NEWS* Crop circles possible prediction?

Originally posted by soaringhawk
reply to post by 1PLA1

 

I don't believe they are e.t in how most think of e.t. So no.

Please explain.

OP, in reply to my last post you said that there isn't a firm prediction, but only that your "inside people" have told you that August will be "one hell of the month", for lack of better words. That's a direct quote.

Are you saying that literally anything could happen, and if it does, you will interpret it as being a fulfillment of or in relationship to these crop circles? In retrsoect? Without any proof of connection or any specific prediction to tie it to? And if so, is that not an unfalsifiable claim? I'm just asking.

Thanks again.

reply to post by Deetermined


I just meant not the typical 'green men or light gray with large eyes. There is plenty of life here on earth we haven't discovered and unknown species are being found often. Maybe these legitimate crop circles are made by life native to our earth but exist in a way we don't understand.

reply to post by dilly1


Well most are no doubt man made. But some, I don't know. I have no reason to lie, neither does my sis. But she saw a bright light out the window years ago and it was after that we saw grass down in a circle. I'm 27 now and I have never seen anything like it again. I live in a neighborhood with no kids, mostly elderly and back then it was older teenagers and adults in their 40's that never cared about that sort of thing.

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Maybe you should go back to my link on www.cropcirclefacts.com and check out all of the videos showing light orbs creating a crop circle on film.

Originally posted by quedup
Show me a crop circle that is made by humans and stands up to the same standards ie., those shown.

That's the problem, there's no way of really knowing who made the circles, so they can "stand up to those standards" and be man made and we can never really know it.

Those who believe humans made them all are so outdated - they'd all need to be mathematicians and very quick ones at that oh and judging by this thread they'd need to be very good historians too.

Why, is it more fashionable to believe that things that appear on our backyard are made by some beings that nobody really knows if they really exist? And there's no need for being a historian (much less a very good one) when you know how to read a book or use the Internet, that is an outdated idea.

The man made circles are like kids drawings in kindergarden compared to the sophisticated diagrams that are so precise that they'd be difficult to do on paper for most people let alone a couple of village boys.

The fact that most people cannot do it doesn't mean that people that learned how to do it cannot, some are even easier to do on a field than on a computer.

There are also scientific anomalies that have been demonstrated in these designs that cannot be explained - these are not present in the man made ones.

But were those anomalies present before the appearance of the crop circle? How can we know that the anomalies and the crop circle have the same origin or that they are directly related?

Originally posted by zarp3333
I can't help wondering on what basis are forum moderators chosen. Even with your qualification of your opinion being unpopular, popularity should have nothing to due with moderating a forum with crop circles.

I am not moderating the thread, I am participating as a member.

I assumed a thorough knowledge on the subject would be required and certainly a lack of prejudice.

When moderating we should always be immune to prejudice (although I am sure that happens sometimes, as far as I know we are all humans), but when acting as a member and giving my opinion about any subject I can act as any other member (and I am under the same rules as any other member).

The evidence presented on this very site although circumstantial does not support the idea all crop circles are man made.

The problem is that there isn't any evidence that shows that the alien explanation is better than the man made one. Saying that some unknown being from somewhere did is the same as saying that we do not know if it was a pair of guys just out of some pub.

I give you a fail.

There's no need, I have plenty of my own.

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How can some crap circles be definitely man made and other not? Could it be your faith in aliens? Mmmm wonder? You say you have no reason to lie,no but you sure do have reason speculate though. Your faith in aliens pulls you away from reality. Just because you see a bright light doesn't mean one of your top 3 options must be aliens.

I don't read much into an Elvis on velvet.

Sometimes a snake is just a snake.

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
August? It better be good or I begin to quit this whole conspiracy alien business. I officially quit aliens after Oct.28 2011 passes.

It's put up or shut up for the entire alien business in a few months. Let's see how it goes.

