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What kind of rifle should I buy my wife to help me defend the homefront when shtf?

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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What is so hard about
having a DEFENSE gun
that can not hold off atleast 5 people.

Crims are like wolves.

You will probably have more then one
attacker at a time..

THIS IS WHY THESE HIGH CAPS ARE NEEDED..



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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I like the Rutger mini ranch 14.....223 solid rifle and not to long. I'm good at a hundred yards w/o a scope!! Plus it's a bad ass looking rifle, so you can display it as well.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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I would suggest the AK47 with a folding stock. Perfect for home/SHTF/Hunting.

More importantly the rifle is reliable, the ammo is readily available and it's recoil is minimized by being a semi-auto.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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i hav'nt read all the post to this thread, but i know several female shooters who enjoy the remington 7615 , it is a pump action which accepts stanag and most aftermarket ar mags, so ammo compatibility with your current weapon system will be a nonissue. the safety and slide release are easily reachable from firing grip, without shifting your trigger hand too much. and the mag release is in the standard ar position. and adjustable position stocks can be had for shooters with shorter reach.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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I like the Winchester 30-30. Not much kick and packs a punch. My father taught me to use several guns but I settled on this one. It may or may not penetrate a vest, depending on the vest, but should set the perpetrator back on his butt.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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the new leverrevolution (sp)ammo. effectively makes this a 250 to 300 yard rifle, and the winchester lever action is a go to rifle for many people i know, mainly because its what they already got handed down to them.


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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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22-250 as seen here www.gunnersden.com... all the questions you need to ask are on the link i am thinking the leaver action www.impactguns.com... just a thought.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Buy a black BB pistol
that should scare off anyone approaching you


mine really look like a powerfull magnum

but its not lol
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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Does she have the physical strength to handle a powerful weapon?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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I get along fine with my M6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle but they can be expensive and hard to find so you might need to go to a specialist dealer, it also takes a bit of getting used the recoil but for home defence for when TSHTF there really is nothing better I have found. If your wife has quite a masculine stature and is able to handle a powerful weapon look no further.

As for a side arm, you really can’t beat a M6G Magnum I used to use a Walther P99 but the M6G just has better stopping power although it is a bit heavier.

I don’t know if those weapons will suit your wife, my wife gets on ok with them.

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
Buy a black BB pistol
that should scare off anyone approaching you


mine really look like a powerfull magnum

but its not lol
edit on 8/12/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)


Who wants to bring a bb gun to a who know what fight? and besides that she would not be very happy after I just dropped about a grand on a new AR for me and all she got was a bb gun.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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A Ruger mini 14...it's light,and easy to handle.You can get 20 & 30 round mags.My daughter,21, loves to shoot mine.You also need to think about ammunition,if you already have an AR15,then they take the same

Oh and their great for ground hogs !!!
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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She can shoot any gun we own.
But she hates my muzzleloader it is a little to much for her.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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For long-term comitment, anything that can shoot lead bullets. Get a bullet mold, and gather lead. No guarantee that the ammo supplies will last upheaval.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Thats wonderful. Hope she can shoot straight!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Thats wonderful. Hope she can shoot straight!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Reading some of these answers I'm convinced some people are not paying attention to what you asked. You want a long range rifle, then let's deal with a long range rifle, not a Glock on the end table. You can have that, too, but that's not the issue. A couple of generic points:

1. You do not want a bolt action. It takes too long between shots. You need a semi-auto mainly because if its rapid fire capabilities and extended ammo load. Being practical, you want it to have a 30 round capability.

2. Recoil is an issue. Women are generally smaller and recoil will affect them more. If your woman is an amazon, never mind. Although caliber is not the ONLY issue here that affects recoil, this probably rules out a .50 rifle. On the other hand, you don't want a .22 either. If the issue is defense, you want to stop people, not just make them mad.

3. Mindset IS important. We've seen some of that on this thread. "My God! You're talking about KILLING someone!
That's right. We are. Killing, not wounding. If that is too shocking, stay out of the way and hide in your house. You can come out when it's over and someone else has done your job for you--if you're still alive.

4. Don't worry about the police or authorities. By definition SHTF means they are not significant players. In a SHTF scenario there will be two types of people: armed and unarmed. That's all. If you're lucky enough to live in a castle state, great. If you live in California, move.

Too bad she doesn't like the AR platform. One chambered in .223 would fit the requirements nicely. Maybe you could put a wooden stock on one and call it something else.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by schuyler

3. Mindset IS important. We've seen some of that on this thread. "My God! You're talking about KILLING someone!
That's right. We are. Killing, not wounding. If that is too shocking, stay out of the way and hide in your house. You can come out when it's over and someone else has done your job for you--if you're still alive.


And it doesn't appear that him or his wife are in the right mind set.
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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"to defend the homefront" OP? Haha, awesome.

Well to defend the homefront, you will want to turn her out as a deep spy inside enemy lines. Selling her body for vital enemy secrets would be what I would ask of your family, if I were the commander, defending the homefront at the top, and giving orders to families. See, I'd need to know movements of the enemy, and where their fleets are headed,and I can't assume I'd have airpower after 9/11 so it'd be complete reliance on HUMINT to get this stuff, and frankly, you know, I need you to be willing to go to the mat for your country, as a family.

So probably few families will be willing to step up like that, and therefore info may be limited, and therefore if your family elects not to serve in the Information Corp, then you might be assigned infantry level, which without good spies, means artillery may raon down on you. Sorry about that, but rest assured we as a nation will fight on.

But let's say you are going to run away and flee, and not participate in defense of the Homeland. Well then in that case you should be unarmed, because our troops will surely have rebels to deal with in some capacity and so its just easier if you will show complete compliance. Being armed and not defending the homefront isn't really helpful to the commanders of the front, and to have you moving in the rear echelon with arms just makes it hard for us to retake these counties and cities. I am guessing that in that future Homefront world you describe, there would be sections of berlin wall type trenches dug so flight itself becomes difficult. Rather than the hassle of a gun, better to think of how people escaped into West Germany and all that, because know, I doubt the enemy will give quarter. And if they come here, they must be expecting horrendous losses, and if they are still willing to come, then they will win numerically, eventually. So really I would ask gun owners to have three children for every gun they own. So if you own three guns I'd expect that family to somehow come up with nine children.

In order to fight this Homefront war you describe, I'll need to fire not just bullets, but humans as well. I am thinking the old mormon way of sister wives and so forth, will allow family units to produce enough humans but we will have to maintain our prodigious breeding systems for at least a decade and we'd have to take ground via trench warfare during that decade so it's tough, but as a commander I'd rather have soldiers, than an armed woman, so breeding would be best.
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Campy61
reply to post by RoguePhilosopher
 


She can shoot any gun we own.
But she hates my muzzleloader it is a little to much for her.


in that case the M6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear is not such a good idea



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