The Hidden Name of God - The point of your search for truth and meaning in life...

LOVE is the central theme of God and is His hidden nature. In the Bible, a person's name is his character. Taking the Lord's name in vain is taking on the character of God without showing this by actions. People are searching for the hidden God and the ultimate meaning of truth. This is our central task as a human. Since God cannot be represented by the material world, He is must be found somewhere else.

Nothing in the material world is separate from what is created except one thing: That is, what preexisted matter. What is the answer to what pre-existed? LOVE, FAITH, HOPE, JUSTICE and RIGHTEOUSNESS. When all these are gone, LOVE will remain. This is the secret and hidden nature and name of God. All that came before or comes after is based on God's hidden nature. Nature reveals God. Look for Him anywhere you like, but He is right in front of you, within you and all around you. He is not in the Bible, although the Bible describes Him by mans history. He is not in any text, movie or physical representation. All things describe Him and reveal Him only.

His secret is 1 Corinthians 13. Paul knew the riddle to existence. The hidden truth that everyone searches the world to find--LOVE. This is agape love--divine love. Once you realize that all the other distractions and descriptions are only pointing to His hidden name, you are free. The hidden name is His character and the treasure for those who take this name as their own. Know the truth and the truth will set you free from the contradiction of good and evil.

Taking the Lord's name is the point. If you take it in vain, you are duplicitous. This means you say or thing one thing, but mean another. This amounts to the pride mentioned in Genesis 3 and amounts to living a lie. Does God judge you in this life? If you choose to look at it that way, then who is judging? You can only judge yourself by your thoughts and actions. Thoughts and actions lead to results in this world. All actions have reactions. We reap what we sow. There is only one way to live in this material world and five things set you free.

Gospel of Thomas -

"If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you.

For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

LOVE, FAITH, HOPE, JUSTICE and RIGHTEOUSNESS

You may be asking these question: Why is God represented as He is in the OT? Why is there contradiction in the world? Why do I find truth, only to then find its contradiction? Why is God good, yet evil exists? Why do I feel wonderful one minute and then horrible the next? What is the meaning of this paradox?

Answer: LOVE There is no way to reveal love apart from reveal its opposite by experience. God has provided this material world as a means to and end. You are a soul (Spiritual Being) having a human experience. The reason for this experience here and now is to find the hidden treasure and meaning of it all. LOVE is what remains when you rightly divide the truth from what you sense. It is all there to swing the pendulum of your mind between good and evil. When you finally realize the point, you gladly take on the name of God within your character. If not, you will continue to swing the pendulum until you awake from your sleep and intoxication with the world.

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S & F
Loved the way you put it. And of course the gospel of Thomas.
To me duality is the fabrice of the univerese. You cant have one without the other.
Kinda like saying those good memories wouldnt be so good without the bad ones.

LOTZA LUV
Thanks for the post and the simplicity of you're message of LOVE.
Once we all relize this. We can begin to walk the correct path.

All you need is love. Love is the light of our creator. Love is the feeling of our creator taking over your mind, body and soul. Love breaks through all social, physical and mental barriers. I love love.

I've always said, Im a lover, not a fighter. I've never hit another person in my entire life and I dont entend to either.
Great post
Spread the LOVE

So now the approach is in gnumerology (a private joke referring to gnosticism=gnusticism initially presented by the author James Joyce, I believe).

Though it doesn't really matter, if the 'value' of a name is made from numerological analysis or from other similar considerations.

What's important is the validity of the 'system' leading to any conclusions.

And the world is filled with diagrams with circles and arrows, resulting in some reasonable 'answers' sometimes, to cottage-industry versions with bizarre methodologies and bizarre 'answers'.

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genesis was written by Moses which means the whole premise is slanted.. If moses was an orphan raised and educated in the ways of Egyptian Mysticism and plagarizes Gilgamesh what point are we at?

And if, as some believe, Jesus is Lord how come the name is even incorrect? Points of fact
1. there were at least 2 councils of Nicea (where men edited whats left in the bible, decides what to censor, and what to completely exclude).
2. there was also the council of Trent.. and WHO KNOWS how many others man mande "edits"

Part B points of fact:
1. There was no 'J' sound in Hebrew
2 the word jesus is slanderous slur meaning Je (jew)- sus (pig, as this is what sus means)..
3. yahweh/yeshua is beleived to be more accurate.

