(Disturbing Videos) King Kalien and Momma K.

Oh god, I've seen a ton of his mom's videos.
It's just sick... There's ones where his mom makes him film her while she's naked in the bathtub and where she does these sexual dances in lingerie. The kid is obviously screwed up in the head, no doubt from the way his mom treats him. She was sexually abused as a child (which she admits in some videos), and I think she's fallen in love with her son as a subconscious way of telling herself it's ok to have incestuous relationships and there's nothing wrong with her.
This is the way serial killers are made, folks. The kid needs help, even though he denies it.

Originally posted by mustangill
reply to post by drew1749

 

Dude, 15 is grown in this day and time, where do you live where a 15 year old child isnt considered grown. Oh, thats right you said you live in Kentucky. Then you probably live on a farm and you know how to drive already. You have already gone thru puberty are are going through it presently at 15 years of age. Some are even working at 15 years of age, heck for that matter some have been working since 13 years of age. Seriously, you gonna tell me that 16 aint a grown man? Are you really that dense?

Your arguments are getting old 15 is not considered an adult in Canada You are NOT considered an adult in Canada at the age of 15.
Answer this question would you allow your child to be subjected to this kind of abuse and don't avoid this question.

And if this was your child would you want the abuse to be exposed or to be kept a secret so that the abuse continues.

No one here meant any harm the to the child or the mother, people just wanted the child to be safe and if the mother is insane she would automatically get help for it here in Canada. Whats the harm in that.

Here is another Question do you think we should go back to the days where we don't talk about child abuse?
The days where child abuse was kept secret and nobody knew it was going on?

Originally posted by mustangill
reply to post by drew1749

 

reported? wasn't you suppose to report that lady and her teenager today? You didn't report them but your gonna report me? common dude, show me something better, im falling asleep here. Show me some evidence or something. Lets get this debate thing going.

I think you lost the debate a long long time ago.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by AreaJerm
It's irrelevant if she was raped twice(because she probably wasn't), that gives her no right to force feed her kid fertilizer until he throws up or make him film you in the bathtub or vice versa.

I've found exactly NO evidence anywhere for the allegations of eating fertilizer and him videoing her in the bathtub. The stuff he was eating didn't look like any kind of fertilizer I've ever seen, and I've found no evidence at all for the bathtub video other than someone making the accusation and someone else swearing to it.

just another wierd ass hippy chick, and the world is full of those. We don't generally send them to jail for it.

The fertilizer thing was made up by someone to demonize the family. There is a lot of lies about this family going around on the internet. But the santa video speaks for itself. The so called fertilizer is actually key lime pie according to the family.

reply to post by semperfortis


I'm glad you showed up. Sorry will follow the rules thank you.

Just leave the breastfeeding out of it, and the vegan lifestyle, and see what is left.



•The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that "Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child... Increased duration of breastfeeding confers significant health and developmental benefits for the child and the mother... there is no upper limit•The American Academy of Family Physicians recommends that breastfeeding continue throughout the first year of life and that "As recommended by the WHO, breastfeeding should ideally continue beyond infancy, but this is not the cultural norm in the United States and requires ongoing support and encouragement. It has been estimated that a natural weaning age for humans is between two and seven years. Family physicians should be knowledgeable regarding the ongoing benefits to the child of extended breastfeeding, including continued immune protection, better social adjustment, and having a sustainable food source in times of emergency. The longer women breastfeed, the greater the decrease in their risk of breast cancer." They also note that "If the child is younger than two years of age, the child is at increased risk of illness if weaned." (AAFP 2008)
•A US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (Novello 1990)
•The World Health Organization emphasizes the importance of nursing up to two years of age or beyond (WHO 1993, WHO 2002).
•Scientific research by Katherine A. Dettwyler, PhD shows that 2.5 to 2.5 to 7.0 years of nursing is what our children have been designed to expect (Dettwyler 1995).




Additional information from the La Leche League emphasizes that the longer breastmilk is given, the greater its benefits for the child. The milk can be pumped rather than nursed, of course.www.llli.org...


And finally, we had a poster on ATS who shared "butter in a jar" recipes, and stated that his wife made butter from her own breastmilk, and he did not have any problems with it or from it. Whatever this woman may be doing, condemning her for breastfeeding and eating edible flowers is a waste of time, and makes the claims lose some credibility.

If the boy filmed his mom inappropriately, prove it, or leave it alone. Time will always tell, after all. If there is a problem, it will certainly not go away.
If there is not, then this is persecution. Why decide on a bunch of admitted allegations?

