoritarian Democrats decide to do the same. Ron Paul’s economic ideas may chase away a lot of Democrats but they must understand that it is not that he wants to eliminate social services entirely or anything else for that matter, he just wants the Feds to stop micromanaging everything, just let the states manage that business. The more Democrats we can reach and explain to them he wants to decentralize the government rather than eliminate it, the more support will go to RP.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Unfortunately, it seems to be only because they support Socialism. Sanders is Socialist and member of DSA. However, Republicans will be happy to take their vote.
edit on 17-8-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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The question in the ATS poll was, to paraphrase - What is it about yada yada candidate that is your primary reason for supporting them?.

Thus, his low ratings vis a vis "ekectability" only indicates it's not the reason why people support him. Period.

Suporting a candidate primarily because they are electable doesn't speak very well for the candidate.

There were not poll questions concerning what people's opininion of a candidate's electability were.

RON PAUL - CAN WIN!



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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The question in the ATS poll was, to paraphrase - What is it about yada yada candidate that is your primary reason for supporting them?.

Thus, his low ratings vis a vis "ekectability" only indicates it's not the reason why people support him. Period.

Suporting a candidate primarily because they are electable doesn't speak very well for the candidate.

There were no poll questions concerning what people's opininion of a candidate's electability were.

RON PAUL - CAN WIN!

Ron Paul - The One to beat Obama!






edit on 17-8-2011 by robyn because: add video



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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This OP has identified a symptom through observation here on ATS that correlates precisely with the ATS polling questionaire results.
Your theory has no basis in reallity other than wishfull thinking whereas my position of low confidence in Ron Paul now has two legs to stand on instead of the one the Poll provided.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Si se Puede
Yes he Can Win



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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I love what Ron Paul represents and would love to see him win the Presidency. He would head up losing to Obama though. All Obama would have to do is say Ron Paul is a racist, look at what he has been sending out in his news letters about Martin Luther King Jr. and that he is against the civil rights act. He won't matter if he wrote the news letter or not. Do you think most people are going to actually put any research into it? Nope, they are going follow what is told to them.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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The new 60 second spot makes Ronnie Paul look like Jesus, Neo, and that lion from Narnia, all rolled into one.

Epic.



posted on Aug, 17 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by wardk28
I love what Ron Paul represents and would love to see him win the Presidency. He would head up losing to Obama though. All Obama would have to do is say Ron Paul is a racist, look at what he has been sending out in his news letters about Martin Luther King Jr. and that he is against the civil rights act. He won't matter if he wrote the news letter or not. Do you think most people are going to actually put any research into it? Nope, they are going follow what is told to them.


You could make a PPV out of a Obama Paul debate...I would pay money to see that live.

I doubt Obama would scream racism. He, against the advice of his party, would see Paul as a valid opponent and try to out wit him.

I'm leaning towards Paul winning.



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