MUST READ!! An Amazing Letter to The Primeministers Parents...

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Originally posted by Misterlondon
Maybe its just a coincidence but that link has made my phone crash twice..

1 PC and a laptop just went haywire when I clicked that link, what the hell? coincidence?

There are no coincidences

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Just crashed Google chrome too, Probably the Government trying to censor the letter or prevent it been read

Can someone copy and paste the article in here i couldn't read most of the link it crashes chrome and you are unable to scroll further down

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An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents

August 10, 2011 in whingeing | Tags: #ukriots, Andy Hayman, Bernie Ecclestone, boris johnson, corruption, david cameron, ed vaizey, Hazel Blears, London, Michael Gove, Tony Blair, uk riots
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Dear Mr & Mrs Cameron,

Why did you never take the time to teach your child basic morality?

As a young man, he was in a gang that regularly smashed up private property. We know that you were absent parents who left your child to be brought up by a school rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour yourselves. The fact that he became a delinquent with no sense of respect for the property of others can only reflect that fact that you are terrible, lazy human beings who failed even in teaching your children the difference between right and wrong. I can only assume that his contempt for the small business owners of Oxford is indicative of his wider values.

Even worse, your neglect led him to fall in with a bad crowd. He became best friends with a young man who set fire to buildings for fun. And others:

There’s Michael Gove, whose wet-lipped rage was palpable on Newsnight last night. This is the Michael Gove who confused one of his houses with another of his houses in order to avail himself of £7,000 of the taxpayers’ money to which he was not entitled (or £13,000, depending on which house you think was which).

Or Hazel Blears, who was interviewed in full bristling peahen mode for almost all of last night. She once forgot which house she lived in, and benefited to the tune of £18,000. At the time she said it would take her reputation years to recover. Unfortunately not.

But, of course, this is different. This is just understandable confusion over the rules of how many houses you are meant to have as an MP. This doesn’t show the naked greed of people stealing plasma tellies.

Unless you’re Gerald Kaufman, who broke parliamentary rules to get £8,000 worth of 40-inch, flat screen, Bang and Olufsen TV out of the taxpayer.

Or Ed Vaizey, who got £2,000 in antique furniture ‘delivered to the wrong address’. Which is fortunate, because had that been the address they were intended for, that would have been fraud.

Or Jeremy Hunt, who broke the rules to the tune of almost £20,000 on one property and £2,000 on another. But it’s all right, because he agreed to pay half of the money back. Not the full amount, it would be absurd to expect him to pay back the entire sum that he took and to which he was not entitled. No, we’ll settle for half. And, as in any other field, what might have been considered embezzlement of £22,000 is overlooked. We know, after all, that David Cameron likes to give people second chances.

Fortunately, we have the Met Police to look after us. We’ll ignore the fact that two of its senior officers have had to resign in the last six weeks amid suspicions of widespread corruption within the force.

We’ll ignore Andy Hayman, who went for champagne dinners with those he was meant to be investigating, and then joined the company on leaving the Met.

Of course, Mr and Mrs Cameron, your son is right. There are parts of society that are not just broken, they are sick. Riddled with disease from top to bottom.

Just let me be clear about this (It’s a good phrase, Mr and Mrs Cameron, and one I looted from every sentence your son utters, just as he looted it from Tony Blair), I am not justifying or minimising in any way what has been done by the looters over the last few nights. What I am doing, however, is expressing shock and dismay that your son and his friends feel themselves in any way to be guardians of morality in this country.

Can they really, as 650 people who have shown themselves to be venal pygmies, moral dwarves at every opportunity over the last 20 years, bleat at others about ‘criminality’. Those who decided that when they broke the rules (the rules they themselves set) they, on the whole wouldn’t face the consequences of their actions?

Are they really surprised that this country’s culture is swamped in greed, in the acquisition of material things, in a lust for consumer goods of the most base kind? Really?

Let’s have a think back: cash-for-questions; Bernie Ecclestone; cash-for-access; Mandelson’s mortgage; the Hinduja passports; Blunkett’s alleged insider trading (and, by the way, when someone has had to resign in disgrace twice can we stop having them on television as a commentator, please?); the meetings on the yachts of oligarchs; the drafting of the Digital Economy Act with Lucian Grange; Byers’, Hewitt’s & Hoon’s desperation to prostitute themselves and their positions; the fact that Andrew Lansley (in charge of NHS reforms) has a wife who gives lobbying advice to the very companies hoping to benefit from the NHS reforms. And that list didn’t even take me very long to think of.

