Peoples lack of understanding regarding a 'pole shift'

I was reading a thread yesterday where someone mentioned that if we had a pole shift the land would move so fast that people in underground bunkers would be wiped out anyway. Then a bunch of people were arguing about what depth these bunkers would be where they wouldnt be affected. LOL

The thing is when a pole shifts, its just the magnetic poles, the land doesnt twist round and suddenly antarctica is in the North and Santa Claus wakes up in a different hemisphere!

reply to post by Idonthaveabeard


I really hope you are joking that people believe that! Please link to the thread. I hope people do some a little bit of research and realize that pole shift isn't talking about the land actually moving! It's obviously Nibiru!

ps- I bet you DO in fact, have a beard.

From wikipedia

The cataclysmic pole shift hypothesis suggests that there have been geologically rapid shifts in the relative positions of the modern-day geographic locations of the poles and the axis of rotation of the Earth, creating calamities such as floods and tectonic events.[1] No form of the hypothesis is accepted amongst the scientific community. There is evidence of precession and changes in axial tilt, but this change is on much longer time-scales and does not involve relative motion of the spin axis with respect to the planet. However, in what is known as true polar wander, the solid Earth can rotate with respect to a fixed spin axis. Research shows that during the last 200 million years a total true polar wander of some 30° has occurred, but that no super-rapid shifts in the Earth's pole were found during this period.[2] A characteristic rate of true polar wander is 1° per million years or less.[3] Between approximately 790 and 810 million years ago, when the supercontinent Rodinia existed, two geologically-rapid phases of true polar wander may have occurred. In each of these, the Earth rotated ~55°.[4]

It should be noted that while magnetic pole shifts occur every year they have increased recently to around 40 miles a year.

reply to post by Idonthaveabeard


"Pole shift" is colloquial. That means its usage isn't well-defined. "Pole shift" means two things. The first, of course, is what you described - a shifting or reversal of the magnetic poles. The second is what they were talking about - a shifting of the crust.
Both are legitimately called a "pole shift".
Though, technically, the first should be called a Polar Wandering (also, a Geomagnetic Reversal would refer to regular field reversals over time); the second, which they were talking about, should be referred to as Crustal Displacement.

It would certainly be easier if we made the distinction between Crustal Displacement and Geomagnetic Reversals. Plenty of people have been confused by the generality of a "pole shift".

reply to post by Idonthaveabeard

I very nearly posted something on the same thread you're referring to, for the same thing that got your goat.

I just want to say something on this whole topic. There is a lot happening out there right now, and only a small % of it is visible through the media. If one isn't actively working and I mean WORKING like it's a job, to find this stuff...people will probably find out as physical events unfold and it's far too late to do a thing to help themselves. I'm not the one to be an authority on these things, but the FOUR (thats 4...not 1) comets and asteroids we'll be seeing in the sky within the coming weeks is part of it, but there's more...Time is definitely too short to be carrying bad information on the basic ways these things will happen around us. Yikes..

Originally posted by Idonthaveabeard
I was reading a thread yesterday where someone mentioned that if we had a pole shift the land would move so fast that people in underground bunkers would be wiped out anyway. Then a bunch of people were arguing about what depth these bunkers would be where they wouldnt be affected. LOL

The thing is when a pole shifts, its just the magnetic poles, the land doesnt twist round and suddenly antarctica is in the North and Santa Claus wakes up in a different hemisphere!

Exactly! star and flag for you.

But the even more funny part is that there are no signs of any magnetic shift happening anytime soon. The magnetic field has been lower many times in the past without any shift occurring and the timing of these polar shifts are entirely random.
It could happen in nearish future or it could happen in millions of years from now.

Originally posted by superman2012
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I really hope you are joking that people believe that! Please link to the thread. I hope people do some a little bit of research and realize that pole shift isn't talking about the land actually moving! It's obviously Nibiru!

ps- I bet you DO in fact, have a beard.

edit on 14-8-2011 by superman2012 because: (no reason given)

Even though I have no links, I can definitely say he is not joking, as I have seen such threads and posts here myself.
Even our "friend" Alex Jones posted a video claiming that a pole shift would completely tilt the planet.

