Is this for real? Russian news channel spills the beans about the existence of Nibiru and 2012?

This is an entertaining time to live in. I love reading everyones differences of opinion. To me things have felt strange last couple years, not overboard paranoia that effects life, enough to have me at least gather all the info I can.

As time goes on and things start to become visible to the masses, is something I'm anxious to see how it is handled. Will it effect us, I don't think so but I do not know so. All I know is there are things that support certain prophecies and there are things that doesn't.

I think people need to just be open minded and keep tabs every now and then on the situations that are clearly here. I still have NOT come to a 100% conclusion on what I truly believe into 2011,2012,2029, and every other current topic on end of days scenarios and prophecies.

Nice post though!

reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze


Phage: Those are Soho artfifacts....
I dont speak russian either,, but I clearly heard the words Nibru, Sitchen and other words that dont directly translate into Russian so they used the Anglo-version (english). But the photos and diagrams are the same that we have seen previously on ATS.

Originally posted by XplanetX

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
What is an explanation of insanity?
doing the same thing over an over and expecting different results?

While that is not the real definition, I must say this search into planet X
resembles that action..Insane

Do those of you that believe this x planet is a possibility, really think the Hundreds
of amateur astronomers GLOBALLY wouldnt be able to locate this object if it were real?

lets at least try to think logically here, we can see all the planets in our solar system..
Why can we not see this x planet..Maybe it is being cloaked by the alien race right?

Please try to process a real possibility..not mythology.

To assume a planet could not possibly enter our solar system undetected by amateur astronomers is folly considering the object can only be seen with an infrared telescope.

The main problem with this statement is it is just plain wrong.

No planet or brown dwarf would be invisible anywhere in the solar system. If it was as close as the people who perpetrate this myth say it is it would be extremely visible to everyone who looks up at night. It would reflect the light from the sun just like every planet in our solar system does.

It is convenient for this ignorant conspiracy though to say it can only be visible through infrared or it is approaching the earth from the south pole. That way the conspiracy can remain alive for as long as possible. Come on use those critical thinking skills, please!

Originally posted by XplanetX

I hope you are right, but I will prepare myself accordingly.

The Russians sure seem to think they need 5000 bunkers pronto.

You do realize that there are over 142,000,000 people living in Russia?

Originally posted by WideOpenSpace

Originally posted by XplanetX

I hope you are right, but I will prepare myself accordingly.

The Russians sure seem to think they need 5000 bunkers pronto.

You do realize that there are over 142,000,000 people living in Russia?

The numbers do not matter, what matters is that they have built 5000 underground bunkers and continue to do so.
What matters is why?
Also it seems to me that at least they are doing something, and yes it's totally unrealistic to think they can protect the whole population.
People live then people breed.......pretty simple if you ask me.
Regards, Iwinder

I speak russian and they clearly say that we should get to the ozarks, before the jews come and take our gold as an offering to the annunaki. but we can fool the jews and reptiles by instead bringing silver.

there is a person in this very thread that knows the coordinates to the best caves.

I believe that these people who are building the underground city or whatever it is are stupid as hell... bcos if you see that the planet if it is like 5 times larger than earth then the gravitational pull is not only doing to cause tsunami's and tornado's and # but I believe that the gravitational pull of that planet is going to shake to earth like for example what you experience when you step on the brakes in your car... just at a much larger scale. So if you are like inside a room or underground you would be squished like a bug. The earth will step on the brakes while everyone else will keep moving and for relativity purposes, imagine yourself, standing on the ground and the next moment soaring through the air at the rotational speed of the earth.

Now only if the US has found a way to get to the core of the earth and have a base down there then only then they might just be right. and would save themselves... But otherwise I recommend, staying away from walls... or hard surfaces... probably in this case the house covered with cushions is the safest place to be...

Originally posted by 20wEaReEvOlViNg12

Originally posted by DJW001
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Maybe the Russians know somthing we dont...

No, they're just translating the crazy theories they read on the internet into Russian.

