We All Have Blood On Our Hands

Originally posted by waypastvne

Originally posted by Yankee451

Well, something had to smack through a brick fascade, mow down a "forest" of reinforced concrete pillars, and still maintain enough force, integrity and mass to punch a circular hole through the rebar reinforced concrete wall of the C ring light well.

There was no rebar, just 2 layers of brick and a plaster wall. No rebar.

Not true.

This article is about one component - the single largest component in the Pentagon. The concrete. All structural elements of the Pentagon, except one, are constructed of reinforced concrete.

...The one element of the Pentagon not constructed of reinforced concrete is the outermost perimeter wall. It is the limestone wall that everyone sees on the outside of the building. This article is primarily about the remainder of the 1,000,000 square feet of the lightwell walls which are now undergoing a complete Repair, Rehabilitation, and Protection program.

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Reinforced, and from the punchout hole photos, also brick faced.

Originally posted by Yankee451
Not true.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

There was no rebar, just 2 layers of brick and a plaster wall. No rebar.

As we can see from an actual picture of the C ring hole:



There were Two layers of brick one limestone one red.

Then came the plaster wall which consisted of 16 gauge 1 1/2" channel horizontal supports.

and 16 gauge 3/4 channel vertical supports.



Then metal lath and a layer of plaster.


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The rest of the metal from the plaster wall that was blown out can be seen in the photo below


So once again; NO REBAR, zip, zilch, nada, none. There is no rebar just 2 layers of brick and a plaster wall. No rebar.

One more time, N O R E B A R .

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That's news to the guys who are renovating the Pentagon. Might want to let them in on your little secret.

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Originally posted by Yankee451


That's news to the guys who are renovating the Pentagon. Might want to let them in on your little secret.

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Why didn't you take your evidence and compare it to photos. As you can see in this photo the pentagon from the second floor up is as described in your source article. The first floor however is 2 layers of brick and a plaster wall in-between the support columns.(ignore arrow)


Lets take a close up look at what you are calling rebar in your photo.



As you can see it is not rebar but the standard 3/4" 16 gauge channel used to support plaster walls. 16 gauge is 0.05" or 1.29 mm BTW.



Do you still think there 6 walls between the impact and exit holes ?

Do you ever get tired of being wrong ?

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Well, something had to smack through a brick fascade, mow down a "forest" of reinforced concrete pillars, and still maintain enough force, integrity and mass to punch a circular hole through the rebar reinforced concrete wall of the C ring light well.

How about a landing gear truck ? Section of landing gear lying in alley outside C Ring



Of course will lie your way out of this ........

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How about a landing gear truck ? Section of landing gear lying in alley outside C Ring



Of course will lie your way out of this ........

How about not? Nat. Geo claimed that pressure from the multiple explosions caused when the plane impacted the building created that hole:

Cut the condescending attitude dude. We're trying to establish the facts here and you're here on your high horse like you know everything, but you were wrong too.

Not that I buy that explanation, but that's the explanation that the mainstream "experts" put out there, and you're pushing some landing gear theory which contradicts the theory that you're trying to defend.

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So why is that piece of the landing gear lying outside the hole if if didn't create it......?

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So why is that piece of the landing gear lying outside the hole if if didn't create it......?

That's a great question, why don't you ask National Geographic?

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I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again. It's not the end of the world and I'll get over it. If you aren't satisfied with my source, take it up with them; from the sounds of their description, what we're looking at is the limestone fascade. They clearly state the only part of the Pentagon that didn't have reinforced concrete was the limestone fascade, and those pictures sure look like a limestone fascade.

You might want to see if there's any follow up article about it, or contact Structure Magazine for a correction.

Originally posted by TupacShakur
[Not that I buy that explanation, but that's the explanation that the mainstream "experts" put out there, and you're pushing some landing gear theory which contradicts the theory that you're trying to defend.

the answer was given here on ATS 2 years ago - www.abovetopsecret.com...