Moon Base Located by NASA? Or Just a Volcano

Originally posted by zorgon
You mean the "Ringing of the bell" effect? Well some people use that information to prove the Moon is indeed hollow. But then we only have NASA's word for it that it did reverberate like a bell... I have never seen the sound data recording of that event yet (they might be available, just never found them before).

That would be interesting to hunt down. I wonder then if the wave signatures could be copied and pasted into a sound program to create an MP3. Hmm...

reply to post by Blue Shift

The data was seismic, not auditory.

The seismic waves produced by the impact reverberated the same way seismic waves do in the Earth, but for a longer period.
www.hq.nasa.gov...

I dont buy that those holes are "volcanoes" maybe thats what they're calling them for lack of a better term?

To me they look like access points to a cave system. But what do I know?

Question:

With the telescopes one can buy on the market along with the powerful ones owned privately, would it be safe to say we can examine every inch of the moon side facing us to a degree that would pick up any activety on the moon?

The activity on the farside of the moon would be in question because we don't see it.

Originally posted by Somamech
And I must admit that its actually quite amazing after my latest leak to even fathom how many *Industry based folk* John Lear Talks to/Has contact with

But that doesn't mean that what he says is true.

Come on already people.... what does it take..... you should know by now the Grey's are within the Moon and Mars how many times do you need to be told already

Originally posted by Kandinsky
I've seen it being attributed to a paper by HH Koelle, but the copy I have is unillustrated so who knows?

Well see... back in the days when Clifford Stone was the poster child here at ATS and he was posting all those FOIA documents here at ATS... I decided to start posting some of my better files from my collection of over 6000 official interesting documents. That nuclear reactor on the moon was one of them.

I posted 6 documents and then came back to find some mod had dumped them ALL into skunkworks, never to see the light of day again.

A while after that Clifford Stone also vanished from ATS

Here are the 6... every one of them is a valid official file that is still available from the official government site. Why they were dumped to the basement? No idea... but after that I didn't post any more. Your loss, not mine

2 on Fusion rockets
1 on Project Looking Glass (dealing with backward in time traveling light waves)
1 on Em shielding for space craft dated 1964 from NASA
2 on the nuclear plant for the moon


Pegasus Document Release #001
Title:
Propulsion Research on the Variable Isp Tandem Mirror Plasma Rocket
Date of Report: Feb 7, 1994
Source: MIT
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Pegasus Document Release #002

SOAR: Space Orbiting Advanced Fusion Power Reactor
Some of the related documents are not available in public domain...
Fusion Technology Institute
University of Wisconsin, Madison
January 1987...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Pegasus Document Release #003

Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation
Fall 1982
Los Alamos National Laboratory

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Pegasus Document Release #004

ACTIVE SHIELDING CONCEPTS FOR THE IONIZING RADIATION IN SPACE
Contract NASw-502 Final Report Rev. 31 Jan. 1964

Space Sciences Laboratory
Missile and Space Division
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
Philadelphia, Pa.

Final Report
Contract NASw - 5 0 2
Period Covered: 1 Sept. 1962 - 31 Aug. 1963

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Pegasus Document Release #005
SPACE NUCLEAR POWER AND MAN’S EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATION
Date:
LA-UR--83-449
DEC 1983 007561
Source:
Los Alamos National Laboratory

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Pegasus Document Release #006

PROJECT OUTREACH

SP100 Class Nuclear Reactor on the Moon
Gary L. Bennett and Ronald C. Cull
NASA Office of Aeronautics and Exploration Technology
Washington, D.C.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by Somamech
And I must admit that its actually quite amazing after my latest leak to even fathom how many *Industry based folk* John Lear Talks to/Has contact with

But that doesn't mean that what he says is true.

Also doesn't mean he is lying either

But I will say this... talking to the people that hang out at John's place is a LOT more interesting and informative than dealing with daily skeptics and trolls at ATS I would give you a list, but most of them do not play in the UFO circuit though Bob Lazar used to be a regular up till a few years ago

Originally posted by Phage
The seismic waves produced by the impact reverberated the same way seismic waves do in the Earth, but for a longer period.
www.hq.nasa.gov...

