Are there beings Living on the sun. Type that we have no clue what they are made up off.

Originally posted by trika3000
Can you prove to me that you exist, or for that matter that i exist? Our brains are viewed through our brains which we know are faulty. Inside every word and/or sentence we write is a meaning and a type of essence which can be brought forth to the mind by the mere opening of the word, can you point out to me where this meaning exists in such words?

Slap yourself in the face then tell me you don't exist.

reply to post by SurrealEzen


I just finished a series of SF books named " The Saga of Seven Suns" it is a series of seven space opera novels written by Kevin J. Anderson. In the series one of the protagonist are called the Hydrogues.

per wiki:
Other elemental races are introduced to the series such as dwell within gas giants. The hydrogues start to extinguish stars, thus awaking another elemental race in the stars—the faeros—who fight back. On the planet Theroc, human colonists awaken the verdani, a tree elemental race, and two Roamers awaken a fourth elemental race—the water elemental wentals.

I am with there being other than purely carbon based lifeforms.

Originally posted by radkrish
reply to post by SurrealEzen

 

No. Not at all. There could be different compositions for life. The Universe is stranger than we think. But I see life forms originating from the sun is highly unlikely. If aliens maufacture intelligent life, the sun's energy can be used more elaborately using them. But I see no reason for aliens to actually land artificial life forms on the sun itself.

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I do not believe the sun is a giant nuclear plant. I ascribe more to the electric universe theory. If you have not read any of this material, it may surprise you. The universe as you said is truly stranger than we think. We are energy based carbon creatures. perhaps they are energy based silica creatures. It is fun to play the what can it be game.

I talk to them all time. They are boring to talk too. Only talk about bright light and the sunspots.

sorry if some one else has pu this i didnt read every reply but what if there harvesting the suns energy they maby thrive on the heat and radiation that comes off it.

reply to post by SurrealEzen


We will never know, but maybe there are some aliens out there looking at earth and saying: No way life could be out there ...

The problem is they must be energy based as we have only a hand full of elements that could be solid at that temperature, the again considering the temperature and the force of gravity maybe there actually are some strange elements there ...

these beeing are "plasma" and are "visiting" Hessdalen regulary...

In Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 you find out that the sun is really "God" and spirits reside there after death. Just a thought...

I'm pretty sure Glen Beck lives on the sun. Or the moon. One of the two.

Thanks, I'm here all week, folks.

it could be possible, i think we're narrow minded to think life can only exist in our own temperature range.

i've heard of aliens that live on or even inside their star.

reply to post by m1991


Must I repost again?! Look, this is very simple. The sun runs on nuclear fusion and is pretty much entirely hydrogen. The hydrogen atoms collide and create new elements. Even the "energy" waves (radiation, light, etc) are all actual particles in the form of "beams." They still consist of actual matter. Unless you consider ripped-up atoms to be life, there is no life on the sun! It's not possible! What part of basic scientific understanding is not being understood here?

Temperature range has absolutely nothing to do with life at all. We're all very much aware of extremophiles in the ocean.

You claim to have "heard" of aliens living in the sun? Where? From this post?

Look, you can all go into a circle-jerk frenzy as long as you want but obvious facts are obvious. This isn't about priding yourself on having an open mind. This has nothing to do with the likelihood (I believe VERY likely) that there is alien life out there somewhere that is not carbon-based. Sure, we define organic chemicals has those containing carbon or a carbon-hydrogen bond but it's certainly possible to have other forms. Just everyone, please stop thinking you're being suppressed and persecuted. You're just flat-out wrong. If you can access ATS, you can certainly get to a search engine. I urge you to look up the reality of the situation. I don't mean guided searches with biased results. I don't mean Youtube videos loaded to the net by anyone with a camera. I mean actual, testable, verified, consistent facts.

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by m1991

 

Must I repost again?! Look, this is very simple. The sun runs on nuclear fusion and is pretty much entirely hydrogen. The hydrogen atoms collide and create new elements. Even the "energy" waves (radiation, light, etc) are all actual particles in the form of "beams." They still consist of actual matter. Unless you consider ripped-up atoms to be life, there is no life on the sun! It's not possible! What part of basic scientific understanding is not being understood here?