Our politicians are for sale and they do not care who knows it.

Oh yes, and then there’s the expenses thing. Widescale abuse of the very systems they designed, almost all of them grasping what they could while they remained MPs, to build their nest egg for the future at the public’s expense. They even now whine on Twitter about having their expenses claims for getting back to Parliament while much of the country is on fire subject to any examination. True public servants.

The last few days have revealed some truths, and some heartening truths. The fact that the #riotcleanup crews had organised themselves before David Cameron even made time for a public statement is heartening. The fact that local communities came together to keep their neighbourhoods safe when the police failed is heartening. The fact that there were peace vigils being organised (even as the police tried to dissuade people) is heartening.

There is hope for this country. But we must stop looking upwards for it. The politicians are the ones leading the charge into the gutter.

David Cameron was entirely right when he said: “It is a complete lack of responsibility in parts of our society, people allowed to think that the world owes them something, that their rights outweigh their responsibilities, and that their actions do not have consequences.”

He was more right than he knew.

And I blame the parents.

*** EDIT – I have added a hyperlink to a Bullingdon article after a request for context from an American reader. I have also added the sentence about Nick Clegg as this was brought to my attention in the comments and it fits in too nicely to leave out. That’s the way I edited it at 18:38 on the 11th August, 2011 ***

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Really should have recieved more responses.... i don't know how to gain more i'm afraid.... you'll just have to bump it up to the top!

My thread was removed but yeh the guy who wrote the letter is correct... Government Hypocracy!!

They are allowed to cheat but when it comes to others who are in desperate state.... well thats a different story.

Teach and Preach... Preach an Teach

Actually i just found my exact one.... thought it was deleted:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Oh it's all good. I waited for them to load and read the article. Despite the poor design of their site, the article you linked to was worth the trouble to get to. Very interesting read. I ought to know a bit more about the leader of our closest ally, but I'm ashamed to admit this letter was more educational that it probably should have been for me.

At least you can admit it Always good to know that im sharing knowledge in a productive way, even if it is something so messed up

So David Cameron was a hell raiser in his younger days.....

and just think, any one of those thugs arrested might be the future PM of Great Britain!

Great letter !

We may have had an overtly nanny state with Labour, but it is just as true under a tory government too, its just that it is done by stealth.

Personally I would rather have the openess of knowing what the master plan to manipulate us is, rather than have it hidden inbetween the lines, and under the guise of dissillusioned self empowerment, of that which the current government peddles.

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Thanks

Originally posted by bluemirage5
So David Cameron was a hell raiser in his younger days.....

and just think, any one of those thugs arrested might be the future PM of Great Britain!

Not really , he was a member of the The Bullingdon Club , a bunch of rich toffs who get their kicks by going to posh restaurants , get drunk and smash them up , but given that they are well to do "gentlemen" mommy and daddy would foot the bill for the damage .

Sounds like a poor point badly made to me. The two things are not interchangeable. Politicians and the level of corruption are one issue and the rioters another. By co-mingling the two and trying to address both it actually does neither. The author is drawing parallels that just are n`t there. Social deprivation and the excesses of the controlling elite should be kept apart, any number of prior revolutions have told us that. The issue with the rioting lies with the ability of the parents to control and discipline their children, not with the corruption of politicians. The kids get their examples from those around them and it is the parents and the communities that are leading us into the gutter not the politicians, the politicians have been like this for thousands of years.

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What made the page slow to load for me was waiting on polldaddy, and transferring data from polldaddy. I'll never understand why people ruin their sites with that stuff...

Simply beautiful.

for the record, you dont torch the buildings you seek to control. this man actually speaks about the cause, not the symptom.
then you may notice we have a few of those here as well
we gotta stop looking at the symptoms

Originally posted by cassini
Sounds like a poor point badly made to me. The two things are not interchangeable. Politicians and the level of corruption are one issue and the rioters another. By co-mingling the two and trying to address both it actually does neither. The author is drawing parallels that just are n`t there. Social deprivation and the excesses of the controlling elite should be kept apart, any number of prior revolutions have told us that. The issue with the rioting lies with the ability of the parents to control and discipline their children, not with the corruption of politicians. The kids get their examples from those around them and it is the parents and the communities that are leading us into the gutter not the politicians, the politicians have been like this for thousands of years.

