NATO bombing water and food supplies in Libya, why?

So I guess there isn't that many left in ATS who believe NATO is in Libya to protect civilians. I'm happy that deny ignorance is working partially for ATS members and I thank those ATS members who worked hard to educate other ATS members.

We all can learn from each other.

That being said, a new revelation confirms once more that NATO is not in Libya to save civilian lives, this bogus is still being spread in the media even now, but luckily ATS doesn't rely MSM.

NATO bombs food storage facilities in Zeltan, then bombs the Libyan water supply pipelines which brings water to seventy percent of Libya. If that is not enough, NATO bombs a clinic killing seven civilians, all in 2-3 days work.

So non of the above attack resemble "saving civilian lives" by implementing a "no fly zone". It looks more like an attempted regime change, to punish the Libyan people to give up their support for the Libyan government.

What are we to do about this? Turn a blind eye? and just go with the MSM justification for the attempted implementation of a regime change using any means necessary?

This is horrifying news, and I bet it won't get any attention, why should it? Answer to yourselves, why should this get any attention? Because I'm convinced that it won't, because I can't answer the question from the Western perspective either. It doesn't benefit the Western moral so it belongs under the carpet, it doesn't benefit Western interests so it belongs in the trash cans.

SOURCE
NATO war crime: Libya water supply

..destroyed flu clinic and food warehouses it said had been hit earlier in the day by NATO airstrikes, killing eight people.

So I guess you didn't search for this same post that came up a few days ago either.

Sad times we live in indeed.

Originally posted by kro32
So I guess you didn't search for this same post that came up a few days ago either.

Sad times we live in indeed.

I know the water supply bombings has been posted before, but the food storage facilities and hospital being bombed is new revelation. Combine it together gives you a clear indication of what NATO is up to, and surely that is not to save civilian lives.

reply to post by confreak


There are always wars fought for a number of different reasons and rarely if ever is a war fought for just one reason. This war is no different.

One of the reasons, yes, is to save civilian lives as Ghaddafi's brutal regime is well documented for it's brutality but there are also other things such as securing access to resources, eliminating Ghadaffi and replacing him with someone the country's involved in this like better and i'm sure the list can go on.

To simplifiy this into a war just to save civilians is very uneducated.

reply to post by kro32


Yes, the Libyan government was so brutal that in the whole of 2010 only 10 people were executed, and all 10 of them convicted murderers. Yes, very brutal. I expected your perspective to be the huge minority in ATS, but since I see that the first poster has that perspective makes me rethink my position.

Wars are fought for different reasons, yes, sure, why not, but you can't claim to be saving civilian lives then turn around and bomb civilians. That is not logical and for you to believe that none sense still is just amusing, just like some who still believe US actual went to Iraq because of WMDs.

NATO openly admit now that they want a regime change, so why do you claim that NATO went and started a war to save Libyan civilians?

it's part of the US led road map to peace. where are they getting the money from, isn't the US broke?

The reason nato commits these attrocoties is simple: When food and water supplies are cut off or made scarce, and with the possibility of being struck by nato bombs at any time(hence the reason for the civilian bombings) they hope that any follwers of the regime will turn on them and help in his capture. imo

Originally posted by confreak
reply to post by kro32

 

Yes, the Libyan government was so brutal that in the whole of 2010 only 10 people were executed, and all 10 of them convicted murderers. Yes, very brutal. I expected your perspective to be the huge minority in ATS, but since I see that the first poster has that perspective makes me rethink my position.

Wars are fought for different reasons, yes, sure, why not, but you can't claim to be saving civilian lives then turn around and bomb civilians. That is not logical and for you to believe that none sense still is just amusing, just like some who still believe US actual went to Iraq because of WMDs.

NATO openly admit now that they want a regime change, so why do you claim that NATO went and started a war to save Libyan civilians?

Boy that is putting some words in my mouth isn't it. The regime of Ghaddafi has been very brutal and that is just historical record which you can argue but it will make you look stupid.

I never claimed any reason of why NATO went to war whatsoever.

And attacking civilians has been a long military tactic when engaged in a conflict from Sherman's march to the bombing of Dresden.

Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by confreak

 

There are always wars fought for a number of different reasons and rarely if ever is a war fought for just one reason. This war is no different.

One of the reasons, yes, is to save civilian lives as Ghaddafi's brutal regime is well documented for it's brutality but there are also other things such as securing access to resources, eliminating Ghadaffi and replacing him with someone the country's involved in this like better and i'm sure the list can go on.

To simplifiy this into a war just to save civilians is very uneducated.

