Israel has developed Ethnic-Bomb

This is just more anti Israeli propaganda, people need to get a hold of facts about the Palestinians and the Jewish-Palestinians they are all related or somebody forgot that before Israel it was Palestians Jews.

The best way to avoid confusion is reading about the history of the Middle East.

Ethnic bomb indeed, what they are going to exterminate the whole Middle East population?

What a joke.

The US Air Force plans to launch a project later this year to develop an experimental ultra-large 30,000lb (13,608kg) penetrating munition, according to service officials.

It will be optimised against hardened and deeply buried targets that existing air-delivered weapons cannot destroy, they say.

The Air Force Research Laboratory's Munitions Directorate at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is leading the three-phase technology demonstration, known as the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) programme. It builds on design studies that Boeing has conducted for the laboratory. Flight testing is envisaged around 2006.

Although the air force has no formal requirement for an ultra-large bomb, it has a concept for a 'Big BLU' family of massive-sized penetrator and blast munitions. The MOP demonstration will mature the technologies so that they are "on the shelf, ready to go" if a requirement emerges for a Big BLU penetrator, said Steven Butler, director of engineering at the Air Armament Center at Eglin. He told JDW that the MOP is "unlike anything" that the air force has ever built.

Interest in a big penetrating bomb is growing in some US defence circles, including the Defense Science Board (DSB), the senior policy advisory panel to the Secretary of Defense. It recommended in its February 2004 report on 'Future Strategic Strike Forces' that the Department of Defense "immediately undertake" a demonstration of a "bomber-delivered massive penetrator" weapon as part of a family of ultra-large bombs that would "improve conventional attack effectiveness against deep, expansive, underground tunnel facilities".

www.janes.com...

Looks like the latest "bunker buster" is putting on some pounds. Anyone think we actually have a use for this thing?

Originally posted by marg6043
This is just more anti Israeli propaganda, people need to get a hold of facts about the Palestinians and the Jewish-Palestinians they are all related or somebody forgot that before Israel it was Palestians Jews.

The best way to avoid confusion is reading about the history of the Middle East.

Ethnic bomb indeed, what they are going to exterminate the whole Middle East population?

What a joke.

"anti-israel" propaganda? Ha, here we go again, they can't be touched. And do even try and call me an "anti-semite", I can back everything I say with 100% facts from their OWN sources, so if you are open minded enough I will send you stuff. As for a history on of the Jews, try reading this:

SACRED CHAIN: HISTORY OF THE JEWS by Cantor (a professional and highly respected Jew himself.) This book is a revelation of the arrogance and subjectivity of the Jews, as he details their role in history.

What about Jews I highly respect such as Shahak's and his Jewish History, Jewish Religion , Goldberg's and his Jewish Power, that give us the facts straight from the horse's mouth.

Also, those I support are the "Jews against Zionism", infact, if I am an anti-semite then so are these Jews. I am sick and tired of the name calling because I have studied this subject very hard as have others and discivered something which if you speak about you get shouted down.

I am not trying to convert anyone, all I would like is for folks to have an open mind and read into it.

I even bet their are some here that will try and argue that Jews wern't behind Communism and that they do not control the American media. Ha, I'd like to here that one.

This is research that was started by South Africa, I believe. The U.S. has dabbled in it also. (Israel and South Africa have a long history of sharing weapons technology.)

I started a thread on ethnic weapons here:

Gene-specific weapons research by US, Israel and South Africa

also check out the sunshine project (you can google it or follow the links on the other thread). it has lots of info on these weapons.

-koji K.

I can fully believe that there are subtle differences that can be exploited for a biological weapon.

Remember that the Nazi's ran very sick medical experiments and came up with the determination that there were genetic jews, half german-jews, and religious jews.

There was even a movie called Conspiracy www.imdb.com... that spoke about how the SS were to identify specific jews and eliminate them.

It is sick and wrong, but I believe fully possible.

I find that utterly ridiculous............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by The Hunter
And do even try and call me an "anti-semite

ok, you're an anti-semite.

incidentally, you posting of this nonsense isn't what makes you an anti-semite, it's the entire tone of your posting.

to be far more effective, and to not appear like some skinhead ignoramus, try not to use such wonderful phrases as "that Racist Supremacist country." Also, try to learn the difference between words like here and hear and there, their and they're.

having the reading skills of a 7 year old probably doesn't help the cause much either.

Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by The Hunter
And do even try and call me an "anti-semite

ok, you're an anti-semite.

incidentally, you posting of this nonsense isn't what makes you an anti-semite, it's the entire tone of your posting.

to be far more effective, and to not appear like some skinhead ignoramus, try not to use such wonderful phrases as "that Racist Supremacist country." Also, try to learn the difference between words like here and hear and there, their and they're.

having the reading skills of a 7 year old probably doesn't help the cause much either.

First, not to try and make myself blame free from any spelling mistakes, but I am dyslexic (far from something I am proud of admitting but something I will pick on when I am run down because of my spelling and nothing else.) Secondly, (and this is something I dsidn't want ot admit to as it may seem inappropraite) but I am Jewish. I do not live in Israel but am very much 100% Jewish) That being both parents, I am not a mongrel so as for your statment about not using "racist state" to describe Israel, I will because I know the laws their in an out.

So no, I am not an anti-semite, a racisr skinhead but mearly a Jew that will not tolerate the "supremacist" state of Israel getting away with what it does for any longer. I am one of millions of Jews and non-Jews that support our cause to expose Israel for what it is. If you would like to discuss Jewish law or teachings then please let me know because I have studied it for 35 years.

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I'm not a huge fan of Sharon. I had dinner with him a few years ago. It was a private affair that I was invited to. About 30 or so people. I wasn't a fan before he opened his mouth and afterward I was even less of a fan. The picture I have of him ogling my wife as he flirted with her is priceless (no, I'm not posting it or emailing it).

That said, I find your fears of an ethnic bomb, israel controlling the media and any and all other ridiculous accusations to be nothing more than that. At least try and spread something that can be taken seriously. It might help your cause.

With regards to the spelling thing, my apologies. I was unaware of the dyslexia and unaware of dyslexia causing grammatical misusage of words.

with regards to your being jewish, I am rather suspect. I don't need proof either. don't bother. I'm done with the thread. No need to further call you out for what you are.

Originally posted by Crakeur

I'm not a huge fan of Sharon. I had dinner with him a few years ago. It was a private affair that I was invited to. About 30 or so people. I wasn't a fan before he opened his mouth and afterward I was even less of a fan. The picture I have of him ogling my wife as he flirted with her is priceless (no, I'm not posting it or emailing it).

That said, I find your fears of an ethnic bomb, israel controlling the media and any and all other ridiculous accusations to be nothing more than that. At least try and spread something that can be taken seriously. It might help your cause.

With regards to the spelling thing, my apologies. I was unaware of the dyslexia and unaware of dyslexia causing grammatical misusage of words.

with regards to your being jewish, I am rather suspect. I don't need proof either. don't bother. I'm done with the thread. No need to further call you out for what you are.

Media control, let's debate it then? What do you say to that if the mods let it be? I love a challenge.

Like I said I do not like to use my dyslexia as an excuse so I appreciate you on that matter.

As for me being Jewish, so what. I am regardless. Irrespective of whether I am or am not (or whether you belive me or not) I bet 100% that I can prove you wrong on any of your points: Israel being a racist state, Jews controlling the Media, Jews being behind Communism. It all depends on whether you have what it takes to "open your mind". This isn't some wild eyed conspiracy but plain fact!

Do you have what it takes to debate me? i am all for it!

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Absolutley impossible.

The difference between Arab and Jew is in phenotype - humanity is too closely related to each other to allow a biological agent to kill only one "race" of people.

Don't forget - through all the migrations in history that there are more then a few shared genetic markers between all peoples - espcially between those of jewish descent and their palestinian bretheren.

Originally posted by Agent Alpha
Absolutley impossible.

The difference between Arab and Jew is in phenotype - humanity is too closely related to each other to allow a biological agent to kill only one "race" of people.

Don't forget - through all the migrations in history that there are more then a few shared genetic markers between all peoples - espcially between those of jewish descent and their palestinian bretheren.

With an open mind (before you dispute it READ IT!) - www.solargeneral.com...

