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Hadn't noticed it. Thoguht it was just respect for someone putting their life on the line for the concept of defending you and I. (whether they're actually doing it, i know different people have different opinions on that matter) ...
Originally posted by minesweeper
reply to post by imitator
Did wikileaks provide government leader head documents or was this just here say? I ask cause I haven’t heard of this before and I wasn’t really aware of an conspiracies about the gulf war other than post war illnesses. Sounds interesting, I’d hate to think that the last legitimate war we’ve been involved in was WW2. By the way love your avatar.
Who is 'we'?
Are you military man? I doubt you are.
Why don't you go down to the VA and tell some of those men they weren't in a war. Tell them how being a civilian you know all about war and how they weren't in one. Then tell us how that goes over (once you are all healed up of course).
Originally posted by m1991
Personally, I find that the show has bent a bit towards the mainstream... which is disappointing. But I don't see the militarism and I have no problem with nationalism whatsoever.
What can I say... I like red meats, fat ceegars, cold beer, subjects of the paranormal and being an American.
My problem with nationalism is that imo it's wrong to consider people of your own nation more important than other people. It's basically the same conceptually as racism and it's one of the main reasons war exists. There's no logical reason to consider Americans more important than Europeans or Africans or whatever. At least if you're talking about your family and putting them first it makes sense based on the fact they are biologically programmed to care more about you.
With that said, there's nothing wrong with loving your country. I just don't think any country is worth dying or killing for. Culture is great and all but in the end it's a material thing.
Originally posted by Ittabena
reply to post by Exuberant1
Who is 'we'?
Are you military man? I doubt you are.
Why don't you go down to the VA and tell some of those men they weren't in a war. Tell them how being a civilian you know all about war and how they weren't in one. Then tell us how that goes over (once you are all healed up of course).
Much as I dislike the "oh yeah" attitude of this post, there is a grain of truth to what he says. Most of the guys who serve in the military do not know they have been hoodwinked until they get there and see what is actually going on. Many of the guys going into the military today are doing so because it is the only way for them to earn a decent income. Still others yet cling to the idea that we are promoting freedom, instead of the reality that we are there militarily to further corporate interests. This may not have been too bad a motivation in the early days of war but now that all these same corporations have removed their jobs from our shore, this is a dedication which is obviously one sided now.