Dj, you obviously have your mind set on a theory and there is nothing that can change it short of experiencing it. The difference between you and me is that you believe your beliefs, while i question my beliefs. Sure its far fetched that this scenario will happen but if you think about the fact that we are on a inhabitable planet flying through space, rotating around a sun which resides in a galaxy that is one of billions of other galaxies. If we werent experiencing this would you believe it? sounds alot more far far fetched than the planet x theory. All im saying is that anythings possible bro,we are a perfect example of how ridiculous everything is.

Well lets all question our belief that the earth isn't a giant gobstopper about to be gobbled up by a giant catfish that swims through space time 2 million times the speed of light.

There are certain things that aren't about having an open mind but are rather about plain ignorance. Plenty of us have looked at the so called 'evidence' for nibiru/planet x and none of it holds water. There is a couple wonderful ways to get to the truth of matters, its called logic and the scientific method.

Let me recommend a couple books for your reading enjoyment.

1. The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan
2. The Logic of Scientific Discovery by Karl Popper

It is great to see fellow Russian members on this website!!!!

Russia was always open about ET, UFO and ancient history... so this is not something new...

No one can predict the truth... whoever knows the truth... ie NASA, Government, they will never be open with public... I guess time will reveal everything...

Ok, I decided to do some digging in search of Infrared telescopes that would be able to get a good view of this thing(if it exists). I wasn't interested in anything NASA might be using, because let's face it, we don't usually get the entire story from them.

So, I came across a very interesting telescope called the LBT.

The external linkLBT (Large Binocular Telescope) is a collaboration between astronomical institutes in Germany, Italy, and the US. The telescope is located on Mount Graham, near Tucson, Arizona at an altitude of about 3200 m. The LBT is a binocular telescope consisting of two 8.4-meter mirrors on a common mount (Fig. 1). This telescope is equivalent in light-gathering power to a single 11.8 meter instrument.

Source

Interestingly enough, they added infrared equipment to this telescope that actually detected a cool brown dwarf 10 - 30 LY away. The equipment is called LUCIFER. Yeah, that's kind of odd. You can read about the brown dwarf find at this article...

Discovery

The official website of the LBT is located here..

LBT

So, that was kind of exciting to learn about the cool equipment we have scanning the stars. If anything, at least these doomsday theories have improved my scientific knowledge and interest, so that's only a good thing right?

From the LBT website, the latest press release was dated June 15, 2010.
The latest current news was this,

The LBT will be hosted a Science Meeting from March 31, 2011 to April 2, 2011 in Tucson, Arizona.

Science meeting eh? More like a doomsday preparation conference. Ok, just trying to feed the flames, sorry.

Anyways, my point is that if anything can clear this up, that telescope could look in the direction where Nibiru is supposed to be and detect it. Does anybody have good intel on where this telescope is currently pointed at? There were contacts listed on the press release portion of the website.

Contacts: Matt Smith LBT Corporation 520-321-1111 [email protected]
Lori Stiles U of A News Services 520-626-4402 [email protected]
Leopoldo Benacchio Instituto Nazionale di Astrofisica +39-0498 293 411 [email protected]
Dan Huff Research Corporation 520-571-1111
Klaus Jäger Max-Planck-Institut für Astronomie +49-6221 528 379 [email protected]

we'll see soon enough. Only one and a half years left, but we will probably enter WW3 by then..

Originally posted by Iwinder

Originally posted by WideOpenSpace

Originally posted by XplanetX

I hope you are right, but I will prepare myself accordingly.

The Russians sure seem to think they need 5000 bunkers pronto.

You do realize that there are over 142,000,000 people living in Russia?

The numbers do not matter, what matters is that they have built 5000 underground bunkers and continue to do so.
What matters is why?
Also it seems to me that at least they are doing something, and yes it's totally unrealistic to think they can protect the whole population.
People live then people breed.......pretty simple if you ask me.
Regards, Iwinder

I believe they are just replacing the older bunkers that are no good. I am sure that the last time the underground shelters were built here was in the Soviet times. Like many things in our country, the bunkers were left to rot, because no one cared. Therefore, the old so-called bunkers can do no good if anything happens. So it's either someone decided to finally look into this issue or it is simple money laundering.

You would be surprised how many things are done here for no reason whatsoever (other than money laundering). For instance, now the Moscow mayor has decided to repave all of the streets. The city streets look like they've been hit with an artillery strike, while the authorities are ripping all of the perfectly fine asphalt apart.

