Police officer shot dead after pointing stun gun at man's dogs as he attended domestic dispute

Originally posted by HenryTwoTimes

Another bit of evidence that cops are out to destroy everything you love and that they deserve whatever happens to them for encroaching upon your right to freedom to life and liberty.

My dog is my best friend. And as with any best friend, I would defend him to my death. So of course this type of thing is going to occur when fascist ideology encroaches upon our God-given right to freedom. Perhaps if cops weren't so quick to be trampling upon the rights of humanity, they wouldn't occasionally run across those who take freedom and liberty seriously.

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edit on 8/15/11 by HenryTwoTimes because: (no reason given)

Sounds like the Dogs were dangerous which screams at me they were abused to make them dangerous. Only very sick and mentally disturbed people do that to their animals, not to mention this idiot shot a Cop, who was no doubt there because the person is a criminal in the first place. When anyone abuses dogs to make them dangerous, if they are shot its the dogs owners fault, not the shooter.

The simple truth is that this jerk needs to spend the rest of his life in prison and anyone who sides with him is a danger to civil society and should be watched carefully. You have to be way out there to take his side. Had he controlled his animals they would be alive. Put the blame where it truly belongs on the dogs owner.

If your dog attacks anyone, you are at fault also.

So from the flag count, there are 23 potential Cop Killers on ATS? Imagine that.

reply to post by Blaine91555


You speculate that the dogs were mistreated and then base your opinion of guilt on speculation.

Then sterotype anyone who flags this to be a danger.

Trespass=crime unless it comes out that there was some altercation at the residence

reply to post by HenryTwoTimes



i would do the same thing!!!
cops out here ALWAYS...ALWAYS go too far and get away with this and more every day...

reply to post by HenryTwoTimes



Good on the man for protecting his rights, his family, and his extended family (the dogs)

He told the police officer to get off his property without a warrant. One with half a brain can clearly understand this officer was refuzing, and giving forcefull (and unlawfull) orders to the occupant.

Allready fired up, extreamly pissed off some redneck police officer is in his house screaming orders (and dont you think they're well mannerd either, they're trained to verbaly assault you as well) - With someone calling you a useless # and a wifebasher (examples of what the officer would have been shouting at the occupant) - if you were in that situation, you'd be aggrivated, distressed and extreamly protective of yourself, you do afterall have some stranger whom thinks their king # screaming insults in you're face demanding you do # which you know you dont have to do, hell, you know that he has no right to be on you're property. You told them to get the # out and come back with a warrant, yet they stay and continue to order you around and scream.

The second, a person in that situation hears "Shoot the dogs" over the radio, their first instinct would be to react to protect their dogs. Which this man did.


Why the # do you people think you can run around poking and prodding at a bear trap and expect it not to go off? Because this is exactly what these police officers are doing. They are the power, you are the annoying citizen which they have to put in line every day. Everything they do is an assualt on you're freedoms, they want us trained well, as in letting them walk all over us, treat us like dirt, subhuman even, without any backlash or questioning or resistance. That is how they expect us to act. That is how they want us to act.

That is what they're getting with retards defending the cops.



And to Blaine91555


Have you ever owned a pet dog? God you're a fool.

If a dog loves you, like its obvious these two did their owner, they can sense when you're upset. They can sense when you're physicaly sick. They can sense when you're happy. They can sense when you're feeling threatend, just like they can sense earthquakes. If you say this to be false, then thankyou for proving my point.

These dogs knew their owner was extreamly pissed off and threatend, coupled with a stranger being in their house, who's obviously the cause of their owner's feelings of being threatend and angry - they'll bark their lil tails off to support you. To intimidate and inscite fear into the one/thing that is causing the problem.



Big noise - perhaps an argument - is called in by some nosy neigbors. Police rock up - They dont want them sticking their nose in - its a matter between those family members. There was obviously no foul when it comes to the reason the cops were called out there - or they'd have posted that the guy who shot the cop was also a wife/child beater within a heartbeat.

Private family argument. Nosy neigbors get cops involved. Family wants the matter to stay inside the family, as the cops arnt needed, nor wanted, to intrude on it. Cop is told to leave. Cop does not, starts trying to be the boss, demanding stuff and hurling insults and basicly getting the guy fired up so he did something which would allow him to be carted off in teh back of the paddywagon. Guy defends his dogs when he hears the pig's bos's order him to shoot his furry comanions.