Originally posted by The Hunter
As for me being Jewish, so what. I am regardless. Irrespective of whether I am or am not (or whether you belive me or not) I bet 100% that I can prove you wrong on any of your points: Israel being a racist state, Jews controlling the Media, Jews being behind Communism. It all depends on whether you have what it takes to "open your mind". This isn't some wild eyed conspiracy but plain fact!

Do you have what it takes to debate me? i am all for it!

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Those points are certainly on the extreme end of the spectrum - but any Israeli would have to agree that what's going on in their nation is absolute madness.

Palestine WAS Palestine before the war that led to the creation of a Jewish state. I think that the creation of a Jewish state was a good idea - the problem comes in the displacment of the persons already there. Why continue building settlements in areas that are Palestinian? Does Isreal NEED these lands to survive, to exert control over them? Haven't the Palestinians suffered enough?

What is the great crime in making Isrealis return to the recognized state of Isreal, and allow the PAlestinians their own state in Gaza and the West Bank?

Originally posted by The Hunter

Originally posted by Agent Alpha
Absolutley impossible.

The difference between Arab and Jew is in phenotype - humanity is too closely related to each other to allow a biological agent to kill only one "race" of people.

Don't forget - through all the migrations in history that there are more then a few shared genetic markers between all peoples - espcially between those of jewish descent and their palestinian bretheren.

With an open mind (before you dispute it READ IT!) - www.solargeneral.com...

I'm sorry - but David Duke's 'science' is more a result of hatred then scientifc curiosity.

Hunter, please provide proof that Israel controls our media. I'd love to hear when this began too. And why are we at the mercy of israel?

This is nonsense.

With regards to the building of settlements in the strip, I think it's nonsense. At the dinner I had with Sharon he told everyone in the room (all jews of course) that they should all move back to israel and settle there to show their support. He wants to push the palestinians out by any means necessary.

While I don't agree with his tactics or methods I am fairly confident that, should Israel pack up and move out and give the palestinians the entire region, they would turn the area back into desert and start looking for a new homeland.

Originally posted by Crakeur
Hunter, please provide proof that Israel controls our media. I'd love to hear when this began too. And why are we at the mercy of israel?

Ok, here is a brief example, and NOT based on hate so please don't even go their, it is plain and simple fact backed up my 90% Jewish testament. I am looking for a rational and intelligent argument not a slagging competition.

Firstly, this is an essay from as British writer, once you have read and thoroughly digested this I will continue with SHOCKING evidence:

is Britain Under Zionist Control?
By
Alistair H. Fenner



�In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.� -- George Orwell, 1984

I am confident that no one will disagree with me when I state that most leaders in the government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are the lapdogs of the rulers of the US --and that whatever they say or do, 'our' leaders follow them like rats do the pied piper, regardless of whether it is in our national interests or not.

Knowing this, we must look into who truly has control over the US government, who mans the oligarchy of power within the United States, and who are those who have the power to say 'what�s what' and what our next move will be.

I am also confident that no one will disagree when I say that this �War on Terror� -- including the War on Iraq --was against our national interests: a war that we had no reason to go headlong into, and a war that has given so much fuel to the hate against our nation in the Middle Eastern world (those who understand that our foreign policy is governed by our unconditional support of Israel).
Not to mention the outright lies about �weapons of mass destruction,� claims that Saddam Hussein was a �direct threat to our nations,� and the claim that those men who waged war on America and the Western world by crashing two planes into the World Trade Centre did so because they �hated our freedom� � total nonsense!

It was because of the pro-Israel oligarchy within the US Government and the total Jewish control of our news and entertainment media -- a more powerful weapon than any other, and one that can change the minds of millions and manipulate the world -- that those planes struck.

This is far from an �anti-Semitic� statement by some wild-eyed �racist.� It is, rather, a fact easily confirmed by research. I hope this short essay will encourage you to do a little more research and to make a decision for yourself on these issues.

In 1998, on the American ABC network, Osama Bin Laden clearly gave his views on why he opposed America. Here are some excerpts:

"I say to them that they (Americans) have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration. We believe that it represents Israel inside America. Take the sensitive ministries such as the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense and the CIA, you will find that the Jews have the upper hand in them. They make use of America to further their plans for the world. ...For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been (by the Jews) slaughtered and assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their houses have been blasted, their crops destroyed."