Alright, warmonger. Why do you find the need to justify the atrocious behavior of my country. S&F everyone should do this, the crimes of the USA against the international people should not go unheard and unpunished.

reply to post by kro32


No, it would be healthy discussion, and if it leads to me looking stupid then I will be man enough to admit I was wrong. After all, the motto is to deny ignorance.

Well just google Gaddafi crimes and you will find no shortage of information.

You can decide for yourself if what he has done is good or bad.

Originally posted by kro32
Well just google Gaddafi crimes and you will find no shortage of information.

You can decide for yourself if what he has done is good or bad.

Google USA crimes, I'm sure that list may be a little longer. Way to absolutely surrender your mind to the propaganda machine.

Originally posted by kro32
Well just google Gaddafi crimes and you will find no shortage of information.

You can decide for yourself if what he has done is good or bad.

What a nice way of running away from a debate, don't claim that someone will look stupid for having a different perspective than you when you are not even ready for a debate.

I'm sorry, we will have to end it there.

Feel free to look at my post history and click on any thread with Libya in it. You will find all the information you need on Ghaddafi but i'm tired of posting it. Takes 5 seconds to look it up anyways.

Why is it that all these war atrocity threads always TANK?!

Here we have REAL conspiracy and REAL atrocity, and no one gives a #?! I posted a thread a little while back about Obama signing a bill into law allowing him to wage war on ANYONE if they basically have a friend who has a friend that knows a guy that's a terrorists.

I said in a post here the very first day that NATO launched the assault,that they would bomb,hospitals,schools,food and water.Check one,two,three,four.
This was done in the first month of Iraq too,bombing a baby milk powder factory,saying the same old BS,WMD.Dirty bastards and a dirty business

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Thats because it gets tiring posting the same stuff showing that Gaddafi is a tosser and he isn't the benevelent people-person some of you would have us believe.

I think we're all grown up enough to know that the official line of "protecting civilians" was just the pretext in order to get rid of someone who has been a royal bastard and pain the arse for years.

He is a brutal dictator, he has murdered, oppressed and victimised his people for nearly 4 decades. Whatever the NATO reason for starting this, I and many others wish to see it done, as do a significant majority of Libyans, despite what fringe websites and blogs would have you believe,

reply to post by stumason

He is a brutal dictator, he has murdered, oppressed and victimised his people for nearly 4 decades. Whatever the NATO reason for starting this, I and many others wish to see it done, as do a significant majority of Libyans, despite what fringe websites and blogs would have you believe,

As always your a libyan rebel supportive, very strongly supportive of them.

He is a brutal dictator, he has murdered, oppressed and victimised his people for nearly 4 decades

Thats what america is doing in eupore although think of it as a silent occupation, the rebels are hired paid western terrorists and mercenaries.



You know whats really happening in libya? a member of ATS put it this all about.

its called kill everyone who gets in the way and pay a bunch of mercenaries to do it for you that way you can hide behind them

I and many others wish to see it done, as do a significant majority of Libyans, despite what fringe websites and blogs would have you believe,

Say what? are you the voice of the 6 million Libyans no i guess apparently not, since you only speak for the east libya terrorist scums.

He is a brutal dictator, he has murdered, oppressed and victimised his people for nearly 4 decades

Stop trying to make Gadaffi look like a another because he isnt, , oppressed and victimised his people for nearly 4 decades? thats a funny one.


Before the manufactured revolution in libya i have spoken to a canadian libyan and he said the people really support Gadaffi, sure life is tough and hard but under Gadaffi they had atleast freedom unlike in the west where your a slave for the corporations.


and no Gadaffi forces didn't start the first bullets, from my own thread.

The first signs of unrest in Libya erupted in the form of violent protests in mid-February. After seizing weapons and military equipment from Libyan soldiers, the protesters quickly became full-fledged rebels.

He is a brutal dictator, he has murdered, oppressed and victimised his people for nearly 4 decades

I will say this one last time, your sounding just like the mainstream news propaganda machine, so enough of that alright?

A brutal dictator in what ways? he gave the people free health care free eduction low paying for the gas prices, etc so how can that be brutal.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
As always your a libyan rebel supportive, very strongly supportive of them.

And we all know that given the chance, you would ready yourself and leap into bed with Gaddafi, because he is such a wonderful chap and probably a very generous lover

It is ultimately pointless debating this topic with you, the facts are there and well documented not by Western MSM but by NGO's such as Human Rights Watch, the UN and others. Feel free to continue to believe that Gaddafi is some sort of folklore hero if you wish, it is your choice. I bet you'd defend Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Saddam as poor, misunderstood visionaries as well.