Magnetic or geographical pole shift?

Some say the MAGNETIC pole shift caused the dinosaurs to die off (no not fly upside down and crash). due to their dependance on the magnetic pole, but humans are not as affected by it, or adapted.

I'm no professor or scientist, but it seems to me that during and immediately after a magnetic pole shift, the stresses on every Earthquake fault across Earth will change almost instantly. Those with no stress? Probably no biggy, I'd think. I sure wouldn't want to live next to one that hasn't popped off in a long long time though. Oh..wait..I live near the New Madrid. nvm

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I'm no professor or scientist, but it seems to me that during and immediately after a magnetic pole shift, the stresses on every Earthquake fault across Earth will change almost instantly. Those with no stress? Probably no biggy, I'd think. I sure wouldn't want to live next to one that hasn't popped off in a long long time though. Oh..wait..I live near the New Madrid. nvm

Like OP said.. It only affects the magnetic pole, so there is no way it is going to have any effects on fault zones.
Pole shifts aren't even linked to any mass extinction events.

Relatively speaking, pole shifts are quite common, the biggest risk when one occurs is damage to our ozone layer, because there is virtually no protection from the sun by the megnetic field.

Pole shift is one of those things thrown around mostly by people that have zero clue what either pole shift is or does. In the conspiracy related forums its another item in a long list of the doom we face in 2012, likely caused by HAARP, indicated by birds falling from the sky, rumbling noises with no storm in sight, controlled by the powers to be, for population reduction–(which seems to be counterproductive for powers to be to steal wealth from, ie. less workers)– and ancient construction that must have been aided by aliens that seem to have some interest in our world yet remain hidden without a trace.

Over in the political forums you likely never see pole shifts, and especially the 9/11 forums which have the most polar stances of any. One simply isn't going to sway the opinion in those two arenas. But over in the psychology forums bipolar shifting is much more apt to be observed.

I always wondered why one can't start a poll thread here, curious if you ask me.

But seriously the funniest alarm the ill informed have about a pole shift they site is they also think what it would be like to suddenly slide around the world at, get this, 500 mph and the sun rising in the west. LOL, I almost had a bird when I read that, hilarious on several layers. Just think what the migrating birds would do!

I think out of all the disasters predicted on here, a pole shift is probably the most likely to happen.

Originally posted by JennaDarling


Some say the MAGNETIC pole shift caused the dinosaurs to die off (no not fly upside down and crash). due to their dependance on the magnetic pole, but humans are not as affected by it, or adapted.

Who?

The dinsoaurs died out over millions of years, though the Chicxulub impact and Deccan traps eruptions hastened their demise towards the end. Over that time there would have been magnetic pole shifts as they always has been. There is no evidence of any minor, let alone with major, extinction event in association with any known magnetic reversal.

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I wasn't referring to the land physically shifting position...just the stresses that might change if the entire planet's magnetic field flipped. Like I said, this isn't a subject I'm well read in at all... I'll figure I've got more reading to do if I've misunderstood how huge shifts in magnetism can effect a stress point like a quake fault this badly.

reply to post by superman2012

The possible coming polar shift has nothing to do with the magnetic north and south poles; they are shifting all the time, daily. The polar shift is a change of our world's polar axis. This has happened at least three times in the past that we know of. Each recorded time the polar axis has shifted 20 degrees or more. The reason this is to be feared is the fact that when the polar axis shifts, the equator will also shift in equal amount. The equator is always 90 degrees from the spin axis of the earth. The 500 foot bulge of water at the equator will then rush to its new point of equalibrium with a huge tsunami rushing north on one side of the world, and south on the other side of the world. This is not fantasy. It is simple physics. If the polar axis moves to a new location, the consequences are inevitable.