AMEN! I just said the very same thing to my fiance. It went something like, "if the world doesn't change dramatically by October 28th, please remind me to get heavily medicated." I'm OUT and will try my damnedest to rejoin the flock of the ignorantly blissful. Name brand coffee in the morning, 40 hours at work a week, beer and TV, sex then bed hit the restart. Conversations at the water cooler will be about weather and what was on TV. I will also desperately try to want material things again so that I will be really good American.

Here's some more symbolism speculation on the Poirino, Italy crop circle (Jun 13 2010):

The Crop Circle Ea Enki, 2012, Nibiru and Marduk

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

can also tell you about Ea and Enki... they were Sumerian Gods and brothers, sons of the God Anu

Actually, Enki and Ea are one and the same - Ea being the Babylonian name for the Sumerian God Enki. His "brother" would be Enlil.

Originally posted by AnotherSon
Here's some more symbolism speculation on the Poirino, Italy crop circle (Jun 13 2010):

The Crop Circle Ea Enki, 2012, Nibiru and Marduk

Interesting how this article refers to Enki as the bearer of light. So was Lucifer.

"To link the rebellious Sons of God who inhabited the heavenly places , the atmosphere and beyond, to the current non-human intelligent beings we see more and more frequently, so-called "aliens", is not such a large step. Many advanced beings hint at angelic origin in their contact with humans through abductions and channeling. According to cereologists, advanced beings leave cryptic messages about their origins in glyphs and "crop circles". Cereologists have standards by which they measure the authenticity of crop circles, and certainly most have been proven to be of human construct. But there are crop glyphs attributed to advanced non human intelligences, appearing in connection with UFO activity, and most tellingly, alluding to the same place of origin as the rebellious Sons of God. Certain crop circles portraying the solar system demonstrate that the intelligences behind ufos are preoccupied with the planets and asteroid belt, the areas which the Sons of God still have dominion over. If the so-called aliens and their mysterious craft are not themselves the rebel b'nai Elohim, they are at least under the jurisdiction of Satan, the Prince of the Power of the Air."

www.ucl.ac.uk...

Originally posted by Droogie
reply to post by Wolfenz

 

The Oliver Castle video from england, showing the orbs creating a crop circle, is a hoax.

Youtube:

Thread

Yeah I have Heard of the Hoax's and the CGI can be done so Easily today
a child with 3rd party Freeware Software can do it

but what about the Other

In these Day you cant Tell anymore what is real !

For a Perfect Example is a You Tuber called the Faking Hoaxer!

One of his CGI Videos Became a Frenzy on ATS !

The Another International Space Station Orbiting Mars pretty much Convincing !
This guy should be Hired in Some Big Production Movie Business


This Video Below was cut & reedited and Sound was taken Out and was the Name TFH was Covered The Crew were taken Out and just a glimpse (1sec) of them was Shown and was Put on ATS

Into Mars Orbit by TFH - CGI - 2D

TheFakingHoaxer's Channel
www.youtube.com...

Mars... Does this prove we have already been!?, page 1
www.abovetopsecret.com...

as Quite A few were on the Fence (dumbfounded) for a While

as The Hoaxer Showed the same type of filming as it was done on the Apollo Missions same Style came Coloring same Jossel shaking of the handheld Camera Cut and Film change Runoff in The C.M. and Lunar Lander

but who would of Thought of an Amateur that does CGI in 1996 at the Time

That why ive Shown the 1950 Montana and the 1952 Utah Incident where CGI was Unheard of did not Exist
let alone help with a Computer manipulating Film


My Take allways Look for Sources of the past for UFO/Alien Evidence mostly in the 50s

Originally posted by MidnightTide

Originally posted by mossme89
This is another new crop circle. What could it possibly mean?

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edit on 1-8-2011 by mossme89 because: (no reason given)

Means me and the aliens are going to get along JUST FINE.

It also Means Smoke to have a Vision Quest ! and to Open your Mind for a Interesting DAY!!

Very Interesting Conversation About Ufo & Aliens as you gotta Listen !
with Jack Nicholson Telling about UFOS with Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda
as I was Told that it Was All Adlib Among the Actors ! and what they were really smoking was not Tobacco !
during Filming ! make me Wonder if Jack knows Something LOL!

