Mother living at same apt for last 20 years says sun is off kilter

reply to post by tinker9917

No.
It causes the rate of Earth's "wobble" to change a bit. That wobble takes about 26,000 years to complete. That's 1º in 72 years. A tiny change in that tiny rate would not be noticeable. In fact, the oceans sloshing around and the atmosphere moving around cause a greater change than the earthquake did, as your link points out.

"Earth's rotation changes all the time as a result of not only earthquakes, but also the much larger effects of changes in atmospheric winds and oceanic currents," he said. "Over the course of a year, the length of the day increases and decreases by about a millisecond, or about 550 times larger than the change caused by the Japanese earthquake. The position of Earth's figure axis also changes all the time, by about 1 meter (3.3 feet) over the course of a year, or about six times more than the change that should have been caused by the Japan quake."

www.nasa.gov...

that's why they built stonehenge!!


OMG!!

no, really, if anything is out of whack it'd be the earth.

unless everyone believes the earth is the center of the universe again?

reply to post by tinker9917


What you're doing is selective editing. Immediately after your snippet...

"...but it will not cause a shift of Earth's axis in space—only external forces such as the gravitational attraction of the sun, moon and planets can do that.

Did you think I wouldn't check it?
The article says nothing about the sun looking different.
At any rate, we're arguing semantics here.

Let's just say you're right... case closed. This isn't Nibiru or some mass awakening of enlightened beings of energy from the Gamma Quadrant.

Just an earthquake.

reply to post by LexiconV


I'll make this a short response to your exhaustive effort.

The OP stated this in relation to the "Inuit video" while making the comment "I think something's up." That's implying many things and it is open to interpretation. My interpretation was the doomsday/ Elenin/ 2012/ angle. What's your take? Am I mistaken?

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by crankyoldman

 

Please stay on topic. Do not derail this thread with your unscientific, fairy tale, made-up, mumbo-jumbo. I would ask for you to please cite your reputable sources and their relation to the OP. Thank you.

edit on 29-7-2011 by SpringHeeledJack because: grammar

Last time i checked I was on topic you like to argue and think you are a mod contribute to the post or leave. Btw LOVE your avatar

i have also noticed the difference and it was well after the japan quake and what i noticed was the sun setting in a different spot. i have windows that face southish and i could easily see the sun setting ,when of course the wierd thick sunset clouds did'nt roll in and it was in a matter of about a weekthat suddenly i had to struggle and stretch to see it.it appeared to shift about 10 deg. north by my line of sight. i think it also makes a difference as to what you notice when you can see almost completely from horizion to horizion. i have also noticed the suns rays seem to be hotter in the last few years.and to the guy going on and on about quantify this and scientific evidence that where is your phd ??? now go tell your boss at whatever three letter dept of gov you work for they need to take back your last pay raise because you suck at your job as a debunker . and tell them that putting brillant blue dye in the chemtrails did'nt make them any less obvious. these are common sense people that notice common sense differences.

reply to post by automata


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Here we go with another circular thread repeating itself. Your experience is due to a change in seasons. Nothing more. Stop reaching out to the supernatural for explanations. Even if the Earth has tilted due to an earthquake... there's your explanation. Done. End of story. Even the sources given from NASA were highly edited by selective delivery and in that very same article, it shows that Earth's axis as it would effect our view of the sun is unchanged. This thread is done and over with already. Don't turn this into a 26 page pi$$ing contest.

reply to post by AllUrChips


I like to explore all options and present opposing viewpoints in order to get a varied dialogue going. The supernatural is unacceptable to me. I'm not attempting to moderate anything.

In this sense, I am contributing. I have contributed greatly in my opinion. And in my defense, if I may invoke the power of a well respected mod who graced us with their input, I stand firm in my analysis.

And thanks!

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by AllUrChips

 

No. It did tilt us but it was a very small fraction of what you said. Somewhere around 25 centimeters (10 inches). Barely the most minute fraction of a fraction of a degree.

But the magnetic pole has shifted that much and is continuing to shift as we speak:



But of course we're not talking about the now obviously shifting magnetic pole (another Earth change debunkers of 2012 etc are continuing to say is, in their words, "silly", "hogwash","poppycock" and the like.)

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack

Originally posted by AzureSky
.. odd, since i havent been able to see a full senset since the last one i saw.

Lol, oh really?

Kidding aside, taking pictures for a month proves nothing. As I said, and as is common knowledge, the position of the sun changes constantly. A result (or cause) of having different seasons. Now take pictures over a few decades from a single spot, account for errors and variables, and then you'll see what's up.

lol If the sun constantly changed position as you then how is it possible for the people of ancient civilizations to build monuments when the sun lines up perfectly on the same day every year?

