NEWS* Crop circles possible prediction?

Originally posted by Nikola014
reply to post by AceWombat04

 

Maybe because i don't know what's going to happen in august?

They only said to me that some really big stuff is going to happen.

And I'm not asserting that they didn't say that to you. Or that nothing will happen. I'm just asking:

If you don't know what's going to happen, and therefore you can't tell us what's going to happen, then isn't it possible that literally anything could happen and in retrospect you could link it to this crop pattern and suggest that that prediction was correct? What if something happens but it has zero connection to this? How would you know? How would we?

That's why I'm asking whether it's an unfalsifiable claim, which is a claim someone can make that can't be proved wrong or right ultimately. In effect, an unfalsifiable claim doesn't really tell anyone anything. Anyone could at any time say, "Something big will happen (insert time frame.)" It would be no more or less significant than this crop pattern prediction, because there's no specificity, and it's so ambiguous.

That's all I'm saying. Peace.

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great, detailed work. Thanks!

If you go with the conclusion that all crop circles are man-made - as "environmental art" I have another question. Michaelangelo and Botticelli have been mentioned showing the incredible talent, gift and artistry that man is capable of...but Michaelangel, Botticelli, Raphael...all of these artists acknowledged their works...many signed them. Why would environmental artists take the time and trouble to create these amazing things anonymously? Why leave huge enigmas all over the countryside, aware of the controversy they give rise to? Wouldn't you want to be known for such incredible creations?

As to the predictive nature of these occurrences, I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

Euclidean geometry. 3 new diatonic ratios were discovered in crop circles that have been left in the fields.

We're talking about centuries of mathematicians and geometry specialists who have studied Euclidean geometry (also used in physics to explain symmetry) and had never discovered these 3 theorems until they were demonstrated in crop circles.

For that reason alone, they can't all be man-made. Anyone who could discover three new diatonic ratios would absolutely want credit for it as they would be cemented into the history books.

And as another poster pointed out, there have been countless studies done in labs that show the differences between flattened grains from human invention compared to ones that have gone unexplained.

~Namaste

I would like to thank you sincerely for this priceless piece of information. It just fortified my belief that the most intricate crop circles are not man made. I did have the knowledge that naturally made crop circles aren't composed of crushed and flattened crops but those which get lain as smoothly as a stack of dominos, but this whole thing about Euclidean geometry having its provenance in the crop circles is something I didn't know. It's fascinating!

Originally posted by Hr2burn
I'll tell ya, either good or bad, I want this crop circle prediction to come to be. Seems as if there have been many dates that have come and gone that were decoded in c.c.'s. This one feels different. I know many people that feel as I do, that we are just stagnating and we are n the brink of some big change. Again good or bad...somethings got to give.

Couldn't have put it any better myself.

Originally posted by frugal
Not to be rude but why are most of the crop circles in England? It seems like Myan symbols should show up in Mexico, and the Annanaki references should appear in Iraq. The USA gets three or so a year. The scientific findings should be published on Crop Cirle Connector with the diagrams. It seems like there are quite a few fakes, but some of them probably are very genuine. I am surprised Ireland does not get the crop cirles. Maybe they have too many rocks? Although, the ring forts from 6,000 yrs. ago resemble crop circles.

edit on 31-7-2011 by frugal because: spelling

That's not true by a long shot. Yes its a fact that majority of the circles appear in the English farms but probably the most famous, mind boggling crop circle that got even pathological skeptics scratching their head, came from the fields of Germany on 23rdof July 1991. Please have a look :-

Originally posted by Analzoid

Euclidean geometry. 3 new diatonic ratios were discovered in crop circles that have been left in the fields.

We're talking about centuries of mathematicians and geometry specialists who have studied Euclidean geometry (also used in physics to explain symmetry) and had never discovered these 3 theorems until they were demonstrated in crop circles.

For that reason alone, they can't all be man-made. Anyone who could discover three new diatonic ratios would absolutely want credit for it as they would be cemented into the history books.

And as another poster pointed out, there have been countless studies done in labs that show the differences between flattened grains from human invention compared to ones that have gone unexplained.

