possible Volcanic "event" in southern CA?

Interesting,,,,


Vehicle Accident in USA on Sunday, 24 July, 2011 at 16:37 (04:37 PM) UTC.
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Authorities say two people are dead after a small airplane crashed in flames in Southern California's Cleveland National Forest. Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Mike Fergus says both people on board were killed when the single-engine plane went down near Corona on Saturday. The Riverside Press-Enterprise says the plane crashed at the base of a mountain, caught fire on impact and sparked a small brushfire. Firefighters from Corona, the U.S. Forest Service and the California Department of Corrections quickly surrounded it after it burned about one acre. Officials from the National Transportation Safety Board are headed to the site and will lead the investigation. Authorities did not release provide any information about the victims or the aircraft's flight plan.

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Vehicle Incident in USA on Sunday, 24 July, 2011 at 04:06 (04:06 AM) UTC.
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A United Airlines flight en route to Los Angeles from New York made an emergency landing at McCarran International Airport Saturday after the pilot reported an in-flight emergency, a McCarran official said. McCarran spokeswoman Elaine Sanchez said that United Airlines flight 497, which was coming from John F. Kennedy International Airport, landed without incident in Las Vegas shortly after 1:30 p.m. The pilot noticed a light that indicated a possible mechanical emergency and made the detour to ensure the safety of the 111 passengers. "An indicator power light came on. Firefighters said something was wrong with the cooling equipment," said Sanchez. "The pilot felt safer to divert." The plane is expected to leave McCarren at about 5:30 p.m. and land in Los Angeles four hours later than the original arrival time. McCarren Airport serves more than 43 million passengers a year.

reply to post by BobAthome


how does this tie to the OP?

reply to post by SunnyDee


Volcanic particles are hell on aircraft ,,,fuel/oxyg,,tubine blades,,, etccc IF there was a venting,,,then a pilot would stay out of the area,, IF there was a vent event.

Originally posted by sabbathcrazy
I know allot of people dont like dutchsinse for what ever reason but please lets try and stay on topic. What could this be? Is some one in this area? Its not enough to say you are where you say you are. You need to prove it.

So you don't trust ATSers who tell you they're in the area and nothing is happening without proof, but dutchsinse is putting out nonsense and you try to imply that your source is off-topic?

I think your source is very much on-topic. If you want valid information, go to a more credible source.

Regarding extinct volcanoes that have become active again, someone mentioned Nabro.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov...

The volcano is one of many along Africa’s Great Rift Valley, which is slowly spreading apart.

Wherever the Earth is spreading apart, volcanic activity shouldn't be surprising, it's somewhat expected. I don't think there's any current spreading of the Earth's crust associated with the Lavic Lake field

pasadena.wr.usgs.gov...

What do you all make of this seismic activity from yesterday in Newberry Springs(near this supposed event)?

reply to post by SunnyDee


lava flow harmonics.

reply to post by BobAthome


HaHa, so blunt of you, made me laugh! That's what Dutch thought too.

Originally posted by SunnyDee
If a vent let off steam for a few minutes, it could be missed.

So now its steam?

Did anyone contact the military and ask them if they were blowing up something that day?

reply to post by SunnyDee


Since I'm young and unskilled meaning I'm ignorant on the subject. Could you please enlighten me as to what it actually is? Because you must know so much on the subject as to say everyone else is wrong.

reply to post by SunnyDee


sorry

Yale scientists predict volcanic explosions using sound waves
By Tapley Stephenson
Thursday, February 24, 2011

In what science blogger Anthony Watts called the “sound of ‘splode,” Yale scientists have found out how to use sound waves to predict violent volcano explosions.
Working with scientists at the University of British Columbia, geology and geophysics professor David Bercovici and his team created a model that judges the volatility of a volcano, using by the frequency of the sound that it emits.
The average volcano emits frequencies between 0.5 and 2 Hz. Minutes before an explosion that frequency jumps to a wider range between 0.5 and 7 Hz.
The sound is caused by the magma and gas within the volcano interaction, according to the model.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by SunnyDee
If a vent let off steam for a few minutes, it could be missed.

So now its steam?

Did anyone contact the military and ask them if they were blowing up something that day?
Hi Zorgon, I don't know what it is I am just throwing some uneducated guesses out there. The video in the original post looked like a plume, to me, and again to me, the weather radar pics people posted later did not prove to me that we were looking at just weather, since they did not match up to the original plume rad pic.

I know there is a very, I mean Very large volcanic lava field in that area along the highway to Arizona, that has always puzzled me, since it goes on for so long it's hard to tell where it starts. There are low mountain peaks all along that highway, so you can not tell if one peak is an old volcano or another next to it is. The summer weather long that stretch is known for summer squalls so, this could have been just an odd cloud on radar, but then again to me it looks different. It looks like a plume coming from a pinpoint(vent?). I could see people racing along the highway and maybe seeing a plume cloud and thinking it's nothing but a regular cloud.

If, as is apparently so, this was a one time occurence for now, my guess was that something vented in those volcanic rifts, so I said "maybe this was a vent letting off steam". Again just my guess and my own wording.

