Oklahoma City hit with DANGEROUS RADIATION levels from Rain on Aug 6th 2011 [VIDEO]

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Holy moly.

This video was allegedly taken in Oklahoma City on 8/6/11.

It shows a man wiping rain water off of trash cans and then placing what appears to be a geiger counter on top of the wipe-rag making the counter go way up.

I would love to hear some expert ATS opinions on this.

Why are the numbers fluctuation so much? Its high is 1.19 and its low is .36. I dont under stand. If it has radiation on it shouldn't it be constant? My next question is why use a rag? Why not find a puddle of water, I mean the thing is in a plastic bag.

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Is that geiger counter from walmart? Looks like an Ipod app to me.

Originally posted by type0civ
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Is that geiger counter from walmart? Looks like an Ipod app to me.

Jump to conclusions much?

That is a 'SOEKS Geiger counter'

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I doubt walmart sells Geiger counters - and yeah, that's definitely not an iPod...

I don't know where the other guy saw 1.19 as the max - it looked like it went to 1.62...and didn't seem to be fluctuating much...just doing what a Geiger counter does

Originally posted by sabbathcrazy
Why are the numbers fluctuation so much? Its high is 1.19 and its low is .36. I dont under stand. If it has radiation on it shouldn't it be constant?

It takes time for a sensor to detect decaying particles.

Different isotopes decay at different speeds, some quickly, some more slowly. So it will take awhile for a sensor to take a reading and "count" the radiation emissions it is capturing.

Also, radiation doesn't "get on" things, at least not in the sense you said it. The radioisotope particles are what 'gets on' things, and as they decay they emit radiation.

The radiation comes in different wavelengths, just like light. Some wavelengths like Alpha radiation are easily deflected by the surface of our skin. So internal exposure is minimal unless we get the actual radioactive material inside of us. However Gamma radiation can go right through things, so it can cause internal damage as opposed to say surface damage only.

All of those "clicks" you hear on the sensor device are essentially the sound when a radioactive particle makes contact with it. The more clicks, the more radiation hits it received.

In fact, according to various sources I have read, radiation emitted by decaying particles includes photons. Photons are light particle-waves.

So I suppose a really good metaphor is the Sun. Envision each atom as being a star. Certain stars are more unstable and therefore emit more radiation.

I believe the video is most likely showing us an accurate reading of the dirt/water mixture on top of this guys garbage can. It claims Oklahoma City as the source, but there is no verification of that yet. This could be easily verified if anyone with sensor devices cared to investigate.

This means that the background radiation levels detected went up by a factor of 7 or 8 times. That's pretty impressive honestly, considering this is an outdoor location and we could be facing this type of reality throughout the Northern Hemisphere for quite a long long time.

The reason you see it "fluctuating" is because it's counting decays per minute and displaying the average.

So you will see large changes in readout when you first start measuring, but if you measure over 10 minutes or so those readings will fluctuate less and less.

I wish I had a geiger counter. Very disappointed that the EPA has stopped taking this matter seriously. They stopped taking it seriously months ago. I'm also very disappointed in universities - it seems every university that offers programs in environmental fields, physics, etc should have an interest in monitoring and sharing their results.

What you don't know CAN kill you.

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I believe the video is most likely showing us an accurate reading of the dirt/water mixture on top of this guys garbage can.

Very informative, thanks.

Question: Is there anything he could have mixed in with the water prior that could give a same reading?

edit to add: Apparently youtuber FireByNight originally uploaded it. Here's his description :

Aug 6, 2011 Oklahoma City First Rain Since Drought Started.

Rain stopped long enough to go outside and see what came down in the rain. Got rain sample from top of plastic trash bin. Started raining again toward the end of the video. I had to stop and get out of it. You can come to your own conclusion of what is going on in this video.

Originally posted by vermonster

Question: Is there anything he could have mixed in with the water prior that could give a same reading?

Totally possible.

However, why bother when common sense tells us we could get the same readings from nature without having to bother to fake it?

So yeah, it could be a set up, but I doubt it.

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So if this is actually occurring in OKC then what does that mean for the rest of the country, say the east coast?

Originally posted by Backslider
Very disappointed that the EPA has stopped taking this matter seriously. They stopped taking it seriously months ago.

They had to cover it up because it would crash the fake economy big time.

If people were seeking fallout shelters and doing what we probably should be doing, there would be no more business as usual.