I hope he enjoyed the taste of buckshot as he died. Bastard deserved every shard he got.

reply to post by Haxsaw

I dont like cops, but no cop deserves to be shot dead because he pointed a stun gun at what was probably a dog appearing as though it wanted to attack him. Put the trigger happy psycho behind bars for life.

From the article:

In police custody, the alleged gunman, 46-year-old George Hitcho Jr, said he had told Mr Lasso to get off his property and not come on unless he had a warrant, authorities said....'He tried to kill my dogs and pointed a gun in my face,' Hitcho said, according to the documents. 'I do not care if you a cop or not ...Unbelievable.'...Police Chief George Bruneio, who arrived after Mr Lasso requested assistance, instructed him to 'shoot the dogs' and that's when the homeowner pulled out a shotgun and fired, authorities said.

The cop was on a mans property without a warrant, and he pointed a tazer at both the mans face and then at his dogs with the intentions to shoot them at the request of the police chief.

The cop didn't have a warrant, so what right did he have to taze this mans dogs and possibly kill them?

The cop and his police chief were the trigger happy ones, I mean shooting dogs with a tazer? That's messed up, I sure as hell wouldn't lay down with my hands behind my back if a cop came onto my property without a warrant and tried to taze and potentially kill my dog, hell no.

Originally posted by Blaine91555



Sounds like the Dogs were dangerous which screams at me they were abused to make them dangerous.

Speculation outside of the facts mentioned. Never mind the fact that this statement is false.

Only very sick and mentally disturbed people do that to their animals,

Supporting facts?

not to mention this idiot shot a Cop, who was no doubt there because the person is a criminal in the first place.

Circular logic.

When anyone abuses dogs to make them dangerous, if they are shot its the dogs owners fault, not the shooter.

My dogs are not trained to be violent, but they will protect me and my family, and have done so before.

The simple truth is that this jerk needs to spend the rest of his life in prison and anyone who sides with him is a danger to civil society and should be watched carefully.

Hey now. You sound like the federal government. All those people who support constitutional rights are dangerous and should be watched carefully.

You have to be way out there to take his side.

I am personally taking the side of freedom and rights.

Where that leads, may not always be politically correct, but it is ALWAYS the right thing to do.

Had he controlled his animals they would be alive. Put the blame where it truly belongs on the dogs owner.

And on the converse, if the officer would have followed the law he is supposed to uphold and enforce, he would still be alive.

But let's leave the facts out of it and blame secondary characters in the story.

reply to post by malachi777


First off, your response is disrespectful and probably a general indicator of not only your intelligence, but your personal integrity.

That being said, the circumstances make all the difference. A pitt bull attacking a child and a dog defending his territory against an actual threat are not the same thing.

Shoot my dog on my property and you will likely being visiting the morgue as a guest.
Lets just say we're close. Dogs are family members, just like a police dog is considered a cop.

Cops have proved repeatedly that they are a danger to the public and likely to inflict injury upon innocent persons without cause at any time, without warning. To me this makes them a legitimate threat to my family's safety.



For this reason a cop without a warrant that has not observed a crime being committed or have reasonable probable cause to think one has occurred cannot enter onto the property of another without his permission

reply to post by Blaine91555

So from the flag count, there are 23 potential Cop Killers on ATS? Imagine that.

Yes, because flagging a news story definitely means that we are potential murderers.

Sounds like the Dogs were dangerous which screams at me they were abused to make them dangerous. Only very sick and mentally disturbed people do that to their animals, not to mention this idiot shot a Cop, who was no doubt there because the person is a criminal in the first place. When anyone abuses dogs to make them dangerous, if they are shot its the dogs owners fault, not the shooter.

WOW, you were all over the place. So the information is the cop was going to taze the dogs, and you take that and conclude that the dogs were dangerous and abused by a mentally disturbed criminal? Keep up the good work.

The simple truth is that this jerk needs to spend the rest of his life in prison and anyone who sides with him is a danger to civil society and should be watched carefully. You have to be way out there to take his side.