While I agree with you that it is not good to directly tie political corruption and social unrest, I'm afraid you missed the point: Cameron was (and IMHO still IS) mindless thug terrorizing neighborhood. Only difference between him and those deprivants last days is that he was (and still is) untouchable by authorities. This moron do not have any ethical ground for ranting on morality and good parenting.

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A great read...however, I think he's only beginning to scratch the surface and there's much, much more that could, and should, be said.

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Yeah but Gove is correct...isn't he?

It really is the liberal nanny state that has caused all this effect....

But it's exactly that party obsessed politics that has led us into this crappy mess we are in.

Our whole political system is focussed on personal gain and advancement along side the adherence to party line regardless of the well being or cares and concerns of constituents.

It's not just the fault of whichever political party one holds allegiance too, successive governments from at least Thatcher, and probably earlier, have been guilty of gradually dismantling and deconstructing British society.

If we are to start fixing societies failings then I suggest we start with doing away with our fixation of labelling and pigeon holing everything and everyone and radically reform our parliamentary system and adandoning the party political system that has outlived it's purpose.

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No one takes responsibility these days, because we all like to play that game called,"Pass the Buck," Most people simply don't care and that's the problem. We are a beating people, subservient to a stinking, rotten government and nothing is ever going to change that, certainly not the dumbed down sheep of this country. We made our bed and now we lie in it. Welcome to the gutter.

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The person who wrote the article is drawing on an early episode from Cameron`s life which is not really comparable to the issues that are seen here. He quickly launches into an attack of the innate corruption of politicians, essentially the Cameron argument is just a poorly constructed excuse to launch into attacks on the politicians. The issue with the riots is the rioters, the issue with politicians is the politicians.

The author is perfectly right in his disgust at the politicians corruption but that is a separate discussion altogether

Originally posted by cassini
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The person who wrote the article is drawing on an early episode from Cameron`s life which is not really comparable to the issues that are seen here. He quickly launches into an attack of the innate corruption of politicians, essentially the Cameron argument is just a poorly constructed excuse to launch into attacks on the politicians. The issue with the riots is the rioters, the issue with politicians is the politicians.

The author is perfectly right in his disgust at the politicians corruption but that is a separate discussion altogether

I still do not understand why you do not understand. Cameron acted as young idiot when he was young. That street kids acted as idiots: they are young. Is there any difference? Yes! Cameron didn't came from under class! Quite opposite. He had best schools available and probably everything material what he ever wanted. Still he was acting as Clockwork Orange thug. Was he ever prosecuted for his crimes? Never ever. Will be this stupid kids prosecuted? Yes, they will be hunted by every means available. Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi. That is the point of the letter linked in OP. And this is almost law in "oldest democracy". In fact British society is disgusting caste system. People from low strata of society have almost no chance to go up, middle class is vainly struggling to keep its status and rich gets richer. If this will go on, then God save the Queen.

And now guess what: If I'll be in situation of this kids (bad family, bad education, bad neighborhood, bad overall economic situation, brain washed by stupid consumerists pseudoculture) I'll probably act same. I start to be lucky that I grew up in Bolshevik country without real poverty, good elementary and higher education, without stupid advertisement and without ultra rich bastards who think, that they are gods. Stupid Bolshevik propaganda was bearable because it was stupid and every body laughed at it.

Ufff ... I started to be excited and it is not good for debate. Keep in mind that sometime people from former eastern block can see things which are hardly graspable from inside of western paradigm. But this is for special thread.

Acts of those kids are disgusting. Acts of young Cameron are disgusting. Where today Cameron take moral ground for his critics? Did he changed? I do not think so. The letter cited in OP say: Mr Cameron you are hypocrite. I can undersign it. Can you argue this point and not just quick jumping from Cameron youngster thug to old Cameron thug?

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Thanks for that as my pc also crashed trying to read it.