The Ultimate Truth? Here is my take on everything.

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Hey guys I've been thinking about this forever. So I guess I'll vent my current views on, pretty much everything. I apologize for the length, I have a lot to let out. Before you continue on, please do so with an open mind.

The Fear Agenda

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I have been starting to feel like I have been waking up. Waking up to this dream we have draped over our faces. You go to the store and see all these ridiculous tabloids that are centered around ridiculous gossip. Then you turn on the news and they talk about raising crime rates even though the crime rates are at an all time low.

As I stop watching the news and giving a # about stupid gossip I have definitely started changing. I'm starting to look into things i'd probably never think about like the Mayans and other ancient civilizations and the universe. Thousands of people die every day from starvation.

An average of 62 Americans die a year from terrorism related activity while 450,000 die a year from heart disease. Yet we all hate terrorists and give not one # about the staggering amount of people dying from preventable problems. So many people are ignorant about what really matters.

It feels to me that this terrorism stuff is just a scare tactic to keep us from thinking about the real issues. It's staggering how much money is spent on military defense compared to scientific research.

Reality

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How can we possibly define reality? Reality is defined as anything that has existed or does exist. If I imagine a huge spaceship than that spaceship exists in my imagination.

Wouldn't that imaginary spaceship, since it exists, be a part of reality? Every time you have a dream, isn't that world, even if imaginary, existent? Or at least existed for that time you were dreaming in it?

I have these weird experiences (especially at school) where I stare off to something and have no thoughts at all and I almost pass out. Those experiences are part of what make me question reality. (This has happened a few times). If anyone knows why that happens to me, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

The Spiritual Awakening and 2012(Apocalypse)

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I know 2012 has been massacred to death by all kinds of theories but I think that if anything it will be a spiritual awakening. I've researched into Mayans a lot and plenty of other things regarding 2012 and I feel like it will be a spiritual awakening. I've been feeling more and more like something big is going to happen and a mass extinction doesn't seem right.

The universe and everything it contains exists for a reason. Why? I have absolutely no idea. But I feel like we are close to finding out. I don't follow a particular religion of belief set but I am on the spiritual side. I feel like their are things out there that can't be heard or seen, only felt.

The Truth

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I think we have all been drawn away from the real truths and amazing capabilities we as humans have. I have had amazing experiences that defy anything a News channel or a tabloid can possibly give. Life is so beautiful don't waste it away.

Go out and do something. Help the world and it's inhabitants. Make your own truth and don't let someone on CBS tell you how things are. The world is so beautiful but so many of us get caught up in this ridiculous society and it's ridiculous way of operating we forget to stop and look at everything.

So, I guess this brings me to the conclusion. If you take anything out of this have it be that you are YOU and nobody can take that away. We are all beautiful individuals. We all are the same and should work together to help each other. We all are able to think for ourselves and choose our own path. Don't let it be contaminated and diluted by others greedy gains.

Thanks for taking the time to read all of this madness and I wish everyone luck on finding The Ultimate Truth.

The mind is everything. What you think you become.

Cool post, thanks for sharing your ideas.

Fear mongering is defiantly holding a large group of 'us' back. I believe something is happening for the good, maybe because we are out of balance.

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The mind is infinite without fear.

I know 2012 has been massacred to death by all kinds of theories but I think that if anything it will be a spiritual awakening. I've researched into Mayans a lot and plenty of other things regarding 2012 and I feel like it will be a spiritual awakening. I've been feeling more and more like something big is going to happen and a mass extinction doesn't seem right.

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I totally agree with everything you said, especially the above quote. It really makes you wonder about the agenda at hand and why we are going the opposite direction we should be going.....in regards to everything we know...really.

I too have awoken from a slumber only to find out the Truth is not that pretty as my above statements will attest to. Its really strange but I welcome a spiritual growth or something to happen where we will begin to place footsteps on the road to where peace is had.

This world we live in is a beautiful one...where beautiful beings reside. The ones who keep us in the dark and take us on a road we do not want to be on is ....for me.... SAD!

What would the world be like if we were sent into the dark ages once again only to rely on our intuition for survival. I would miss my "stuff" but I think we would be better off. Otherwise I would like to see a world where technology does not ruin us as a species.....like it is doing.

Good thread!!!