Easy Rider Marijuana and UFO's

Originally posted by Nikola014
You just want to ignore the fact that this crop circles are appearing over the night?

Most crop circles are presented as found, with no way of knowing how long they (whoever "they" may be) took to make it.

Some years ago (maybe 3 or four) there was an intricate crop circle that was presented as appearing over night, but there was a photo from the first phase of the crop circle on the day before.

I don't know if this question has been asked before (I would assume it has been many times - but I'll ask it to the participants of this thread anyway)...

If all these crop circles are man-made (and I'm not convinced they are)...by engineers, who have CAD drawings and instruments and magnetrons and all that...what is the freaking POINT???

Why do it? Why spend the time? I mean, if they're that bright don't they have something better to do with their time than flattening some poor farmer's field in the middle of the night? Is there some purpose behind the creation of these circles by man? I'm seriously asking the question, not trying to provoke anyone. I can't believe that people with this level of intelligence would spend the time and effort just to hoax the world...which is why I'm not convinced that all of them are man-made.

reply to post by Nikola014

Zacharia Setchin wrote a lot about the god Enki. He has many books on the subject, I have read a few, at first I thought the man a heretic, but he does pose some very interesting ideas. You might want to search your local book store or library.

Originally posted by Jansy
I don't know if this question has been asked before (I would assume it has been many times - but I'll ask it to the participants of this thread anyway)...

If all these crop circles are man-made (and I'm not convinced they are)...by engineers, who have CAD drawings and instruments and magnetrons and all that...what is the freaking POINT???

Why do it? Why spend the time? I mean, if they're that bright don't they have something better to do with their time than flattening some poor farmer's field in the middle of the night? Is there some purpose behind the creation of these circles by man? I'm seriously asking the question, not trying to provoke anyone. I can't believe that people with this level of intelligence would spend the time and effort just to hoax the world...which is why I'm not convinced that all of them are man-made.

Agreed.

You only have to go to this website and check out the number of them that have popped up so far this year to know that these aren't all man made. Does anyone really believe that they could be so geometrically perfect if they were created by men....without a sound?

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Originally posted by Blinded
But if they were made by humans, why humans would waste their time to do that?

Why do humans waste time in so many ways? Some write, some paint, some make music, some may make crop circles, from an artistic point of view is just another form of art.

Also the circles are really huge (kms in size), you would need to see from above etc... to make sure the circles are perfectly positioned like they are and perfectly accurate. That would also cost a lot of money.

No, you just need to trust your tools. Also, most aerial photos have one or more types of image distortion.

I don't think the goverments did that either. The only way i see are aliens.

I don't think governments do it either, I think they are done by common people. Some people spend time on ATS, some make crop circles. Some may do both.

Aliens to let us know what happened, what will happen in this reality.

Then why do they do it in that roundabout way? Why not be clear about it? And why the difference between the crop circles from 10 years ago and the new ones, without being closer to an explanation?

I mean, explain to me with the solid proof that humans created that... But you know, there is a lot of humans one earth, maybe there is someone with a lot of money and like to waste his time and energy to create those for the whole world to believe in his creation.

I cannot explain with solid proof that humans created the crop circles, but I know two things (and I'm sure you also know them):
1 - Humans exist
2 - Humans are capable of making complex designs

As for Aliens, I am still waiting for real evidence about their existence, and, after that, that they come to Earth, and then that they make crop circles.

And you don't need a lot of money to make a crop circle, you just need the will to do it.

I don't think they used huge laser technology either to cut the trees or whatever the circle is in to make them perfect.

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Jansy
If all these crop circles are man-made (and I'm not convinced they are)...by engineers, who have CAD drawings and instruments and magnetrons and all that...what is the freaking POINT???

Engineers? No need for engineers for this, anyone with some knowledge of technical drawing can create designs like these.

Why do it? Why spend the time?

Why do painters paint? Why do some people climb mountains (because they are there)? Why do some people cross the British channels swimming? You don't need a complex reason to do anything, you just need to be human.