Is this for real? Russian news channel spills the beans about the existence of Nibiru and 2012?

May not be the case. Looks like they have cut back our tracing of origins and had shut down our path to growth and enlightenment citing lack of money and economic doom. Coincidence? I really hope it is.

You think the economy is all haywire, and NASA is closing down explorations. Because they all bought into the Nibiru thing?

Hell, I really hope they are dumb enough ...

reply to post by Phage


Please Phage.. are you scared?

Hi,
Hope this query isn't redundant. Please correct me if I use the wrong terminology.

Have the likely trajectories been determined for the Nibiru approach and pass-by of Earth, particularly the closest, furtherists, and most likely? Given that Nibiru's mass is 5 times the Earth, that's known, has anyone (probably a member of ATS) prepared a chart or table depicting the effects on the Earth at various trajectories of Nibiru?

In other words, greatest pass-by distance = X miles and yields what effects on Earth?
nearest pass-by distance = Y miles and worst-case effects on Earth.

And then the probabilities of trajectories that are plotted.

Then, will the accuracy of such predictions improve (it would seem so) as the Earth to Nibiru distance decreases?

reply to post by Messias


I'm scared of a few things.
Drunk drivers
sharks (when I can't see them)

Not Nibiru.

reply to post by Afterthought


I am very curious about this quote. Can you list where this information came from and who these whistle blowers are. In all my years of research I have never read anything like this nor come across such information via anyone whistle blowing. Really would like to know where this comes from.

There is an interesting movie about Annunaki kept frozen inside a mountain in a dessert. Inside this mountain it is a secret stargate. The movie is called "Tower of the First Born".

Some "whistle blowers" have said that they have seen them in deep underground government facilities. They say that the giants are kept in a comatose state because (of course) they're strong, but they're also telepathic and can control you with their minds. The whistle blowers stated that when they got close to the roped off part, they got a massive headache. It is believed copper wrist and ankle bands are kept on the giants because only copper makes them weak. Sort of like krytonite. I wonder why copper is being stolen in great amounts now....

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Messias

 

I'm scared of a few things.
Drunk drivers
sharks (when I can't see them)

Not Nibiru.

The thing that scares me the most is how much time and effort you put into proving all this a hoax over and over again.Its not hard to figure out why most people spend so much time looking for evidence that may or may not be there.You on the other hand have no reason to keep this up that i can see.Its either a strong love for humanity cause you gladly drop whatever is going on with your life and come to the rescue or there i money involved.

reply to post by deadeyedick

What's hard to figure out is why people insist upon rejecting real evidence and accepting nothing but flakey statements with no basis.

What's hard to figure out is why people keep repeating the same nonsense when time and time again it has been shown that with a bit of real research (not blogs, not youtube videos, not channelers, not snake oil salesmen) it can be seen that the claims are at best erroneous.

What's hard to figure out is if people are really looking for evidence, how it is that they demonstrate a complete ignorance of basic astronomy.

What's hard to figure out is why people think it's perfectly ok to spout the same nonsense over and over again but it's not ok to point out the problems with that nonsense.

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universe today

How is it Garradd isn't having any effect on us? Also the Kuiper belt from the southern hemisphere has been recently studied and located 14 new objects, 3 of which might be considered dwarf planets. There is much to still yet be discovered. National Geographic
Anything the size of Jupiter would be seen be now with naked eye.I am in the NE U.S. and on any given late night, Jupiter can be spotted east to SE at daybreak and is the last visible object when the sun comes up.

reply to post by Phage


When people are lied to consistently, by their lovers, bosses, politicians, governments, and yes, even the so-called educational system, then people begin to question EVERYTHING. I don't know why you think that's hard to understand, but it's what society has now created - maybe even by design - a mass confusion.

Uranus in 1781

Interesting ,that these days will all of our,
spaceships,
telescopes,
nasa,
jpl,
computers,etc,,
and general high tech stuff

these guys,,,230 years ago,,discovered Uranus in 1781

"The last time a serious search of the skies was made,
it led to the discovery in 1930 of Pluto,
the ninth planet. (Pluto was discovered in 1930 by a fortunate accident. Calculations which later turned out to be in error had predicted a planet beyond Neptune, based on the motions of Uranus and Neptune. Not knowing of the error, Clyde W. Tombaugh at Lowell Observatory in Arizona did a very careful sky survey which turned up Pluto anyway.)