Peace and love to you and yours!!!! xoxoox

Jenn

Thank you for the post. I like the idea of offering the music to listen to while reading. And writing. I'm still listening.
Opps , the music is ending. See ya

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775 people have been killed in drone attacks. 160 children. Don't see NBC covering that. I'm flying my flag upside down.

A very thought provoking thread

It seems like fear halts the evolution process and we have yet to overcome that fear. I look at 2012 for us to have that self-realization moment and move on from that point with our eyes on the stars rather than on the price of a new pair of Jordans. Most of us are too engrossed in materialistic possessions and fitting an image that society perpetuates. We are a young species and have a ways to go.

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Agreed. When people start caring about the important things the world will truly be a better place.

Great thread and spot on. We all hold the power inside ourselves but we have been programmed to believe that there is no such thing. Great music and to prove your point, just look at the video you link to. Can you imagine the fear this individual had to overcome to fly a balloon to the edge of space and then bail? What a dreamer and a hero in my opinion.

Originally posted by IEtherianSoul9
A very thought provoking thread

It seems like fear halts the evolution process and we have yet to overcome that fear. I look at 2012 for us to have that self-realization moment and move on from that point with our eyes on the stars rather than on the price of a new pair of Jordans. Most of us are too engrossed in materialistic possessions and fitting an image that society perpetuates. We are a young species and have a ways to go.

I know.....its all about keeping up with trends, going further into debt, and watching dancing with the stars to feed the distractions. TPTB are not ones to follow...they should be the minority but we have been conditioned for many years now and follow right along as if we are robots!!! Its sad really!

I hope we have the self realization sooner than later. If it comes like many say it is in 2012 I welcome it!! Even at my own expense....I would welcome a change for the better for future generations.

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Thanks a lot.(:
The human world has potential. Truly amazing potential.

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I agreed with most of what you said until you reached the parts about dreams, 2012 and so on.
I still don't get why anyone believes in 2012 when even the Mayan ancestors are convinced nothing is going to happen.

Nothing will change if we sit on our ass waiting for "spiritual awakening" to happen.

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Cool post.

In my experience Reality = Truth = God = Love. These words in their purest understanding are all the same thing.

Essentially most people occupy space and time in non-Reality. They are neither true nor real.

The process of awakening is akin to aligning one's concept of self with the single one God, which is truth and reality. And this process, in Reality, would be better understood as traveling from God/Reality to self, rather than from self to Reality. More like God piercing non-Reality in your own personal experience.

Our ability to become Real is measured by our fear(absence of Love/God). Because most people define themselves by fear. Letting go of our identity of fear can be difficult, but is in fact the only true experience we can have. Everything else is... fake.

In Reality (which is Truth), there is no delusion and there is no fear. Because these things are not real. It is a great mystery to me how these things can seemingly exist and not be real at the same time. But if you experience God/Reality/Truth you will notice the absence of these things. They literally do not exist. I'm sure some scientist can better explain this as turbulence or something of the underlying universal pattern (God).

I understand many people have a problem with someone claiming these things in fact mean the same thing. But if you explore each of them, their definitions even, you will find they all point to or are used to define each other.

Defining God, or Love, or Reality or Truth are all equally difficult tasks.. because they all share the same undefinable characteristics.

In terms of actively waking up..the things you touched on are well documented practices to help one live in Reality which is Truth. ie: loving and helping people. Because what this does is force your attention off of your self. Other methods include meditation/prayer and fasting. But truly and in Reality, Loving is the number one way to wake up to God.

Originally posted by MamaJ

Originally posted by IEtherianSoul9
Even at my own expense....I would welcome a change for the better for future generations.

if you associate yourself outside of love, then there will be a cost. Because the false self is the thing that must be let go of. In in the "end times" it is this false self that is force-ably destroyed.

And please i am not suggesting you associate yourself outside of Love. Personally i know i do.. and the difficult task of letting this false self go is a real pain.. This is where my anticipation of an "end time" or "new beginning" comes into play. Most do not want to associate with a false self or fear and would really love someone to just peel it off them.. whatever the cost. But in Reality there is no cost. It's like losing weight.. ;')

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Are you christian? I still have trouble fathoming a ultimate being that created everything. I'm havimg trouble believing the whole bible story. Especially when you consider the bible was written by humans, it immediately becomes no too reliable. Especially after all the translations and versions.

