2011 Global Stock Market Collapse Watch

Originally posted by galdur
This is very volatile.

Now the market is up almost 2%.

30 stocks are hitting a new high, 630 a new low.

And tomorrow it will be the other way around.

"Never let a crisis go to waste"

There are people making billions out of this at the moment..

Ironic isn't it?

CNN Claims This is Good News?

meanwhile our own local news CP24 Rich news talks to the wealthy people outside.CP24
Watch the top video.

reply to post by Romekje


It´s impressive on the surface but the internals are not good: 38 new highs, 750 new lows.

reply to post by galdur


I know it's not good.

For you, me, the average company.

But the ones in the know, people like Soros et al, are making buckets at a time on every swing the market does.

Can someone explain why the U.s has a rebound? I am no stock guy

reply to post by Romekje


To understand how they milk commodities

google

goldman sachs warehouse business


It´s bloody obscene. The mob owns the govt., law enforcement, everything.

Originally posted by Jordan River
Can someone explain why the U.s has a rebound? I am no stock guy

Heavy drinking and medication last night, severe hangovers... Give them time to sober up, the day is young.

stocks were way down yesterday (and last week) so there are some folks out there who buy at those low prices, hoping to see small, incremental gains. If they buy enough shares, those small gains will provide them decent, quick profits. When you see the stocks move up a few ticks and then drop back a tick or two, that's the sell side of their game. The folks playing now are the ones who know what's going on, know how the system works and they will make their money and then, today, tomorrow, or next week, they'll have made their dough and abandon the game, causing the markets to drop again as the buyers will, again be far fewer than the sellers.

that's my guess as to where this is heading. I am, however, usually wrong. that's what my wife says. no, wait, she's says I'm never wrong, just never right.

This rally in the US markets is such BS. Everyone knows it. How can you rally with all the negative news out like banks suing each other for tens of billions for mortgage fraud, riots in London, X class flares like the one which just happened, Fukashima, Israel about to attack Iran and need I go on.

What I hate is the way they act as if all is well...it's such Bull %&$#.

Only going to make it that much worse when it really adjusts to where it should be for these global conditions.

I still say Dow 4000-5000 by first three months in 2012, and that's with QE3 being enacted shortly.

So stocks won't tumble pass -700 any time soon? Cause the players are on the board game? ahhhh okay

Time out. Simplified short and sharp explanations:-

1. Banksters, Slushed fund operators, rich nation's wealth funds - all gamblers around the world - are attempting a last ditch attempt to rise the markets with their last avaliable funds, to yet again tempt retail investors which numbers by the billions to join in, because:-

a) if the casino stock market collapses, many of the coporations will have their company's valulations reduced against the huge loans they had taken to fund their operations. Meaning, the banks holding the collateral is now dropping in value. If the corporations refuses to pay off loans or default, the banks will be left holding the empty bag.

b) There are no gains to be had for the retail investors, espacially in Europe, China and Asia. Europe will be going into default soon on their treasury bonds debts, China and Asia had depended largely on such funds to fuel their own growth will see such investments shrink as investors pull out their monies, and they too will collapse.

c.) The ones who will perish will be the banks, mortgage firms, fund gamblers. They will have to pay the price for their cowboy ways. Companies who default may not need to bankrupt but continue operations if the banks falls first, thus jobs can still be held as the money is already with them.

Many whom had placed their savings in the banks will suffer, but that was the risk they took under the laws of capitalism, and have to answer for themselves. They should have shared that wealth instead of hoarding in banks and allowed the gamblers to play with their money.

There MUST BE NO MORE BAILOUT OF BANKS!!!!! ONCE IS ENOUGH. The banks had not learnt the first time. Instead of sharing that wealth, they hoarding it and enriched themselves. NO MORE!!!

Instead funds be use to create jobs and rationalised sharing for those affected. Most of such funds are in US anyway, currently the safest nation for wealth, fully accountable with a rule by law gov, backed by an intelligent human capital as well as their own mineral resources to pay off any debts over time, unlike other nations that have little, or are dictatorships, or both.

Therefore, the middle class retail investors best stay out of the market and look for safe havens now or get burned.

There could be a lot of corporate buybacks going on right now as well. I think it very possible with companies having record amounts of cash on hand that maybe they are buying the dip. If they start an upward trend they could play the market themselves and make additional monies off people entering the market over the next week.

I thought it was going to slide again today, shows how much I know but in defense of my position it could be this causing the speculators to invest...

In sharp contrast to the deep declines of the previous sessions, North American markets were on the upswing at midday on Tuesday, as investors put their hopes on Tuesday's meeting of the U.S. Federal Reserve Open Market Committee to do something to resolve the current market woes. "U.S. equity futures are rising on a bet that the Fed will rescue the world today," wrote Derek Holt, an economist with Scotia Capital, in a morning note. "I'm skeptical it has such powers at this juncture, but the market has set itself up for a one-way disappointment if the Fed doesn't deliver."

www.vancouversun.com...

reply to post by TheRemedial


Interesting indeed. Obama announces and gives a statement, the markets plummet faster than they did before he gave the speech. The FED announces a statement and the stocks are rising and it seems as if they'll rise even further after the speech is given. Shows whose who and insider info in this game.

Today, the FOMC Meeting will begin at 3:30 PM EDT.

Here is a link to the live feed:

www.ustream.tv...

and a link to the USTREAM main page for the fed:

www.ustream.tv...

reply to post by Druid42


I started my thread here (www.abovetopsecret.com... ) so this thread could stay more focused on the financial issues

You can´t have a credible rally with 40 stocks hitting a new high and 800 stocks hitting a new low. That´s a bear market bounce, about nothing else. Most of it is shorts taking profits before the next leg down.

Originally posted by Jordan River
Can someone explain why the U.s has a rebound? I am no stock guy

My guess is Bernanke and Geithner (the Wonder Twins) injected a boatload of ghost liquidity into the system already. I'm sure he'll briefly mention it in his 2:15 cameo, but I suspect a bunch of back patting more than anything else.

As for the FED throwing any bones, that´s ridiculous. The FED is practically bankrupt. It´s leveraged 60-1 against its capital. That´s worse than Lehman. It should be put in receivership immediately. Anything else is highly irresponsible.

At the FOMC meeting, they're talking about raising the rate of per transaction fees for debit cards. This they say is to combat fraud and also to help cover the costs to merchants and issuers for networking etc.

Ultimately this will affect the economy badly IMO. This will raise the cost at any "merchant" plus it will raise the cost to the consumer. This is a BAD policy for our economy at this point. Not to mention that the "issuers" (MC, Visa, etc.) will make more money per transaction. The fed is finding ways to help out the banks again

The policy is to become effective if they approve it without changes on October 11, 2011. Right now, they're calling it a "preliminary rule."

They want to raise the maximum fee per transaction (interchange fees) to $.21 per transaction from $.07 per transaction PLUS $.01 per transaction to cover the prevention of fraud (which they said is also a cost).

the fed really doesn't have much room to do anything here. they can't pump money into the system if they don't have it and, since Obama is still hellbent on spending money he doesn't have (somalia anyone), the press conference will probably be more talk about how the downgrade is unwarranted and how the economy is growing, just not as fast as we'd like.

once word gets out that the fed isn't doing anything to prop up the markets, the selling will start again. that's how I see it happening.

I'd be totally shocked if the fed says they're going to start buying up bonds again. It doesn't seem possible, given the lack of funds. What amazes me is that the public will see this as a good thing when, in reality, the gov't will borrow the funds or get the money via taxes and then the gov't will make money on the bond purchase program and, like every other deal the fed has made, the taxpayer will be left shortchanged.