But the story begins more than a century before that,
after the discovery of Uranus in 1781

by the English astronomer and musician

William Herschel.

Until then, the planetary system seemed to end with Saturn.
As astronomers observed Uranus, noting irregularities in its orbital path, many speculated that they were witnessing the gravitational pull of an unknown planet. So began the first planetary search based on astronomers’ predictions, which ended in the 1840s with the discovery of Neptune almost simultaneously by English, French and German astronomers.

yes i know pluto is not now a planet. but it was for a while

reply to post by Enlightenme1111

So believe the flakes and the channelers and the snake oil salesmen and don't do any research on the other side of the argument. Don't educate yourself about the basics to see of there is any sense in those claims.

Good plan.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Enlightenme1111

 

So believe the flakes and the channelers and the snake oil salesmen and don't do any research on the other side of the argument. Don't educate yourself about the basics to see of there is any sense in those claims.

Good plan.

edit on 8/14/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

well here u go then:

THE YOUNGEST GALACTIC SUPERNOVA REMNANT: G1.9
0.3
The Astrophysical Journal, 680: L41–L44, 2008 June 10

2008. The American Astronomical Society. All rights reserved. Printed in U.S.A.
This work was supported by NASA through Chandra General
Observer Program grant GO6-7059X.

And i quote from the Journal
quote
"Both these conditions appear to be present for
G1.9
0.3. The implied lack of deceleration is consistent with
the requirement of a lack of thermal emission.
Our results invite many predictions. Our first, that a new
radio observation should immediately show expansion, has already
been verified. Another Chandra observation should show
it as well. Time variations in the nonthermal fluxes, both radio
and X-ray, are likely and may give information about the density
profiles of ejecta and/or ambient medium. The INTEGRAL
satellite will observe G1.9
0.3 shortly, testing the prediction
for the 1.16 MeV gamma-ray line. The high absorbing column
makes optical detection hopeless, but the implied high dust
density suggests that a search for infrared light echoes, such
as those recently detected from Cas A (Krause et al. 2005; Kim
et al. 2008; Dwek & Arendt 2008), should be undertaken. At
a projected distance of only 300 pc from the GC, G1.9
0.3
is likely to be near substantial local dust. A more extensive Xray
observation to search for any thermal emission is crucial,
as such emission could corroborate this picture and also give
information on a stage of SNR evolution never before observed."
unquote

But feel free too research the material,, no i am not putting link,

It's been three years,,,2008 June 10,,and this is the part that caught my eye,

"information on a stage of SNR evolution never before observed",,,

It's been three years,,,2011 August,,

so strange things going on in our galaxy you say,,,

hmmmm i wonder if there might be a connection here.?

Or is this going too be another,,nothing too see here,, move along,,just another doom thread,,laugh,,laugh,,

Once again i will list here on ATS,,

Fast Facts for G1.9+0.3:
Credit X-ray (NASA/CXC/NCSU/S.Reynolds et al.); Radio (NSF/NRAO/VLA/Cambridge/D.Green et al.); Infrared (2MASS/UMass/IPAC-Caltech/NASA/NSF/CfA/E.Bressert)
Scale Left panel is 5 arcmin across.
Category Supernovas & Supernova Remnants
Coordinates (J2000) RA 17h 48m 45s | Dec -27° 10' 00"
Constellation Sagittarius
Observation Dates 2 pointings between 02/10/2007 & 03/03/2007
Observation Time 14 hours
Obs. IDs 6708, 8521
Color Code X-ray (orange); Radio (blue); Infrared (yellow/white stars)
Instrument ACIS
References Reynolds, S. et al. 2008, ApJ Letters (Accepted)
Distance Estimate 25,000 light years
(Centre of Galaxy is 30,000 light years.))
Release Date May 14, 2008
-------------
(The last time i posted this, i got a "its just some guy who hoaxed a picture, on the internet,,laugh,,laugh,,so if we can keep the BS out of the discussion ,,it would be nice.)