My point is that the bible is a 2 thousand year example of the game "telephone" where what we have now is ABSOLUTELY WAY OFF.. and here's another one..

Adam meant man as in (humans) not the Dude's name as in genesis.. and eve also did not mean the lady who ate the apple.. it meant garden/forest..

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genesis was written by Moses which means the whole premise is slanted. If moses was an orphan raised and educated in the ways of Egyptian Mysticism and plagarizes Gilgamesh what point are we at?

Your premise is that Moses was slanted and that he plagiarized from the Egyptians. Without a reference, this is merely your opinion. You seem to be missing the excluded middle perspective. Egypt was paganism after the flood. Before the flood, the pyramids represented a monument to the lord. Isaiah 19. Enoch was Hermes (Jasher 3). Joseph and Moses unlocked the original meaning from Egypt. You say they plagiarized. What you are missing is God's work through the Hebrews in Egypt before the flood. There was a reason that the Hebrews were exiled to Babylon and Egypt.

And if, as some believe, Jesus is Lord how come the name is even incorrect? Points of fact 1. there were at least 2 councils of Nicea (where men edited whats left in the bible, decides what to censor, and what to completely exclude). 2. there was also the council of Trent.. and WHO KNOWS how many others man mande "edits"

You make assumptions based on counterfeit information. Show me a few links and I will have more to go on.

Part B points of fact: 1. There was no 'J' sound in Hebrew 2 the word jesus is slanderous slur meaning Je (jew)- sus (pig, as this is what sus means).. 3. yahweh/yeshua is beleived to be more accurate.

Jesus is the Greek rendering of His name. It is different in many languages. The name of God, which was referred to in the OP, has been hidden. The reason for this is obvious. Living life reveals His names. Ultimately, when the material world is gone, His name represents love.

My point is that the bible is a 2 thousand year example of the game "telephone" where what we have now is ABSOLUTELY WAY OFF.. and here's another one..

The Bible is a mirror of man and God. When you look in a mirror, what do you see? Your reflection. If God is in your image, then you see Him as well. The flaming sword from Genesis 3 will blind you to the truth if you are immersed in the material world. The flaming sword is the consuming fire of God that changes your spirit over time.

Adam meant man as in (humans) not the Dude's name as in genesis.. and eve also did not mean the lady who ate the apple.. it meant garden/forest..

You have said many things that are assumptions. Each time you state a piece of context that is opposite to accepted knowledge, you should reveal your source. This would make it helpful to rightly divide what you say.

As for all that you are concerned with, consider this: All of the material world is there for you to discover the point of it all. Love is the point. If you think you know truth, there will always be someone with an equal and opposite untruth to mirror your perspective. This is what it means to live in the world of yin and yang; male and female; good and evil. All degrees of existence are one thing. Like temperature on a scale of hot and cold, it is degrees of the same truth.

All truths are but untruths. All paradoxes can be resolved. If you say you possess truth, you can find someone who has a higher truth, which renders your truth untrue. Unless you possess both sides of truth, then you only have half truth. If I say I am above God's truth, I reveal my pride. No truth is higher than what the story of life reveals by dividing all sides of truth in degrees for us to consider. Love is what remains when all truth is rightly divided from its opposite.

1 Corinthians 13

11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I can see what you mean by bizarre.

Originally posted by bogomil
So now the approach is in gnumerology (a private joke referring to gnosticism=gnusticism initially presented by the author James Joyce, I believe).

Though it doesn't really matter, if the 'value' of a name is made from numerological analysis or from other similar considerations.

What's important is the validity of the 'system' leading to any conclusions.

And the world is filled with diagrams with circles and arrows, resulting in some reasonable 'answers' sometimes, to cottage-industry versions with bizarre methodologies and bizarre 'answers'.

edit on 16-8-2011 by bogomil because: spelling

Thank you. I also love the Gospel of Thomas. There is more to that quote I used.

Gospel of Thomas -

"If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you.

For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

Five is a really deep number in the Bible.

1. The trinity plus creation and redemption are five mysteries to solve (trees in Paradise). Redemption is Grace.

2. Grace is the number 5. Genesis 15:9 mentions five sacrifices heifer, a goat, a ram, a doe and a pigeon.

3. World is the number 4 and represents weakness. If you add 1 more to 4 you get five. This is God's strength added to the world.