And consider the irony of the situation. Everyone is freaking out over a fake economic collapse (SP a speculator group speculates America isn't worth a AAA credit score), yet few people seem to notice that is all fantasy based debt, etc.

However a real economic crisis is the fact that North-East Honshu has become uninhabitable for at least a few hundred years, and we have no reasonable clean up technology that could put a dent into it. This will take like 30years for these people to finally realize, after the miscarriages and deformities skyrocket decades on end.

That means one of the most important economies in the world has had it's death knell. It's just a matter of time now for the dominoes to fall into place.

But isn't it ironic? Most people are thinking the collapse will come from bank loans and other fake imaginary concepts on a piece of paper.

However the reality is that there are far more severe economic issues than mere ideology these days.

I just find it extremely ironic and it shows me how duped most people really are about the current state of affairs on Earth...

Originally posted by vermonster
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So if this is actually occurring in OKC then what does that mean for the rest of the country, say the east coast?

In a way it sort of implies that *if* this stuff is *from* Fukushima, than obviously it's all over everything now. Even in Europe or Central Asia.

The distance it was able to travel is very great, and it's dilution rate was far lower than they assumed and told everyone on the media when this first happened.

We don't even know what type of isotopes were detected either, which leaves a huge blank we need filled.

The only way to really know, is that we all need a few extra hundred $ so we can get sensor devices ourselves and go out and find out first hand.

There are other possibilities though. It could be from another source, and not from Fukushima. There are hundreds of potential sources that radiation readings in the rain could originate from.

That's probably the worst part about all of this. We have no way of figuring out how much of this stuff is around us or where exactly it's coming from. The industry guards their secrets very closely, and fears us ever finding out anything about anything going wrong. So they have a track record of cover ups and downplaying things.

So who knows where the source is from really, it could be from anywhere. It could be from the USA....

I hate that part, where we have no data and cannot trust any "authorities". It sucks.

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I hate that part, where we have no data and cannot trust any "authorities". It sucks.

Yes.

I miss those days when I heard a news clip that said everything is OK and I actually believed it....

ooh wait....do I?

Who has a geiger counter on ATS?

I'd love to see if this is actually happening all over.

Chime in ATS geiger counter owners, where you at?

first his meter is set on microsieverts(mcSv)
this is 1000 times lower then millisieverts(mSv)
this is 1000,000 times lower one sieverts(Sv/)

1 Sv=100 rems

if you eat a banana every day is equivalent to 3.6 mrem per year.
Maximum allowable exposure for U.S. radiation workers 50Sv/yr

You are exposed in a CT scan to about 15 mSv

Now to cover the video rain absorbs radon gas and will absorb radioactive dust from coal fired power plants.

you have 6 coal fired power plants within 150 miles of Oklahoma City.


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Originally posted by vermonster
Who has a geiger counter on ATS?

I'd love to see if this is actually happening all over.

Chime in ATS geiger counter owners, where you at?

If someone who is knowledgable says what model to buy, I'll order one tonight.

I don't trust many internet electronic sellers.

I live in OKC, can someone explain to me a little bit about radiation levels, what is a high count of radiation exposure in the numbers its showing or not because if we got high levels over here Im out of here.

You have several sources of radioactivity in rain. Natural sources like radon and its decay products, or other natural uranium decay products. Local coal plants. Local nuclear plants. Remnants of atomic bomb fallout. Remnants of Chernobyl or other nuclear accidents. And finally, and most alarmingly, Fukushima.

It's hard to say how much of this is from Fukushima without a large data set both before and after March 2011. Generally, until Fukushima hit, people weren't wiping down rainfall and sticking it to be measured with their personal geiger counters. But the notion that prior to Fukushima, we lived in some radiation-free paradise, is just not accurate. I would say, it seems pretty clear that regardless of the source of this, we wouldn't want to be drinking rainwater every day. I imagine that would have been true prior to Fukushima.

What is not apparent in this measurement is how much of this radiation was from short-half-life decay products like Iodine, which wouldn't really be a huge issue in some rainwater, and how much is from more deadly products like plutonium/uranium/cesium/strontium. Mathematically, most of the radiation would likely be from the fast-decay products. So the highest reading isn't necessarily the most deadly reading. If one would accurately measure the radiation level over a period of weeks, one could determine the distribution of the types of isotopes present. I doubt most people would be capable of such a calculation though.

I'm in OKC also. Guess it's time to start taking the kelp pills again.