Where are the marks? The fear? The emotional withdrawal? At the very least, I see a woman who does what she thinks is best and idolizes her son.
At worst, a witch-hunt.

reply to post by Copperflower


The only thing that concerns me about the vegan life style is the fact that soy has estrogen. For a young girl there isn't a problem, But for a young developing male child the estrogen from the soy would feminize the male child.

reply to post by enament

The so called fertilizer is actually key lime pie according to the family.

I'm okay with this.avi

Really where did you see this at? If this is the case I no longer feel as bad about the family.

reply to post by drew1749


Man am I ever glad the mods showed up to put an end to the endless arguments. I seen it in one of the videos. It wasn't the one about being naked in the rain ,it did however have rain in the title I think it might have been walking in the rain.

reply to post by enament


This is a valid concern, but not abuse, not worthy of the type of hell this family would go through.

Being a vegan, I am sure this mom knows more about her son's diet than the average American.

Although I am not a vegan, mothers who are have continued to impress me with their health and the health and well-being of their children.

That is not abuse. It is usually follows lots of research, and most vegans that I have known are super-careful about their kids.

Just doesn't add up to unfit, to me. Our sons are being feminized all the time by estrogen-mimicking chemicals in our foods, especially canned foods.

Not this woman's fault. Where is the tolerance on OUR parts? Playing music too loud is just not good enough to stir people up to action.
At least it shouldn't be.
So she's a hippie? Lots of people feed their kids vegetarian foods, especially Indian people in my area.

And? Soy formula is given to boy and girl babies alike, as well. Not good enough!

reply to post by enament


If it really was pie then I need to do some serious thinking about this topic. I mean my facts steam from ED.

It's likely we're still right the videos are evidence enough of a problem.

Originally posted by drew1749
reply to post by enament

 

If it really was pie then I need to do some serious thinking about this topic. I mean my facts steam from ED.

It's likely we're still right the videos are evidence enough of a problem.

Found your problem. This and the fact that you think you are right and everyone else is wrong. If the videos were evidence enough of a problem then CPS would have stepped in when 4chan originally started this witch-hunt. Why continue a debate on a long dead issue?

reply to post by BIGPoJo


They did step in according to the mothers blog.

reply to post by drew1749


So they already know about her?

Then I don't understand why this is any of your or our business.

What exactly is your agenda here?

Really so in this logic child porn that clearly shows the perpetrators face is just hearsay and rumors. If videos aren't evidence then what is?

These videos that you provided and the videos that I have found on my own are evidence. The evidence clearly shows NO abuse. BTW, how old are you? Just curious.

reply to post by drew1749


9th Commandment

The Ninth Commandment "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” Exodus 20:16 False speaking in any matter, every attempt or purpose to deceive our neighbor, is included. An intention to deceive is what constitutes falsehood. By a glance of the eye, a motion of the hand, an expression of the countenance, a falsehood may be told as effectually as by words. All intentional overstatement, every hint or insinuation calculated to convey an erroneous or exaggerated impression, even the statement of facts in such a manner as to mislead, is falsehood. This precept forbids every effort to injure our neighbor's reputation by misrepresentation or evil surmising, by slander or tale bearing. Even the intentional suppression of truth, by which injury may result to others, is a violation of the ninth commandment. Any intention to deceive constitutes falsehood. God looks upon the heart, and any words that are spoken which do not convey our real feelings are registered in God's books as untruthful. What a different world this would be, if this guideline for peace was really put into daily practice in all of our lives.

There is your sin!

GOD's Holy Law

reply to post by Greensage


i saw the ED video, which is a compilation of her crimes according to the gentleman who created the video. some of the evidences he uses against her are actually just nit-picking her unique view of food, life, death and men. he makes a few salient points as well, such as the videos of being filmed in the tub and the question is still up in the air if that santa video was actually filmed by her son or not. he does seem frail and weak, but that doesn't necessarily stem from his diet (emotional trauma can do the same thing). most of the stuff used against her are not really issues at all, and show the misuse of the internet and how easy it is to manipulate public opinion by appealing to hot button issues, such as veganism, female empowerment, the feminization of males, and etc. every page she has made, her businesses, every youtube account, every facebook account, they have hunted down and harrassed the woman and linked them on ED so everyone else who is interested in kicking the allegedly crazy woman can get their shot in.

the ED video dude claims she is bat # crazy. if he really thinks that, he has no business putting her alleged insanity up for public scrutiny. she needs a doctor in that case not the entire internet bashing on her.

I'm done talking. Mods lock this thread if needed.

Nothing important is going on here anymore. Just bickering between people who are clearly upset at me for trying to help someone out. Remove and lock this thread if you can. If you can't well leave it open.

I'm out. I hope you're all happy.