Which, in your opinion, means what?

Thanks for the link... would be interesting to hear that I am sure someone on ATS can convert that

Originally posted by dethduck
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

Nice.
The closest I've come to finding the origins of that image is some chinese site about who knows what but maybe just rehashing the article you posted.

Maybe they got there image from their Lunar probe ChangE-2 I like the grass tone



That is actually a very interesting article And either google translate has improved their Chinese, or the site is written in formal Chinese as opposed to internet garble

Here are three interesting chapter...

The moon is the origin of life on Earth, and uncover important clues to evolution:
The moon is the origin of life on Earth, and uncover important clues to evolution:
Space war would come the next exposure of military bases on the moon:

Thanks for the link, some interesting reading

We will know that the moon is really a giant shield when the aliens drive it into the coming comet that is destin to crash into earth!...and they are driving a new moon towards us to replace the one thats going to get blown to bits.

Salutations Zorgon,

Another fine post but I have to agree with Kandinsky...

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by zorgon

 

You spin a fine conspiracy with the use of simple suggestion!

All this tells you that there's some kind of cover-up. What it tells me is that studying the Moon is a work in progress and that scientists should sometimes shut up and hold back on the proclamations.

Regardless of whether I agree with your deductions or not your positive demeanor is always enjoyable and your posts are often thought provoking enough that I learn something new digging through the details.

Many fellow ATS members who embrace "alternate" theories could do well by following your example.

Keep up the good work!

reply to post by zorgon

In either case John Lear was RIGHT...

I concur

Unique Volcanic Complex Discovered on Moons Far Side.

It appears John Lear was right all along There was Volcanoes on the moon.

This feels great to have this confirmed.

Johns suppositions were correct.

Stand Corrected Deniers,De-bunkers

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by zorgon

 

This hot spot wasn't there before. As you just said there are small blue spots in the area in question on that image I posted... but now we have THIS..bright red hot spot..

This hot spot wasn't there before what? What are you talking about? It was found in 1998. Do you have some reason to believe it wasn't there before that? Like, for example, a billion or so years before?

What's more, while all lunar volcanoes were assumed to have last stirred 3 billion to 4 billion years ago, this one appears much fresher — just a billion or so years old.

www.time.com...

Of course, Time did get the dating of the end of lunar volcanism wrong, as pointed out previously.

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Are you saying this site has stayed hot for over a billion years??
I thought it deteriorates much faster than that...

reply to post by TheUniverse

When was it ever said there was no volcanic activity on the Moon?
www.doaj.org...
1970

Originally posted by Phage
When was it ever said there was no volcanic activity on the Moon?

Originally posted by Phage
Yes, the Moon is pretty much dead geologically.

So I gather you are now recanting the earlier post?

reply to post by backinblack


Naturally occurring thorium (232) has a half life of 14.05 million years. Not very "hot", especially in the concentrations it's found in the (apparently) volcanic complex.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Phage
When was it ever said there was no volcanic activity on the Moon?

Originally posted by Phage
Yes, the Moon is pretty much dead geologically.

So I gather you are now recanting the earlier post?

No. Full context:

Yes, the Moon is pretty much dead geologically. That doesn't mean it always was and neither NASA or any other lunar scientists ever claimed that it was.

Pretty pathetic attempt for such an esteemed member.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by backinblack

 

Naturally occurring thorium (232) has a half life of 14.05 million years. Not very "hot", especially in the concentrations it's found in the (apparently) volcanic complex.

edit on 7/29/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

So what would create a hot spot today, a billion years after any geological activity??

Surely any thorium present would by now be totally inactive..

reply to post by backinblack


If I may, from wiki...

In nature, thorium is found as thorium-232 (100.00%). Thorium decays slowly by emitting an alpha particle. The half-life of thorium-232 is about 14.05 billion years.

Thorium

Edit: See my point about learning something new from these discussions.