Temperature range has absolutely nothing to do with life at all. We're all very much aware of extremophiles in the ocean.

You claim to have "heard" of aliens living in the sun? Where? From this post?

Look, you can all go into a circle-jerk frenzy as long as you want but obvious facts are obvious. This isn't about priding yourself on having an open mind. This has nothing to do with the likelihood (I believe VERY likely) that there is alien life out there somewhere that is not carbon-based. Sure, we define organic chemicals has those containing carbon or a carbon-hydrogen bond but it's certainly possible to have other forms. Just everyone, please stop thinking you're being suppressed and persecuted. You're just flat-out wrong. If you can access ATS, you can certainly get to a search engine. I urge you to look up the reality of the situation. I don't mean guided searches with biased results. I don't mean Youtube videos loaded to the net by anyone with a camera. I mean actual, testable, verified, consistent facts.

The thing is, we don't even have a definition for 'life'. I mean, biologically speaking, a purely spiritual being probably doesn't count as life, but we use the term 'afterlife' to describe the state of being a spirit after dying, so i would consider it life.

reply to post by m1991


Of course, I concede that there are many ways to define life. What you're doing here though is connecting aliens living in the sun to Earth-based mysticism and would ask again, for people to cite their sources. Sources that are testable, sound, and consistent. Anything less is unacceptable.

Come on, everyone knows that dragons come from/live in the sun.

Seriously though, I doubt anything could be living in or on the sun.

Originally posted by ClamChowder
reply to post by SurrealEzen

 

I think it's much more likely that the Sun is it's own life form. When a star is born, there are ultra immense pressures, and things happening we just might not fully understand; we may hypothesize, and speculate, but is any homo-sapien alive today really sure what happens at the very second a star is born? Is it possible some kind of consciousness is created?

Think about an event massive enough, to create a sphere of material so dense, so quickly that a sustained nuclear reaction starts, and continues for hundreds of billions of years --- the sheer mass and volume of material needed to form this star, simply mind-blowing. Would it be possible when an event on that scale takes place, it also creates consciousness or multiple consciousnesses? If an event as small as a sperm touching an egg can create a life form with a consciousness, then why can't the birth of a star (which is so much grander at any level of compare) do the same?

Food for thought.

Consider for a moment that life = energy, which is essentially true, since we know that it takes energy to reproduce, and we gain that energy from multiple sources, the Sun being one.

I'd even go so far as to draw a parallel such as Mother / Earth and Father / Sun, as the Earth nurtures our material bodies and the Sun plants within us (and all living creatures here) the seed of life.

It should come as no surprise to anyone with an interest in socio-cultural anthropology, that Sun Worship is a practice that many many MANY proto-cultures started with. The basic reality is that we are a product of and totally reliant upon the Sun for our well-being. Too much, and we die, too little and we die. We're at the mercy of our parents, the celestial bodies that brought us into being.

That said, I think it's not a completely unreasonable leap to think that "sentience" as we know it could have been passed on to us from somewhere. I would think the logical assumption leads to our source of life as the likely culprits of our source of self-awareness.

It would be pretty pompous of us to believe that we are the pinnacle of life. We're so dependent on this planet that it's laughable to think we could survive away from this planet for any sustained length of time, and still be able to call ourselves "Humans". In truth, the moment we step away from our blue sphere, we begin to degrade.

Hardly an impressive life form at all.

reply to post by m1991


What aliens and which star? Explain further.

reply to post by MaxBlack


Are you sure these are not glitches and artifacts? I think these sun anomalies are explained already here at ATS.
Life thriving on the sun and ufos(if these are true) 'studying' the sun are totally different things.

reply to post by ClamChowder

Ding Ding Ding

In an infinite universe, not only is everything possible, it's most likely probable, if even occurring once. Odds just say it's so.

So.. I would not put it past evolution for a sort of sentient race to actually survive the surface of the sun somewhere. On our sun? Probably not. But somewhere.. sure.

Originally posted by etombo
reply to post by Nobama

 

I am going to agree with you. I think it would be pretty unlikely that anything can exist at that temperature whilst being constantly blown apart on a giant fireball with no surface.

best reply ever.
Truly, while I am open to a variety of possibilities, I'd rather keep it to the likely.
Possible? Hmm maybe. probable? -instinct says no.