~Namaste

I would like to thank you sincerely for this priceless piece of information. It just fortified my belief that the most intricate crop circles are not man made. I did have the knowledge that naturally made crop circles aren't composed of crushed and flattened crops but those which get lain as smoothly as a stack of dominos, but this whole thing about Euclidean geometry having its provenance in the crop circles is something I didn't know. It's fascinating!

What are you guys talking about? . Man today uses Euclidean geometry for design and construction. Are kidding me. What a load of bull!!!!! Mr. Analzoid your blindly accepting and thanking Namaste without educating yourself about this stuff first.

Euclidean geometry is an axiomatic systemAxiomatic systemIn mathematics, an axiomatic system is any set of axioms from which some or all axioms can be used in conjunction to logically derive theorems. A mathematical theory consists of an axiomatic system and all its derived theorems...
, in which all theorems ("true statements") are derived from a small number of axioms. Near the beginning of the first book of the Elements, Euclid(a human that happens to be greek nothing to do with aliens or alien technology) gives five postulates (axioms) for plane geometry, stated in terms of constructions

Originally posted by Analzoid

Originally posted by frugal
Not to be rude but why are most of the crop circles in England? It seems like Myan symbols should show up in Mexico, and the Annanaki references should appear in Iraq. The USA gets three or so a year. The scientific findings should be published on Crop Cirle Connector with the diagrams. It seems like there are quite a few fakes, but some of them probably are very genuine. I am surprised Ireland does not get the crop cirles. Maybe they have too many rocks? Although, the ring forts from 6,000 yrs. ago resemble crop circles.

edit on 31-7-2011 by frugal because: spelling

That's not true by a long shot. Yes its a fact that majority of the circles appear in the English farms but probably the most famous, mind boggling crop circle that got even pathological skeptics scratching their head, came from the fields of Germany on 23rdof July 1991. Please have a look :-

edit on 2-8-2011 by Analzoid because: typo

Crop circles have been going on since the 17 century. Use to be a gentlemen's pub after hours event. Since the 90's the circles have become extremely high tech. Which is the reason for there current designs.


The video is nothing of proof but only speculation. People who accept this video as fact are people who already believe unconditionally in aliens. This isn't some evidence that can make a non-believer into a believer.


What bothers me is why you would think humans of today are so fortunate to have such sophisticated crap circle designs . Have you ever thought why now when I am alive. Why not before or after I die. Why now ?. They are man made. Get over it. Stop going against the current your going to drown.

What are you guys talking about? . Man today uses Euclidean geometry for design and construction. Are kidding me. What a load of bull!!!!! Mr. Analzoid your blindly accepting and thanking Namaste without educating yourself about this stuff first.

Euclidean geometry is an axiomatic systemAxiomatic systemIn mathematics, an axiomatic system is any set of axioms from which some or all axioms can be used in conjunction to logically derive theorems. A mathematical theory consists of an axiomatic system and all its derived theorems...
, in which all theorems ("true statements") are derived from a small number of axioms. Near the beginning of the first book of the Elements, Euclid(a human that happens to be greek nothing to do with aliens or alien technology) gives five postulates (axioms) for plane geometry, stated in terms of constructions

Oops Thanks for the post, yah I should have looked it up before getting all excited.

Crop circles have been going on since the 17 century. Use to be a gentlemen's pub after hours event. Since the 90's the circles have become extremely high tech. Which is the reason for there current designs.


The video is nothing of proof but only speculation. People who accept this video as fact are people who already believe unconditionally in aliens. This isn't some evidence that can make a non-believer into a believer.

I am not saying each and every god damn crop circle out there has been made by aliens, humans are well capable of making the most difficult designs but can you really debunk the crop circles with 'bent crops' and not 'crushed crops'? I am really eager to see someone or a team make a crop circle without stamping on the crops. They have shown guys making crop circles with boards and measuring tapes. These guys were like pros, they did a bloody good job except they couldn't do it without crushing the crops with the board. They admitted that making crop circles is one thing but making them without flattening them is another. Do you have the answer? I am curious.