I take his side. The cop did not have a warrant, yet came onto the mans property with the intentions to taze and possibly kill his dogs. If the cop had a warrant, and the dogs charged at him with the owner saying "Sick 'em boys!", then yeah, it would be screwed up. But a cop unlawfully coming onto a mans property, then attempting to taze his dogs at the request of the police chief is not right, and this guy is justified in shooting the cop.

Both sides have a good arguement here. Lemon-Fresh has done well defending the Constitutional rights point with this issue. I completely understand what he is trying to say. It seems like every single day our Liberties are being taken away from us in the name of national Security or emotionalism. I know Law Enforcement crosses the boundaries of their powers frequently, without a doubt in regards to domestic disputes. However, I just can't stand the thought of this Officer losing his life for such a stupid reason. It's just a shame. ~SheopleNation

To anyone who might be interested, if you come on my property uninvited with the intentions of committing an act of violence and you have no legal right to do so, I'll stop you. Armed with a handgun, you're a deadly threat.

The whole thing could be avoided if cops would respect the law and the constitution, but as it is now we much each be mindful of the possibility we may have our homes invaded and be killed for no reason by the police.

Don't taze my dog, bro.

Sounds like he walked into an already heated, passionate situation.
Emotions can really be crazy.

The police officer is a terrorist.Now, don't get offended by this, he was using fear to try to gain control of the situation. That is what a terrorist is defined as. The man who shot him is a murderer. The dog, however still remains innocent. I think the dogs reaction to the situation was completely rational from a dogs perspective. I do not, however, see a even semi-rational thought pattern to either of the human beings involved.

However, when you threaten the thing a man loves most, which in this case easily may have been the dog, humans have a tendency to act very irrational. I think both of them should have thought more before they acted.

The dog is the only one with an excuse for his actions in this situation.

reply to post by deadeyedick


No speculation. The dogs were posing a risk to the Officer and the Owner failed to deal with it. As to how dogs are made mean; how is that speculation? Mean dogs are made that way on purpose.

Question is, what type of person condones the killing of a Cop? People who are dangerous and belong in jail to protect society is the answer.

Both people who abuse animals to make them mean and those who applaud Cop Killers bother me and anyone else other than criminals and dangerous people. Flagging this thread is condoning Cop Killers.

We all know some Cops are bad, but most are not. A society without laws is only a thing that true Sociopaths would want.

If an animal is going to attack me, regardless about the circumstances, I am going to kill it with everything at my disposal.

Its that simple.

Pets can be replaced. Human beings cannot be replaced.

Regardless about everyone's opinion, the dogs were only stunned and a human being was murdered.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by deadeyedick

 

No speculation. The dogs were posing a risk to the Officer and the Owner failed to deal with it. As to how dogs are made mean; how is that speculation? Mean dogs are made that way on purpose.

Question is, what type of person condones the killing of a Cop? People who are dangerous and belong in jail to protect society is the answer.

Both people who abuse animals to make them mean and those who applaud Cop Killers bother me and anyone else other than criminals and dangerous people. Flagging this thread is condoning Cop Killers.

We all know some Cops are bad, but most are not. A society without laws is only a thing that true Sociopaths would want.

Your logic is seriously flawed and your track of thought is totally irrational. Your just as mentally unstable as the ideals you impose on others in society. You're also totally clueless about dogs and their behavior.

reply to post by Blaine91555


Dare i say you stand alone with your ignorance.I sure hope so.
In my opinion you may gain some clarity by reading the entire thread and giving the ole constitution a good look through.

Link:: Police officer shot dead

'Robert, he was so good,' said his mother, Elsie Stem. 'He was so loved, especially by his kids. Now they have to grow up without a daddy...'

Owner's dogs were only stunned.

Now the Cop's kids will have to live without a father, for some homeowner couldn't exercise common sense.

reply to post by Section31

Owner's dogs were only stunned.

Now the Cop's kids will have to live without a father, for some homeowner couldn't exercise common sense.

That's a nice emotional appeal, but it doesn't change the fact that the cop was about to taze his dogs after unlawfully entering his property without a warrant.

How do we know what a tazer would do to a dog? It can kill people in certain situations, so obviously the effect will be much stronger on a 40 lb dog.

reply to post by deadeyedick


naw, he ain't alone on this.

read my posts here.

blaine is right on.