Latest Picture of Comet Elenin, STEREO-B Will Capture First Today

I have been hearing all the fear mongers on the net and i'm not saying that this thread is that but I was curious about all this Elenin stuff so I did some research (actual research (not a youtube search))... and what I found was not that scary at all.

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It seems to me that the alignments do correspond but there are thousands of earthquakes every year. So I wonder how much of this can be calked up to coincidence.

thoughts?

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EDIT to add: Thanks for providing the link to the chart.

Also it shows a timeline of 2007-2012, whereas Elenin wasn't discovered until 2010, so I'm curious who provided this chart.

As for where I got the chart, I made it but I got the info from JPL data going backwards and I used the USGS site to get the earthquake dates.

I know it wasn't discovered until 2010 but the claim by lots of people is that it has been affecting us for years now. I wasn't so sure, and now i'm less sure.

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There, a full size image. More details can be seen now.

Sorry about the hassle...

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Thanks for the link, it's a pretty cool chart.

Yes, and just because it wasn't discovered until 2010, we must not forget it obviously existed before that!

Originally posted by BobAthome

Originally posted by Phage
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Luck had nothing to do with it.

so my question,,
whats new speed estimate?

Originally posted by ArcIo
It seems to me that the alignments do correspond

What do you call an "alignment" to an earthquake?
Within 4 hours?
Within 14 hours?
Within 19.901 hours?
Within 33.333331 hours?
Within 2.445 days?
Within 1.090001 weeks?

And, more importantly, how did you use to decide that was the "correct" figure to use and not any other number?

Alignment to an earthquake for me is within 24 hours but most people seem to accept up to 3 days (and more in some cases) this to me seems silly. So what I did is looked at the earthquakes that were over 5 and found the ones with an alignment of any kind within a day.

As for the more important question, and I agree it is an important question, I'm not sure there is a correct answer. I mean i think we can all agree it's not a year, a month or week but if there is a major quake within 24 hours, it's "interesting" but the fact that there are SOOO many other quakes and lots of other big quakes, I'm not sure if it adds up to more than coincidence.

In the beginning, I was a little nervous, that came from ignorance, but now I'm a LITTLE more educated and a LOT less worried about it.

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The problem with that however is that there are about 1500-2000 5.0+ earthquakes every year. So, no matter when an alignment occurs the odds are on there being multiple 5.0+ earthquakes within 24 hours.

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This is exactly what I found. This is why after making this graphic, I'm far less worried about this thing. There are so many of the 5.0+ that instead, I looked at the alignments and found the size of the quake and if it was over 5, I listed it.

Comet C/2010 X1 Elenin is now visible in the HI1 images from STEREO B. At least I think it is.

It's a (surprise) fuzzy dot.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ce926fbffc49.png[/atsimg]


If you view recent images (10 or so) as a slideshow you can clearly see its motion.

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Looks like a massive non-reflective planet with a red outer atmosphere to me. Hardly something we should ignore.

Originally posted by ArcIo
Alignment to an earthquake for me is within 24 hours ...

Just going back to this point. After thinking about it for a little while longer I've realised that a fixed time isnt a "one size fits all" solution. If you ever do this again you might use angles instead of time.
The outer planets move slowly, in terms of alignments they could be within the same angle (eg half a degree) for a week, especially if turning to or from retrograde motion. Whereas the same "within half a degree" alignment of a close flyby comet or mercury may only last a few hours.
Just a thought. I really dont think its worth the bother doing that analysis again though.

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looks like an image artefact to me

Here's an animation. Speedy little guy.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b980aba1aa0d.gif[/atsimg]

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Thank you Phage for all info00 ..





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Bump. Any new shots from Amateur Astronomers?

Originally posted by R0muLus
Bump. Any new shots from Amateur Astronomers?

Saw one on the Leonids site updated from the 21st, taken by Terry Lovejoy (not exactly ametuer...?)

Spaceobs.org

have they confirmed its orbit yet?

Originally posted by BobAthome
have they confirmed its orbit yet?

"They" confirmed its orbit back in December last year.

There have been refinements since then, but only in tiny decimal places of no real significance.
For all practical purposes, the comet has not deviated from the orbit measured back then.
Anyone who has ever actually looked at the comet through a telescope has ALWAYS found it in the expected place.
It has never been observed to be "off course"

But of course, wackjobs dont believe this, and the conspiracy lives on.