And if anyone wants too tackle this:
"Here we report a confirmation of a young SNR,
but one of remarkable properties:
comparison of radio and X-ray images
separated by
22 years demonstrates significant expansion,
allowing the inference of an age in order of 100 years.
In addition, its X-ray emission
appears to be purely synchrotron radiation,
making G1.9
0.3
the fourth clear-cut
X-ray-synchrotron-dominated Galactic SNR,
after SN 1006 (Koyama et al. 1995), G347.30.5 (Koyama et
al. 1997), and G266.21.2 (Slane et al. 2001)."
If i read that right, we have a piece of matter, not giving off thermal energy,bulding in size,
and really young,,
or really old and huge,
so when did Tycho blow,
and if it was 25,000 million miles away,
and the first shock wave hit, 2008,
,(although i believe that too be the
,second, wave,),
what other , particles
from a SuperNova Explosion,
is the planet ,,
waiting for?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Enlightenme1111

 

So believe the flakes and the channelers and the snake oil salesmen and don't do any research on the other side of the argument. Don't educate yourself about the basics to see of there is any sense in those claims.

Good plan.

edit on 8/14/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

You jumped to an assumption that I did not make. I was simply describing to you why people bring these fringe theories to the table - not to blindly believe in them.

Personally, I like to hear every theory, no matter how ridiculous, and research and weigh the evidence presented. That's why I like to read and participate on ATS. I don't get upset about fringe theories, I enjoy reading them and the debate that goes with them.

It shouldn't upset you so much honestly. Throughout history, many scientists were laughed at based on their fringe theories. Today, we read about those crazy flakes, and how they were correct.

reply to post by BobAthome

You're wrong.
G1.9 is 25,000 light years ( 146,962,495,000,000,000 miles) from Earth and the supernova already occurred.

The supernova which created the Crab Nebula was much closer. We survived it.

reply to post by Enlightenme1111

It shouldn't upset you so much honestly. Throughout history, many scientists were laughed at based on their fringe theories. Today, we read about those crazy flakes, and how they were correct.

Who's upset (besides deadeyedick)?

Many fringe ideas deserved being laughed at and still do, especially those which had no evidence or background science to support them. That's all there is with this Nibiru garbage. No evidence, just false claims made from ignorance. Worse, there are outright lies involved.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by LightAssassin

 

Not really.
Those sites are astronomy toys. They're fun but there are many examples of missing data and odd stitching of images. The "issues" are resolvable by going to the original sources.

edit on 8/14/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Is that a possible reason for not being able to overlay, one over the other, Guitarist's two picture links?
The second linked picture seems to show objects wider apart in different planes.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by BobAthome

 

You're wrong.
G1.9 is 25,000 light years ( 146,962,495,000,000,000 miles) from Earth and the supernova already occurred.

The supernova which created the Crab Nebula was much closer. We survived it.

edit on 8/14/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

i agree
quote

"What's hard to figure out is why people insist upon
rejecting real evidence
and accepting nothing but
flakey statements
with no basis. "
unquote.

You're wrong.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by deadeyedick

 

What's hard to figure out is why people insist upon rejecting real evidence and accepting nothing but flakey statements with no basis.

What's hard to figure out is why people keep repeating the same nonsense when time and time again it has been shown that with a bit of real research (not blogs, not youtube videos, not channelers, not snake oil salesmen) it can be seen that the claims are at best erroneous.

What's hard to figure out is if people are really looking for evidence, how it is that they demonstrate a complete ignorance of basic astronomy.

What's hard to figure out is why people think it's perfectly ok to spout the same nonsense over and over again but it's not ok to point out the problems with that nonsense.

edit on 8/14/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Everything about your reponse tell me that you are being paid.
I gave you a great opportunity to state your reasons for your dedication.You instead chose to devalue the ones on the other side of your argument.I doesnt add up.Im all for making money but come on buddy.We love you as a fellow human.

reply to post by BobAthome

I'm talking about Nibiru.
I'm talking about those who claim that G1.9 is a brown dwarf in the Solar System.

I have no idea what you're talking about and you don't either. You claimed G1.9 is 25 million miles from Earth

reply to post by deadeyedick

Ah yes. Don't discuss the content, don't refute it. Discuss instead the member.
The disinfo fallback.