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Once again i said if ANYTHING does happen.(;
And I didn't just mean 2012 I meant the apocalypse(whenever that may be). And i'm definitely not sitting around so please don't say I am. I've been on a spiritual journey for years now.(:

You know, I think I have given up hope of humanity changing its ways.
I watch/read the news, watch television. I look around and I see nothing but egotistical hedonists in control of our government and among the general population.
"If your happy that's all that matters." No it does not. Especially not when it causes others to suffer.
Over-obesity is prevalent among most western countries, while people starve to death in many countries in the world. Obesity to me is sinful, especially if another person is starving.
And you know what happens when people try to send aid to these starving people in other countries? Most of the time it is the tribes that are at war with the sovereign in power. The sovereign sells the food (Because they technically own the food that gets sent for aid) and buys weapons to use in their war against the tribe the aid was sent for in the first place. It would be better off for these people if the aid wasn't sent.
We see politicians in power that don't give one care about the population that voted them in. They don't care that they are in debt. Nope they keep on spending. IF THERE IS A RECESSION YOU SHOULD BE CUTTING NOT SPENDING MORE. Oh and when they do cut, does it come out the bureaucratic mess, the administration? No it comes from the bottom.
I see a population that cares more about following celebrities and pop culture than they do about politicians and politics.
And don't get me started on the obsession with monetary wealth.

Seeing all this, and more, makes me so furious.
But slowly I am finding yy fury is being replaced by apathy.
I see no probable way for the path we are on to change.
It possible, but the odds are slow to to basically to next to zero.
I forget who said it, but "Only worry about what you can change. Worrying about what you can not is an exercise in futility." Or something along those lines.
Maybe i'm a pessimist. But life has made me a that way.

My only consolation is that with the way we are wrecking our environment and starting wars most of the population will be dead soon. Either due to extreme heat around the equator and extreme cold as one gets closer to the Arctic and Antarctic during the winter. Massive flooding due to the polar ice caps melting. And of course nuclear fallout cause more than likely my the next world war.
I feel humans will survive and maybe we can rebuild, hopefully in a more constructive way.
Though with my luck, TPTB will survive, regain control, and once again lead humans down a path of destruction.

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You can't blame it on some rich guys. Blame it on society. Without a monetary system and ego-political world those rich assholes wouldn't exist. A man can't live in greed by his own wit but has to witness greed to decide to excercise it. And don't be so down and gloomy. More and more independent media sources are coming out and the GP is becoming informed. It only takes one person to change a nation, and in result, the world. Many americans, more than half disagree with the Iraq war. Through proper education the world will change. Opression only lasts as long as the population is ignorant.

Originally posted by Se7enex
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Are you christian? I still have trouble fathoming a ultimate being that created everything. I'm havimg trouble believing the whole bible story. Especially when you consider the bible was written by humans, it immediately becomes no too reliable. Especially after all the translations and versions.

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Hmm i don't really label myself a Christian. But i don't mind the label. Why do you ask?

being [ˈbiːɪŋ]
n
1. the state or fact of existing; existence

Like i was saying i literally believe these words mean the same thing. Which is useful when trying to understand how we are all connected to what is Real. An Ultimate BEING does exist and all it means is the existence our own being is born from.. Or created.. You could say where our existence exists. I don't believe in God, just like i don't believe in Reality. I KNOW Reality is the only thing that exists. Even though like most, i am often realizing my own delusion which tells me otherwise.

reality
1. the state of things as they are or appear to be, rather than as one might wish them to be
2. something that is real
3. the state of being real

The state of existing real.. what other state is there?

Don't get hung up on any interpretation of Reality. If someone is asking you to believe in something then you probably should reject it unless you experience it as Real and True. You are questioning what you perceive. That's a good thing. If bible translations don't jive with you then you should investigate or simply dismiss the untrue mind constructs. Your interpretation (of the interpretations) of the bible exists in your thoughts, and it's those thoughts that should be dismissed if they aren't real.

truth:
5.
a. Reality; actuality.
b. often Truth That which is considered to be the supreme reality and to have the ultimate meaning and value of existence.

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Cool thread Se7enex,

That is exactly how I perceive things, it's only through observing and learning through experience should one come to such a conclusion.

I agree, fear is a limitation that hinders you from becoming the infinite being you already are.

"The truth is in the mind of the beholder and your reality is what you make of it."

We conspiracy theorist, see the world totally differently from the average person and that basically is our reality as we see it.

I might even say, great minds think alike...

SnF