Message from Anonymous: Operation Facebook, Nov 5 2011

Originally posted by Spotless
And regarding your statement about suicidal kids i think its just straight forward evolution in action. Its for the greater good.

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say here? Its early and I haven't had any coffee!

PS - you have assumed that I don't know that person. Maybe I do...

attention

If everyone would please stop calling Anonymous' efforts "script kiddy" attacks it would be highly appreciated by the collaborate of Anonymous.

If you believe Anonymous is a bunch of script kiddies you are wildly mistaken. Anonymous is a collaboration of everyone from ex-military computer specialists to security experts all the way down to moles inside of Facebook, more than likely.

You should stop slandering them. If they use a DDOS attack it proves a point, and while they need others to help them, it shows that the individuals assisting them in the attack stand proud in their beliefs and want change. Otherwise they would not join in, it shows that many, many, many people want change.

You cannot DDOS a site and magically obtain all of their passwords and information, as they've blatantly displayed they are quite efficient and revealing information that people do not want released.

Anonymous is much more than simple script kiddies. You have no clue, what so ever, who the biggest shots in Anonymous are - why? Because regardless of the videos and press, no one has to stand by Anonymous's side to be Anonymous, they are everyone, and anyone, and if they don't like the way the world is operated, and they are willing to fight to change, then they agree with Anonymous's efforts and mission, and that is what matters.

Think before you speak, everyone.

Originally posted by Spotless
reply to post by NerdGoddess

 

Do you really need a car to talk to your friends ? What about instant messengers, email, IRC ? All these alternatives are relatively safe to use.
I deal with internet marketing and from my point of view your facebook profile is worth a lot of money to facebook other people in the long run. Your single account is insignificant, but groups of accounts can tell a lot.
Facebook was caught selling information to market research companies without letting people know.

Im 100% with anon on this.

I've seen people here ask a weird question why would anonymous hurt "people" and not the government. Well actually the intention behind this is to keep people safe and take a great tool of mass control from TPTB.
The worst part of this is that people don't realise how important this wikipedia of people is. People don't think a harmless site could do anything to influence their or their loved ones lifes. But it can. You just don't know about it yet.

To be honest, I did not even think of instant messenger, and yeah I do text my friends. I guess facebook is another more expendable way of communicating.

Originally posted by JustSomeGuy74

Originally posted by DarkSarcasm
This does sound more like the MO of anonymous. I've been thinking about deleting my Facebook account for a while now, I don't use it and its never good if you're looking for a job and have anything at all to hide, employers are now frequently using Facebook as a reference even if it is not listed. A ddos wouldn't really do much but if they really want to get their point across, a complete server erasure would do the job.

This makes me think about another thread about anonymous leaking private info where I mentioned their mo was not to release info but to encourage anonymity. I mean, it should be blatantly obvious that they are simply used as a scapegoat for info release hacks. If they are blamed for these its not true, just look back at their other claimed "attacks". They really avoid blatently breaking tue law, they simply encourage you to be private and tolerant to the privacy of others.

Just my Opinion, but your signature saying is reversed...might wanna look into that. Whatever, right?!

TROLLIN

No, something must first be possible before it can be probable. I believe you may need to review the definitions of possibility and probability. If something is not possible then its occurance has no probability. If it is possible then probability can be calculated.

Try to stay on topic next time, a u2u would have been fine.

Originally posted by NerdGoddess

Originally posted by Spotless
reply to post by NerdGoddess

 

Do you really need a car to talk to your friends ? What about instant messengers, email, IRC ? All these alternatives are relatively safe to use.
I deal with internet marketing and from my point of view your facebook profile is worth a lot of money to facebook other people in the long run. Your single account is insignificant, but groups of accounts can tell a lot.
Facebook was caught selling information to market research companies without letting people know.

Im 100% with anon on this.

I've seen people here ask a weird question why would anonymous hurt "people" and not the government. Well actually the intention behind this is to keep people safe and take a great tool of mass control from TPTB.
The worst part of this is that people don't realise how important this wikipedia of people is. People don't think a harmless site could do anything to influence their or their loved ones lifes. But it can. You just don't know about it yet.