4. Abram was weak until he becomes Abraham. The fifth letter added is a Hebrew Hey. This is the symbol for the number five. In ancient Hebrew, this stands for man with his arms outstretched. It also represents to look, reveal and the breath of life.

5. When Abram was called to walk with God, he became Abraham. This was when grace was added to his name (Character). His own name (Character) had changed by the unmerited favor of God.

As I said before, when we take on the name of God, we are changed by Grace. The five trees are represented by many fives in the Bible. I only scratch the surface.

Most importantly, Grace is what Jesus was speaking of. When we take on the name (Character) of God, we receive a different character ourselves.

AMAZING!!!! Grace. How Sweet!

Originally posted by Mividau
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S & F
Loved the way you put it. And of course the gospel of Thomas.
To me duality is the fabrice of the univerese. You cant have one without the other.
Kinda like saying those good memories wouldnt be so good without the bad ones.

LOTZA LUV
Thanks for the post and the simplicity of you're message of LOVE.
Once we all relize this. We can begin to walk the correct path.

I got this from another thread. Someone pointed this out:

John 4:8

8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Originally posted by SuperiorEd


I got this from another thread. Someone pointed this out:

John 4:8

8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

I believe that is 1 John my friend...

Heres another bit from it...

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Originally posted by Akragon

Originally posted by SuperiorEd


I got this from another thread. Someone pointed this out:

John 4:8

8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

I believe that is 1 John my friend...

Heres another bit from it...

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

You are correct. Missed the 1. Jesus continually said, fear not. It seems that part of faith is the ability to navigate the streams that branch off truth with assurance of the source from which they came.

Thanks for the correction.

There's barely a mention of Love in the bible, other than how much you should love the God character and its aliases.

No mention of love between two people, no mention of the love for your family, your children.....

Originally posted by Prezbo369
There's barely a mention of Love in the bible, other than how much you should love the God character and its aliases.

No mention of love between two people, no mention of the love for your family, your children.....

i disagree...

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

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Matthew 19:19
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
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John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Love thy neighbour/love one another includes everyone...family, friends, enemies, acquaintances, sick, elderly... And anyone else i might have missed

Originally posted by Prezbo369
There's barely a mention of Love in the bible, other than how much you should love the God character and its aliases.

No mention of love between two people, no mention of the love for your family, your children.....

Ahem, Jesus said "love your enemies as you love your neighbors", and he speaks of God's love often in his teachings. For the record Jesus' real name is Yeshua, incase anyone was wondering in other posts. Jesus came from the greek version and when greek translated to english it just stuck.

Originally posted by Akragon

i disagree...

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

----------

Matthew 19:19
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
-----------

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Love thy neighbour/love one another includes everyone...family, friends, enemies, acquaintances, sick, elderly... And anyone else i might have missed

Thats it? a few scraps mostly concentrating on loving your enemies (which is truly awful advice) and you consider it to the the God of love????

Surely there would be entire books dedicated to love, the ultimate expression of emotion to another, the bonding of two people that transcends everything........but there isn't. The authors of that novel are much more concerned with genocide, praising the God character and what people do in bed.

Originally posted by Prezbo369

Originally posted by Akragon

i disagree...

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

----------

Matthew 19:19
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
-----------

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Love thy neighbour/love one another includes everyone...family, friends, enemies, acquaintances, sick, elderly... And anyone else i might have missed

Thats it? a few scraps mostly concentrating on loving your enemies (which is truly awful advice) and you consider it to the the God of love????

Surely there would be entire books dedicated to love, the ultimate expression of emotion to another, the bonding of two people that transcends everything........but there isn't. The authors of that novel are much more concerned with genocide, praising the God character and what people do in bed.

Actually i consider it how one should treat another person regardless of who they are. Its a simple concept, theres no need to dedicate an entire book to it, though it is repeated over and over in the bible.

Loving your enemies is a truely hard concept to understand. I honestly think its by far the hardest of all of Jesus' teachings. Though if you understand that harming/hating another only harms yourself, the concept becomes a little easier to swallow.

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You said:

Thats it? a few scraps mostly concentrating on loving your enemies (which is truly awful advice) and you consider it to the the God of love????

Hate begets hate, violence begets violence. What Jesus was saying is that the only way to break that cycle is to love, because only love can break hate,anger and violence. If everyone loved eachother, then no one would hate, and there would be no violence and anger. The world would return to the way it was when God walked with Man and there was peace over all the earth.

Mind = blown.
Seriously, thank you for the post.