The Newberry Springs seismic graph from yesterday does make me want to know more though.

what is the radar showing?...that is the question....dutchsinse says it is a volcanic plume that basicaly ...puffed and then went out...and then we have ..simple cloud cover

and the 'plume' or 'cloud cover' seems to be in the area of an 'extinct' volcano in a lava field

so..if the weather radar image dutchsise is showing is for the local area that he claims and nobody seems to have seen a 'plume' just a darkening in the sky...what is it for that local area?

reply to post by zorgon


maybe a meth lab?

Originally posted by SunnyDee
pasadena.wr.usgs.gov...

What do you all make of this seismic activity from yesterday in Newberry Springs(near this supposed event)?

That seismogram contains no seismic activity; it looks in fact like every other seismogram on earth with no activity happening near it. Non-scientists are interpreting it; that's the problem. Anyone not familiar with seismograms should not try to interpret them; it's like a plumber trying to tell someone what their EKG chart means. Dutchsinse is certainly no seismologist. Every squiggle is to him "underground magma movement" when in fact it's the wind, or animals, or background noise in the data line, or Boy Scouts tramping around. Dutch is a sensationalist. Having scared people hang onto his every word makes him feel more important, so he takes every opportunity to scare them. I'm not saying he's always wrong about everything, but he's absolutely wrong about this.

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by SunnyDee

 

lava flow harmonics.

Harmonic tremors occur at frequencies too high to be visible on seismograms such as these. No 5 Hz signal (the average frequency of HT's) can be seen in a chart where each horizontal pixel represents 1.25 whole seconds. Only a tool which can analyze the raw wave data coming out of a seismometer, like Swarm, is capable of seeing them; once it's turned into a seismogram where 720 pixels represent 900 seconds, those fine details vanish.

reply to post by SunnyDee


What do YOU make of it ?

Do you even know how to read it and what the various colours mean ?

Somehow I doubt neither yourself nor Dutchnonsense know how to extrapolate from that graph.

There are no Earthquakes on that chart

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c1020096b15f.gif[/atsimg]

Image above taken from earthquake.usgs.gov...

Do you see anything like that "small earthquake" on the seismogram you posted ?

Not all the wiggles seen on the seismograms are due to earthquakes. Anything that produces ground vibrations could be recorded, for example a car that passes by the seismometer (this is why we try to locate most of our seismometers well away from roads). Since the electrical signals from the seismometers are typically transmitted to the USGS by microwave or over telephone wires, electrical and radio noise on the transmission path may also show up on the seismogram. Such interference is usually easy to distinguish from earthquake-generated signals because it is often erratic or "spikey" in appearance.

Took me all of 2 minutes to learn how to read a seismogram, I only wish Dutch and others would do the same and read up on things before making absurd claims about things they clearly have no education about.

i dont know anything about volcanic activity in that area, probibly debunked now anyways, just wanted to say WOW on getting jeff goldblum to do the voice on that first youtube vid

reply to post by Discotech


quote "There are no Earthquakes on that chart " unquote
Now pay attention:

LAVA FLOW harmonics.

Do you see the word EARTHQUAKE there?

Originally posted by SunnyDee
The Newberry Springs seismic graph from yesterday does make me want to know more though.

You mean this one?



I don't recall the last time I saw one so calm....

Iris has only 4 events in the past 30 days and they were 4.0, barely noticeable
www.iris.edu...

Earthquakes In or Near N America
in the Last 30 Days
(of magnitude >= 4.0)


DATE links are into the IRIS WILBER system where you can see seismograms and request datasets.

DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH km REGION
15-JUL-2011 10:37:57 31.97 -115.11 4.0 7.0 BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO
11-JUL-2011 01:58:53 32.80 -116.16 4.1 4.5 CALIF.-BAJA CALIF. BORDER REGION
10-JUL-2011 05:34:33 44.11 -128.57 4.1 10.2 OFF COAST OF OREGON
06-JUL-2011 07:18:52 36.66 -121.29 4.0 7.8 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA

All quiet on the Western Front


Japan however got two more over 6.0

24-JUL-2011 18:51:25 37.76 141.54 6.2 35.6 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
23-JUL-2011 04:34:24 38.95 142.02 6.4 35.7 NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN


And Alaska where there is a volcano getting more active

DATE and TIME (UTC) LAT-ITUDE LONG-ITUDE MAG-NITUDE DEPTH km REGION
23-JUL-2011 16:13:39 54.75 -161.06 4.3 47.5 ALASKA PENINSULA
23-JUL-2011 06:28:35 54.95 -161.37 5.3 44.8 ALASKA PENINSULA
22-JUL-2011 20:31:09 54.41 -160.67 4.0 34.7 ALASKA PENINSULA
22-JUL-2011 09:43:12 54.95 -161.28 4.6 41.6 ALASKA PENINSULA
21-JUL-2011 06:20:09 59.96 -152.83 4.1 122.0 SOUTHERN ALASKA
18-JUL-2011 06:34:46 54.91 -159.97 4.7 35.0 SOUTH OF ALASKA
16-JUL-2011 19:59:13 54.84 -161.30 6.2 41.0 ALASKA PENINSULA

Alaska volcano shows signs of impending eruption
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by zorgon...
You mean this one?
...

I don't recall the last time I saw one so calm....

You might want to look again... seems someone in the area sneezed around 12:05 pm local time.