To be honest, I did not even think of instant messenger, and yeah I do text my friends. I guess facebook is another more expendable way of communicating.

Yup, completely expendable. Why do we need another reason to sit on our a**es, we already have cable, video games, internet, apps, and so on and so forth. I can entertain myself without privacy reduction.

reply to post by b3l13v3


Then quit employing tactics that you accuse the Government of doing. Quit demanding transparency when you yourselves hide behind the internet. Quit making decisions for people based on your own personal beliefs.

Learn how the Government works and who makes the laws. Misleading people by going after Police while claiming they are keeping secrets doesnt change the laws you guys claim ot hate. Further demanding they open their records while keeping your secret is the very same issues you guys rail against.

Your attacks on police wesbites will od more harm ot the people than it will the police. You guys are single handedly screwing the people over that you claim to be representing. You guys have no cencept of your actions in that realm. You are jeopradizing current criminal as well as civil cases, witness / victim tampering, obstruction and again, outright screwing people over.

You guys shold take your own advice about thinking before doing.

You have become exactly what you hate the government for. Because the government does things you dont like, you attack them.

I would make the comment its ironic, but your groups level of arrogance and ignorance couldnt possibly process that concept.

reply to post by doom27


Be really interesting to see if they really pull it off in the mist of the crisis to come.

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
if they really want to destroy facebook completely, gather evidence that facebook is selling personal information to the government.

it would be a HUGE news story and people would boycott.

No they wouldn't.

Google has had long term cooperation with the US intelligence agencies (the googleplex now has better data & technology).

Originally posted by Forevever
reply to post by Forevever

 

however, I will say that they are absolutely correct - there is no privacy on facebook, or anywhere - even after you delete your account - (ATS members recently found a deleted FB account in google cache, among other sites)


So I'm gonna go head and support this message. People need to wake up to the fact that they're being watched. There is no such thing as internet privacy, I don't care how much you paid for it.

I would be careful who you support and where you point fingers. If you think your ATS account is somehow "safe", you are mistaken. Just like Facebook save your data/posts indefinitely, so too does ATS. I would be FAR more worried about some of the postings on ATS than anything I've seen on facebook.

reply to post by Xcathdra

Is government leaking information to the public about things which are under an unwritten rule of silence ?
You see what happens when wannabe cracker kiddies don't protect themselfs enough on the internet.
Im pretty sure in governments eyes they're like terrorists. Which in a good way, they are.

I believe at this point of technological advancement every single organization should release to the public every single piece of information they have. This is when we will truly evolve further as human beings. Corruption is like a thousand year old trees roots. Its everywhere. Police, congress, hospitals, lawyers, shopping malls, food, water, electricity suppliers. Imagine if you had the resources to read any email. What if you find out that your government is a big bucket of black tar with only some truthseekers ? Government should work for the people and people should work for the government. Nowadays it's pretty damn obvious to me that this ideal system is not working at all. There are too many secrets. I wish the whole anon community could "come out and play", but thats just not possible. And you know that my friend.

Anonymous attacks didn't kill anyone. But the US government is currently in 4 warzones atm killin' "terrorists" (or is even more now) ?

Btw i don't think b3l13v3 is in any way releated to anon. He's just stating the obvious.

i do not understand why would u take down facebook ,we are all. being watched. no matter were u are at . big brother is everywhere. n the way the economy is going the majority of folks already have bad credit , so who would want to use ther credit ! and the authorities do what they want as usual n many of us know that 1st hand so why hurt those that have done nothing but find a way to keep up with family n friends ? face book is how i keep up with my kids n they r across the ocean n the rest r scattered across r country

If I'm missing something, anyone can feel free to point it out to me, but you'd better pm me, cuz I'm not coming back to reread this thread, but.....

If a website uses information, such as the geographic location of an individuals' ip address, so that, for instance, I get to see real estate ads that are relevant to me, and said website charges said advertisers for their ads, which they do, how is it any different from FB knowing that you happened to click on this or that ad, or have this or that interest?