What bothers me is why you would think humans of today are so fortunate to have such sophisticated crap circle designs . Have you ever thought why now when I am alive. Why not before or after I die. Why now ?. They are man made. Get over it. Stop going against the current your going to drown.

This is something which I have thought about on more than one occasion but nothing could debunk the extremely intricate crop circle designs with bent and not crushed crops. I need to see someone achieve it and then I will accept that the natural crop circles aren't so natural after all.

I hope someone doesnt mind me asking.. i am musical...

Can anyone give me these scales in music form??
like the ones only discovered in crops circles?

or have i missed somthing in the explanations of them?

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Seems you have poor reading comprehension. I never once said I believed in e.t.
I said that there are species of life on earth that are being discovered all the time and that there are plenty more undiscovered creation on our earth. You assume that only man are making crop circles. That is your assumption, that is not a fact. I have not said it's a fact that all are not man made. I said if some are not man made, then a life we're unaware of that exist in our world can be behind it.

I don't have all the answers but can go with what I do know. I have experienced unexplainable things since childhood and my drawing which was exactly like the crop circle in England that I saw later in the evening of the same day it was drawn. I don't believe in coincidence.

I am a Christian but not evangelical. But by you making fun of an evangelical, you show your obvious bias and well there's just no use to talking to you because you don't use your brain. That sets yourself up. You know the topic, clearly don't care to talk about it seriously. So you are just trolling. You should speak in a mature, rational way or not at all. Have a good day and God bless.

Originally posted by Terra Serranum
To create something that complex, middle of the night, monstrously huge, incredibly complicated, silently, in cover of darkness, doesn't seem logical to me.

Why must it be silently? And only some few are huge, and most are not incredibly complicated.

Theories of microwaves to bend the stalks, does anyone realize just how many stalks we're talking about in these massive circles?

I don't think that they bend stalks one by one. Although I don't know how those hypothetical microwave stalk-benders are, I think a microwave oven without the door could act in that way, sending microwaves in just that direction.

GPS and lazer guides, couple drunks with boards and rope. Sounds way more far fetched than most of the other theories to me.

I don't think GPS is needed, if they know how to do it, a rope with the right size is much easier and quicker to use than a laser guide. And I don't think it's more far fetched than saying that it was an unknown intelligent species from another planet.

A message for those with the ability to understand feels right to me.

That's the problem, how can we know who are those with ability to understand them, when we can see that most crop circle analysts come with their own ideas?

If aliens came down we know what the general reaction would be...

I don't.

Originally posted by soaringhawk
reply to post by dilly1

 

Seems you have poor reading comprehension. I never once said I believed in e.t.
I said that there are species of life on earth that are being discovered all the time and that there are plenty more undiscovered creation on our earth. You assume that only man are making crop circles. That is your assumption, that is not a fact. I have not said it's a fact that all are not man made. I said if some are not man made, then a life we're unaware of that exist in our world can be behind it.

I don't have all the answers but can go with what I do know. I have experienced unexplainable things since childhood and my drawing which was exactly like the crop circle in England that I saw later in the evening of the same day it was drawn. I don't believe in coincidence.

I am a Christian but not evangelical. But by you making fun of an evangelical, you show your obvious bias and well there's just no use to talking to you because you don't use your brain. That sets yourself up. You know the topic, clearly don't care to talk about it seriously. So you are just trolling. You should speak in a mature, rational way or not at all. Have a good day and God bless.

edit on 2-8-2011 by soaringhawk because: edits & additional text.

You brand me as a troller?


Because I question the validity of crop circles and unfactual claims by certain people.


Unbelievable!! This is so typical of what people do when confronted with reality.


So now you change your story and say the culprits are not ET's but some other known species that you don't know anything about. Ummm,,,You must hate humans. Why would you skip the possibility that humans are the only beings to do these crap circles when there is no evidence of another unknown intelligent earth bound being or ET 's doing any of the circles. That is what I don't understand. You just blatantly skip the human option. Its crazy.