All I know is I live on a hill that faces the west for the past 30+ years, and every summer we can sit on our back deck, and watch the sunset over the highest hill in the west which is a ski hill in the winter. Now the sun sets itself a little more North West than before, almost over my alley. Been watching the same sun set in the same place for years with a clear view of the city below, and a damn fine view at that. Now, people can sit there and tell us that nothing is wrong, or its all a bunch of (mumbo jumbo, or a fairy tale, no names, but you know who you are) I've probably spoken to over a hundred people in the last 3 months about this around here in my city, and a lot of other people see it as well. Before I ever had seen a thread about the sun being off on here, I had noticed it, and have had many other conversations with local people as well. Something is going on, thats for sure.

Oh ya, BTW

ETA: You know who you are, and don't bother responding to this post with your holier than thou response, you are to much of a matter of fact type person, and don't bother keeping an open mind if you can't find your answer in a text book, which is really really sad.............................

Up here's in Norway the sun is accurate; so I guess someone just forgot anchor their tectonic plate...

But I miss the old days when the sun was yellow and not white!

reply to post by dominicus

And I say her memory is off "kilter".
I will repeat what has been said over and over here on ATS... There is no way the sun or axis could have shifted without it being noticeable elsewhere as well.

Originally posted by AllUrChips
Didnt the japan quake tilt us 3 degrees? That is what i was led to believe?

No it did not.. More like a tiny fraction of a degree which is much smaller even than the yearly variations. The change in axis is a slow but constant phase that takes tens of thousands of years even to change it by a few degrees. The tilt is currently decreasing and will continue to do so for the next ten thousand years or so.

And if it did change then every amateur astronomer would know, as they are dependent on stars/planets being in the position they should be at that exact time.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

And magnetic pole shift in 2012 is indeed silly.
There is no way to know when a magnetic shift will occur as it is completely random. The magnetic field has also been lower many times in the past without any change or pole shift occurring.

reply to post by gunshooter


Hi Gunshooter...I could say the same for my Grandmother who has sat on her porch in a swing that had to be replaced every so often. She also faced the west. She said the sun once set on the left side of a shed or building that was on the other side of her pond. Behind the pond was an open field that was a garden space.
She died at 89..I remember when one day about 3 years before she got sick...she said to me that the sun went down on the right side of the building and wondered why. Now I don't know what that means, but she definitely thought it odd. That is a long time to watch the sunset!!

Originally posted by juleol

Originally posted by AllUrChips
Didnt the japan quake tilt us 3 degrees? That is what i was led to believe?

No it did not.. More like a tiny fraction of a degree which is much smaller even than the yearly variations. The change in axis is a slow but constant phase that takes tens of thousands of years even to change it by a few degrees. The tilt is currently decreasing and will continue to do so for the next ten thousand years or so.

are you sure it wasnt a fraction of a fraction like some other genius on here said?
so what is it then, ? huh? mass hysteria? what? what is it that some of us are seeing all over the world, and some are not? My memory is perfectly fine, what is your diagnosis for me? Do you have all answers by the way?

Originally posted by juleol
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

 

And magnetic pole shift in 2012 is indeed silly.
There is no way to know when a magnetic shift will occur as it is completely random. The magnetic field has also been lower many times in the past without any change or pole shift occurring.

Given a large enough system, nothing is random and everything is predictable.

Originally posted by gunshooter

Originally posted by juleol

Originally posted by AllUrChips
Didnt the japan quake tilt us 3 degrees? That is what i was led to believe?

No it did not.. More like a tiny fraction of a degree which is much smaller even than the yearly variations. The change in axis is a slow but constant phase that takes tens of thousands of years even to change it by a few degrees. The tilt is currently decreasing and will continue to do so for the next ten thousand years or so.

are you sure it wasnt a fraction of a fraction like some other genius on here said?

so what is it then, ? huh? mass hysteria? what? what is it that some of us are seeing all over the world, and some are not? My memory is perfectly fine, what is your diagnosis for me? Do you have all answers by the way?

So please explain how astronomers are able to use tracking software for their telescopes? Even software decades old is still accurate today, which would not be the case if the axis or position of sun changed.

I also happen to live right south of Arctic circle, so i would definitely notice if something was off even by less than half a degree.

Originally posted by OccamAssassin
You obviously know that a thread about this exists already.

Why start another?

edit on 29/7/2011 by OccamAssassin because: (no reason given)

You are wrong. There is not another thread about the OP's mother. Use the search engine.