This raises two questions:
What revenue generating website doesn't do this?
Is your geographic location more or less private than your taste for budweiser or porn?

I doubt that FB is a serious target.
I doubt Anonymous cares.
I've been wrong before.

reply to post by axslinger


I rarely post on facebook - if they want to kick me off ATS thats fine
I'll support who I want

if I was capable of hacking anything I would definitely get involved in the cause

unlike some people, I can live without Facebook and without ATS

there's always pogo

Originally posted by NerdGoddess
To be honest, I did not even think of instant messenger, and yeah I do text my friends. I guess facebook is another more expendable way of communicating.

You mean Facebook is another choice.

Let's attack people's choice irregardless of their freedom to choose. If people wish to register on Facebook and facilitate a social network then so be it, let them deal with the consequences. An attack on my freedom to choose is far more violent then on the consequences of my actions because I can learn from the latter, I'm prevented from learning with the former.

These kinds of actions do not represent the people, the people are simply the mask.

reply to post by Spotless


You are ignoring the problem while trying to justify their actions. What purpose does it serve to attack Facebook? If they dont like facebook thats their problem. Why is their hatred of facebook of paramount importance over those people who like and use facebook?

As far as attacking Police websites, again you and the others dont get it. Releasing information from the police will jeopradize criminal investigations and cases. It will hurt the people more than it will hurt the police. Evidence compromised and unusable in court, victims of rape and abuse made know to the public, along with what happened to them and where they currently live.

That information is not a matter of public record right away for obvious reasons. It protects the victims by allowing redress, and protects the accused by virtue of being judged by their peers or a judge and not the court of public opinion.

Its not your, nor their business, to know that Mary Joe, age 16, was gang raped by 3 highschool classmates.
Its not your, nor their business that Joe Schmoe has been accused of molesting children.

Its no ones business until after the court proceedings are done.

The simple fact you guys dont grasp these basic consequences tells me its not about transparency or what you and them consider what is right or waht is wrong. They aret on a crusade to protect the people from the government.

They are punishing the people who are perfectly fine with the current Government.

Also, feel free to provide the following:
Full name
Address
Soc#
Drivers license #
bank account information
all of your wifes info
kids info
their school
your medical history
any diseases you have


If you are going to demand transparency, then feel free to start with yourselves. Absent that these groups are no better than radical terror groups whose leaders tell their followers to strap on a bomb and go blow themsleves up in a crowded market.

You ugys are being used to push their agenda, and their agenda does not have your best intrests anywhere near their radar.

I would highly dislike, if Anonymous destroyed Facebook.

For private reasons (I met some real friends there I wouldn't have met withouth Facebook), and for political reasons:

Facebook played an important role in the revolution in Egypt in the spring of this year. The revolutionaires used Facebook to organize their protests, but also, at all, to make their revolution known to the worldwide public.

madamenoire.com...

www.theatlanticwire.com...

www.theatlanticwire.com...


I don't care if they use my personal information to gain profit. Because that's what everybody does on the internet.

My freedom is to decide the kind of information I give to them.

Good I hope they destroy everything, wont happen tho...amateurs!

reply to post by visualmiscreant


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Their giving people time to find a new means of communicating, their not trying to screw the people at all. And what exactly do you think anyone can do to prepare for an attack on the internet?

just for the record - no one has any conclusive evidence that this is even on Anonymous agenda

all we have is a tweet and a youtube video

those who did go to the whatis-theplan found nothing

and someone else believes it was something that was supposed to go down last month

Originally posted by ohhwataloser
reply to post by visualmiscreant

 

www.youtube.com...

Their giving people time to find a new means of communicating, their not trying to screw the people at all. And what exactly do you think anyone can do to prepare for an attack on the internet?

They are screwing any individual who likes facebook who does not want to find another social site.

They are childish little hypocrites throwing a temper tantrum because they arent getting their way, plain and simple.

Who are they to decide for everyone else?