Please, don't try to find any logic or conspiracy here. Russian government does not care about Nibiru or aliens or anything like that. All they care about is money and power.

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Interesting insight you bring to this thread about buying silver. Silver's price is being manipulated by Big Banks like JP Morgan and HSBC to keep the price very low even though the fact that silver will run out way sooner than gold. If the price of silver were to go up, these Big Banks would no doubt be finished.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

i always thought that muslims were the owners of an unbreakable record in the hall of fame of propaganda but christians truly beat them to it these days. sigh.

there is no such planet as nibiru, and the whole thing is a hoax to keep your minds busy with the fear for your ass while the world is heading towards a much worse challenge than any mythical crap of a supposed planet. wake up people you're about to lose your underpants to a financial crisis which in turn is artificial as well. big ass bankers and tptb want you to get short of your monies and investments only to render you even more dependent than you already are. prices will keep inflating while your wages remain the same or even cut. you have much more serious concerns than a possibly metaphoric tale of an ancient culture which may be subject to a huge misconception. dude, the future of your kids should be your concern. a meteor might strike earth any time or may not even come close for god knows how much time, this is how the universe works. but you have to focus on your present day while there's no actual threat out there in space.

nibiru is some sumerian myth and alone that name gets on my nerves everytime i see it as the main topic of some cheap new age themed youtube vid with a dead can dance track in the background. thanks for making me loathe ambient and world music btw. argh.

I will just be sort of happy (albeit also slightly saddened) when we hit 2013.

No more of this nonsense talk (again, sadly there won't be any more of this nonsense talk either.but meh)

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The fact that mankinds own destruction is more likely than a planetary collision is a cause for concern!

I think the problem here is one of "I saw it in Youtube, it MUST be right!" Sadly, this would make all of those World of Warcraft vids right. Maybe I'll make one showing that my Troll priestess is now a billionaire.

We are visual animals, and when we see something, our critical thinking skills often get switched off or overrun by "oooh! pretty!"

Originally posted by megabytz
No planet or brown dwarf would be invisible anywhere in the solar system. If it was as close as the people who perpetrate this myth say it is it would be extremely visible to everyone who looks up at night. It would reflect the light from the sun just like every planet in our solar system does.

It is convenient for this ignorant conspiracy though to say it can only be visible through infrared or it is approaching the earth from the south pole. That way the conspiracy can remain alive for as long as possible. Come on use those critical thinking skills, please!

* Nibiru doesn't exist. Someone has compiled ALL the ancient Sumerian references to it (there are 19, exactly, including positions on astronomical charts.) Sometimes it appears as their name for Jupiter. In one case it's the name for a certain area of the sky. Several instances are non-stellar references.
* the Sumerians never heard of 2012 and had no way of calculating it.
* Nothing happens to the solar system every 3600 years. If it did, there would be writing from China, the Mediterranean, and Egypt (at the very minimum) recording in huge detail what happened in 1500 BC. All the information would match (like -- "big huge glowy thing in the sky that stayed for two years") and astronomical tables of the time would show it. There would be poems, plays, and decorative objects featuring it. None of this exists.
* The "brown dwarf" bit was started by Nancy Lieder (if memory serves), who swore Nibiru was "definitely coming because aliens told her" in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 (astronomers debunked her) -- several followers sold everything and ran for the hills, believing she was right.

...and so forth.

Youtube's probably the least reliable source out there.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
I will just be sort of happy (albeit also slightly saddened) when we hit 2013.

No more of this nonsense talk (again, sadly there won't be any more of this nonsense talk either.but meh)

They'll find something new. It's been this way ever since I can remember.

Humans have a taste for "it's the end of the world but my plucky buddies and I will survive" scenarios. It's not going away.

All the answers about Nibiru!!
Can i get some feed back from some open minded people on these videos?

I usually stay out of these arguments but I just thought I'd share this. I don't have a dog in this race as I agree with the person on the first page. First off, we can't change what will happen. Secondly, I also believe in ascension though maybe in a different form.

That said, what if the reason why Nibiru isn't being seen by astronomers is because either it has a way of cloaking itself OR our 5 sensory bodies don't offer us the ability to see/view such a thing at this time?