So I ask: Is 'anti-Semitism' ever a result of Jewish behavior?

Due to the United Kingdom's unconditional support of the US Government -- and their and our unconditional support of Israel -- we are the country that, next to the US, is most likely to be attacked by terrorists. We have let Jewish supremacists take control of our country, its leaders, and its policies, which are ultimately in total opposition to our national interests.

"Next to the United States, Britain is probably the country most firmly under the Jewish thumb."1 -- Kevin Alfred Strom

Do you start to feel uneasy when I say that we are controlled by a cabal of Jewish Supremacists? Then please give your attention to a statement made by Ariel Sharon on October 3, 2001:

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."2

This clearly confirms what I and many others have been saying. Not only does Ariel Sharon himself confirm this, but also high-ranking officials of both the US and the UK.

In 2003, US Rep. James Moran made the daring statement that Jews were behind the push for war with Iraq:

"If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this. ...The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should."3

Later, Mr. Moran fell on his knees and apologised -- but the facts remain the same. On this side of the ocean, long-time MP Tam Dalyell, a man who has never apologised on the matter, referred to a �Jewish Cabal�:

�The cabal that I referred to was in the US,� ��there is far too much Jewish influence in the United States.� And �That is the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. I was thinking of [Paul] Wolfowitz, deputy defense minister, [Richard] Perle, [John] Bolton, assistant secretary of state, [Douglas] Feith, [Ken] Adelman, [Elliot] Abrams and [Ari] Fleischer, [Mr Bush�s press secretary.] Those people drive this policy.� He said that the government of the US is �Being unduly Influenced by a cabal of Jewish advisers�3, 4

Dalyell also confirms Jewish influence in Britain:

�I am worried about my country being led up the garden path on a Likudnik, [Ariel] Sharon agenda� adding that �Straw, Mandelson and co� were leading �a tremendous drive to sort out the Middle East�3, 4

'Lord' Michael Levy, Tony Blair�s chief fundraiser and personal envoy to the Middle East, also Jewish, received attention from Dalyell as well:

�I believe his influence has been very important on the Prime Minister and has led to what I see as this awful war and the sack of Baghdad.� Dalyell later went on to say that he �had picked out one person [in Britain] about whom I am extremely concerned and I have to be blunt about it. That is Lord Levy.� Finally he rightly asserts that �The British people have been deceived�3, 4

The United Kingdom is being turned into a Third World slum by uncontrolled non-White immigration. It is being plagued by dramatic increases in criminal violence, racial tension, AIDS, and cultural discord since the multiracialist experiment began here, along with a growing anti-White bias in the news and entertainment media.

These policies are being financed and led by Jewish supremacists through our government and media.

For anyone interested in looking more deeply into the real cause of our nations' destruction, please direct your attention to the books and links provided at the end of this essay. Take that extra step; you will be amazed by what you learn.

One example among many of outright Jewish admittance of their control was in the August 1996 issue of Moment magazine, which had as its headline �Jews Run Hollywood, So What?� Michael Medved, who is a well-known Jewish film critic, wrote this piece, in which he states:

�It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish power and predominance in popular culture. Any list of the most influential production executives at each of the major movie studios will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names.�

I will leave you now with one last quote, a fitting one, and one that I certainly subscribe to:

"Whether or not One World is the secret final objective of Zionism, World Jewry is the most powerful single force on earth and it follows that all the major policies which have been ruthlessly pursued through the last several decades must have had the stamp of Jewish approval. Indeed, common sense applied to such facts as have come to light must lead to the conclusion that the policies, directed against the most cherished Gentile values, were incubated by adroit Jewish brains and fulfilled, or carried to the verge of fulfillment, by the dynamism of the Jewish spirit. At the same time, so many Gentiles are associated with the conspiracy, both directly and through the formation of fronts, there are so many Gentile agents and agencies, and so many Gentile governments which have acquiesced in the conspiracy by falling into line with policies inimical to their own national interests, that it would be ludicrous to offload upon Jewish shoulders responsibility for the destruction, or near destruction, of Christendom and the Western World. Nevertheless, it would be equally ludicrous to deny the Jewish part, especially where it is admitted�

�Had we of the Gentile nations stood firm in defense of our own traditions and values, instead of cravenly capitulating, the Jews would have remained what they ought to be � a small sect living contentedly and at peace with their neighbors, exercising neither national nor international power and entertaining no inordinate ambitions. That, as I wrote at the outset, is how most of them actually do live. That a minority of them has been able to mount such a stupendous drive for world power is not their fault but ours alone, and it is we who must put things right � or perish. The way to put things right is not to engage in �hate campaigns� (which in any event more often than not play into Jewish hands) but to make a determined stand for our own legitimate and distinctive interests." -- A.K. Chesterson, The New Unhappy Lords

Think about what you have just read. I urge you to follow the links and read the books below and then decide for yourself. Look at both sides of the story; then, and only then, can you make an informed and educated decision.

Alistair H. Fenner
England, February 24th, 2004




NOTES:
1: ADV Broadcast of September 6, 2003 � "The Elites Know We�re Right" � www.natvan.com
2: Ariel Sharon on Israeli radio to Shimon Peres, as reported on the Kol Yisrael station.
3: CNN Inside Politics - www.cnn.com...
3: BBC News UK Edition - news.bbc.co.uk...
4: Alistair H. Fenner - A Word From The Wise: Tam Dalyell Speaks: A Leading English Official on Jewish Dominance

MEDIA CONTROL:
1: Who Rules America? - www.natall.com...
2: Jewish media control in Britain - www.seanbryson.com...
3: David Duke on Jewish media power - www.duke.org...


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you're using David Duke as a resource?
And quoting Osama's rhetoric is hysterical.


Thanks for the laughs Adolf.

Originally posted by Crakeur
you're using David Duke as a resource?
And quoting Osama's rhetoric is hysterical.


Thanks for the laughs Adolf.

Ignorance is bliss! Dispute the facts why don't you? Everything David Duke says can be backed up. You laugh about Osama and Duke, what about the Jew Melved and Sharon? Their are thousands of thousands of more information from Jewish sources I can give you. This Melved quote was only one, would you liek more?

Is living in blissful ignorance a happy life for you? Oh and thanks for the mature comment about Adolf.

Four of the largest five entertainment giants are now run or
owned by Jews. Murdoch's News Corp (at number four) is the only
gentile holdout -- however Rupert is as pro-Israel as any Jew,
probably more so." (Los Angeles Jewish Times242 Oct. 29. 1999)

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Originally posted by The Hunter

Originally posted by Crakeur
you're using David Duke as a resource?
And quoting Osama's rhetoric is hysterical.


Thanks for the laughs Adolf.

Ignorance is bliss! Dispute the facts, everything David Duke says can be backe dup. You laugh about Osama and Duke, what about the Jew Melved and Sharon? Their are thousands of thousands of more information from Jewish sources I can give you. This Melved quote was only one, would you liek more?

Is living in blissful ignorance a happy life for you?

"Blissful Ignorance" is your response for not being able to convert people to your cause using sources from people that use hate rascism to spread their message.

I prefer 'partisan scientifica' - take passion and opinion out of your responses and make an arguement.

Originally posted by Agent Alpha

Originally posted by The Hunter

Originally posted by Crakeur
you're using David Duke as a resource?
And quoting Osama's rhetoric is hysterical.


Thanks for the laughs Adolf.

Ignorance is bliss! Dispute the facts, everything David Duke says can be backe dup. You laugh about Osama and Duke, what about the Jew Melved and Sharon? Their are thousands of thousands of more information from Jewish sources I can give you. This Melved quote was only one, would you liek more?

Is living in blissful ignorance a happy life for you?

"Blissful Ignorance" is your response for not being able to convert people to your cause using sources from people that use hate rascism to spread their message.

I prefer 'partisan scientifica' - take passion and opinion out of your responses and make an arguement.

No, no, no. I do not want people to believe every word I say. I simply want people to look at what I say and look deeper into it. It is very easy to blow someting off by calling it racist, far to easy but like I say, what about myself and other Jews that say the same thing? Are we all racists?

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