Starchild Skull - Video

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by ThinkingCap

 

It's called Hydrocephalus.

The poor child probably suffered for the few years it was alive.

As long as it make Pye rich though, it doesn't matter.

edit on 14/8/11 by Chadwickus because: (no reason given)

It is absolutely NOT Hydrocephalus. Lloyd Pye has PROVEN this over and over. I've emailed him back and forth many times on this subject. What it like likely is, is Progeria. I've presented this as an argument several times to Mr. Pye, and he still hasn't made and acceptable rebuttal other than, just wait for the next round of DNA tests to come out, that will prove that it isn't any type of deformity. Personally, I think that there is a possibility that there is something more to the skull than just a deformity, but I'd like to see some actual proof that my suspicions are founded in logic and reason. Unfortunately, I don't think that Lloyd Pye is the right guy to do it, as he's obviously taking advantage of the find for financial gain and to promote his ridiculous books.

This is a very touchy subject, and regardless of whether you believe in aliens or not, you SHOULD be looking for a terrestrial explanation. We can prove that it is terrestrial fairly easily, but proving otherwise would be much more difficult. This is because multiple studies of the specimen must be undertaken, and the results must all conclude the same thing. It doesn't look like any reputable organizations are interested in pursuing this at the moment, at least to my knowledge.

It is possible that the skull came from some extinct race that has yet to be mapped via DNA, but there are problems with this hypothesis. 900 years is not very long ago, especially on evolutionary terms. Remember that the two bodies were found, one holding on the arm of the other. This leads me to believe that the Starchild skull wasn't an ancient skull that was subsequently discovered and reburied 900 years ago. I think it is obvious to most where I am going with this idea, so I will move on.

Another problem is the fact that despite all of the various races of the human species found around the globe, they remain relatively similar in certain aspects, and some of these characteristics are not found on the skull in question. What does this mean? Could it be a genetic disease that has since been eradicated? That is the best idea I can come up with at this time, but it is probably wrong, and I also do not believe it.

Another problem is that no other similar specimens have been found. This is strange in my opinion, considering the heavy archaeological excavations over centuries in the surrounding areas, and if there were a population of this unknown race I would expect that more would have been found. This lends credence to the deformities being caused by some type of disease, however there are no known human diseases that can account for all of the oddities found in the Starchild skull. There is no way around that in my opinion.

If it were a genetic disease, even an old one, I would have expected there to be more than one specimen found, considering that ascending generations would have inherited it. This may not be the case if it were very old, as we know that there are very few remains found of extremely old species, which may mean that this skull was not human, but from a different species. The problem with this idea however is that it is not old enough.

Just with the evidence I have described above, a picture starts to form. Now let it be known that I am very skeptical of the idea that aliens are or have been visiting Earth, but I am able to put my biases aside when searching for an answer, but I will still vociferously attempt to exhaust all terrestrial scientific explanations before even considering a conclusion that involves aliens.

The picture that starts to form tells me that the evidence is conflicting. I do not know exactly how to interpret this, but it would lead me in one particular direction, and this direction must be thoroughly pursued before going ANY further. That direction is that of a hoax. I do not mean that the skull is a hoax, but that the results of the tests are not entirely accurate...This could be a deliberate hoax, OR more likely, a testing error somewhere along the way.

I know that some may not want to hear this, but it needs to be eliminated if you wish to strengthen your case. There must be multiple independent tests carried out on this specimen. I would like to bring up the fact that the amount of money being sought to carry out these tests is quite substantial, which also needs to be explored. Is it this costly to perform these types of tests? If the answer is yes, then fine, I have no problems with that. However, if this is not the case, I would think that someone knows the end is near and wishes to cash out.

Please note that I am not saying this is the case definitively, but again, ALL avenues need to be explored if we wish to get to the bottom of this mystery. This is the only way cases like this can be solved...by the process of elimination. If multiple independent confirmations of the legitimacy of the skull via dna testing can be produced, that would be great. But even if this is the case, the other possibilities will still have to be eliminated.

Sorry if I missed anything, or if I overlooked flaws in my logic, but I really do believe that what I am saying is the best way to proceed, and is the truth.

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reply to post by Motumz
Take some photos of all your black triangles and post them. While your at it, you could post the footage you apparently have of the conception of 'starchild.' You could send it to Lloyd Pye and save him all the money he's always short of these 20 years.

You're a walking, posting 'disclosure' all by yourself. Post your evidence and let's put an end to the UFO mystery.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Tremendous response.

For those of you who saw the 'Geneticist's' response, star'd and moved on (and, it appears many did), you may want to go back to this rebuttal.

Check and mate, degreed Geneticist, or not.

*'d,

reply to post by neonitus


You are merely regurgitating the same slop that was said over a decade ago, without realizing that much more - although still, ultimately inconclusive - information has come out about the skull in recent years.

It is not a 100% human skull nor is it hydrocephalus - these have been ruled out, definitively.

I may have a quote of his in my sig (which is true, regardless of your thoughts of the man), but I'm still not sure where I stand on the whole subject - much remains to be seen. But, I know it is not pivotal (or damaging, as you suggest) to ufology or any other area that has not gained mainstream acceptance, yet.

And, as far as 'doing it for money'?! I love it when people use this one.

Do you people realize what it takes to pursue something with this much vigor that you are passionate about?

It takes a lot of money and a lot of guts. Some people with great ideas (whether you think this is one, or not) go to great lengths to build the evidence they need to make an argument to convince the masses. Sometimes these 'lengths' are expensive - in this case we're talking very unique and expensive, and that's just for starters. He may not have the funds to support the research, and to that end, if he is turning out to be more and more correct - or more to the point, not proven wrong yet - why SHOULD he be expected to?

So, he needs to raise money to assist his research and life (travel, board, room, etc) - understandable.

But, you know what is more on the line than money? His/their reputation(s). The risk that guys like this take is never being taken serious (by, people who will not even hear the evidence (or new(er) evidence) - huge when discussing a 'science' that is not considered 'mainstream' yet, nevermind the strain this may have on family / friendship bonds. Way more on the line here, than money.

Besides, do you really think he has a second home in Hawaii? Or, 6 cars in the garage? Or, is off galavanting in far away paradises with pimp hats, wine filled jugs, with oodles of money dripping from every orifice? I seriously doubt it.

But, while we're on the subject of money for a second, someone answer me this: If Lloyd Pye and the Starchild Skull are such a shill and a fake, respectively, then why hasn't someone else just come forward supporting this side of the house, and funded the necessary research so that we can finally get to the bottom of this and shut Pye Up?!

edit on 8/15/2011 by SquirrelNutz because: (no reason given)