How in the world can you be christian and believe in ET's visiting earth or "even weirder" intelligent life forms that we're unaware of. That is super hard to do. How do you do that?. Are you a hard core christian? Baptist,Methodist ?Lutheran? How can you mix alien earthly being existing on this planet and believe in the new testament. This truly boggles my mind.


I don't make fun of any religion . Or any person. Its your choice and your life. But I do state what is fact and what is fantasy. And all faiths are just that fantasies .. You think the word fantasy is a negative word when being used with it . Why ,I don't know ,if you believe in so much faith then it shouldn't be a negative. I mean,,,You have faith in jesus(your christian), you believe(or plausibly) in aliens visiting earth and you believe in unknown intelligent life forms living on this planet that could be the crap circle culprits. That's a boatload of faith. Which is nothing factual just pure speculation.


And then you think you have right to call me names like : troll, immature , irrational ,bias and brainless. Wow


Have a good day and embrace logic.

Originally posted by Jansy
Why would environmental artists take the time and trouble to create these amazing things anonymously? Why leave huge enigmas all over the countryside, aware of the controversy they give rise to? Wouldn't you want to be known for such incredible creations?

Because in most cases as they destroy crops they could get sued by the farmers, get charged with trespass etc, like Mathew Williams

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No. I call you for what you are because you don't seem to think.or are just trying to knock those that do believe on purpose. I never once said E.T are real or that I think they're real. I'm not the one that's assuming something. Between me and you, you are the only one that's assumed anything about e.t life & the crop circle mysteries.

I said there are species discovered on our earth. Fact. So it only stands with reason that there are further undiscovered creation on our earth. Perhaps some of that is beyond our ability to understand right now. We don't know everything. So if such life exist in a form we cannot identify in our world then they may be behind any legitimate crop circle and or u.f.o sighting. How hard is that for you to understand or accept? And this has nothing against Christianity so you're wrong again.


It's not that you question anything. It's that you already have your mind made up and you assume. You assume and that's where you are wrong. You then show your obvious bias. Don't try to perform some damage control. Your real nature has already been shown.

Again, learn how to read what a person is saying before making your reply because you come across as a person that does not read and treat people as an idiot. You are disrespectful and immature. Take care & God bless.

Originally posted by Analzoid
but can you really debunk the crop circles with 'bent crops' and not 'crushed crops'?

I guess you haven't read this thread, or you just dismiss the information of how it's done. A magnetron produces microwaves, these microwaves heat the water inside the stalk, which causes expulsion cavities in the node, which causes the crop to bend. This is the cause of the "microwave damage" found in "legitimate" circles. It's not nearly as difficult or far-fetched as some people seem to think, GPS magnetron waveguide rollers were being used way back in the 90's, and I bet today even this technique would be considered old school by the advanced circle makers. Why is it that circles have become more complex as technology has advanced? Hmm, I can't possibly understand why...

2 questions here. First of all, I have heard many people on this forum claim that the government knows about UFOs, and it is a massive conspiracy to hide it until the time is right for 'disclosure'. If you buy into the theory that the government(s) are going to use disclosure to unite as under one government, wouldn't it be more likely than not that instead of them using actual aliens for this sinister plan, they would be using manufactured aliens for this purpose? And in that case, the crop circles would likely have been created to serve as 'evidence', but by man and not UFOs. I don't particularly subscribe to this theory, but it seems to me that there are a lot of massive leaps in this 'disclosure' theory.

Secondly, there is nothing more vague than a bunch of circles. They could literally be interpreted to show anything. In some of the 'interpretations' in the OP, it literally looks as if they chose an arbitrary circle to begin counting on, simply so their dates match up. It seems to me it would be incredibly easy to impose a set of random circles over any number, letter, or date system, and find some 'meaning' in them. Why are these particular ones so convincing? Is it because you can see that this is clearly the most obvious and factual interpretation of them? Or is it because, as I suspect, this happens to be the interpretation that fits best within your 'theory', or supports your current belief? Most of those explanations look to me as if someone is trying really hard to create a scenario that supports his argument.

If you showed the same pattern to someone for analysis, but made no mention of it being a crop circle, do you think they would still come to the same conclusion you do?

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