Christina Forces Owen To Marry Her (Disturbing Video)

This kid's mom needs to have her slammed repeatedly in the oven, and I'm sure dad needs a nice ass kicking as well. I'm not only saying that because she is filming. Lil Owen should know what marriage is at his age, and that should've been the parents responsibility to teach him. I had girls doing this to me since I was about 3, and since I knew that marriage was a consensual act it never bothered me at all. I was a smug little prick so I also quietly explained it, which would always result in little girl tears being shed, but that's neither here nor there. The bottom line is that this boy doesn't even know what the hell marriage is, and it's his parents' fault.

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
reply to post by byteshertz

 

If my son was a habitual cry baby we would work on that.

You wouldnt need to "work on that" if you just handled the situation correctly - life is not fair, and kids need to have a tough layer to them, you teach them this through situations as they present themself because behaviour can only be learnt through training. Your little talk to your son afterwards about being a crybaby is not going to solve anything, because you just showed him if he screams you will fix the situation for him.

It is no different to parents picking up a baby every time it cries, you teach the child that if it wants to be picked up it just needs to cry - then you wonder why it always cries.
WATCH SUPERNANNY PEOPLE - She always says ignore the child, the child is fine, don't send the child the message that crying is how to get the desired outcome.

edit on 23-7-2011 by byteshertz because: (no reason given)

I get it now!! SuperNanny Any relation to SuperMan??


Why should the mother let this little girl antagonize her son to the point of tears again

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I also said that you probably ought to consider WHY he acts that way. It is a learned behaviour. The parent ignored him, laughs at him when he is upset. He feels helpless. In a childs mind, the thing to do to be heard is to get louder. As an adult we know this doesnt work. This child wont learn that, because the parent facilitates it.

Exactly it is learned behaviour, if you teach him that the situation is resolved when he gets louder you are showing him to keep doing it.
Why he currently acts this way is because he cried as a baby every time he wanted something his way and his parents gave it to him - children dont cry if the crying does not achieve the result they want. It is quite logical.

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
Why should the mother let this little girl antagonize her son to the point of tears again

What happens when she is not there?

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I also said that you probably ought to consider WHY he acts that way. It is a learned behaviour. The parent ignored him, laughs at him when he is upset. He feels helpless. In a childs mind, the thing to do to be heard is to get louder. As an adult we know this doesnt work. This child wont learn that, because the parent facilitates it.

Exactly it is learned behaviour, if you teach him that the situation is resolved when he gets louder you are showing him to keep doing it.
Why he currently acts this way is because he cried as a baby every time he wanted something his way and his parents gave it to him - children dont cry if the crying does not achieve the result they want. It is quite logical.

We are not saying facilitate him everytime he cries, we are saying stop the little girl from making him cry.

Please answer this:

WHY NOT TELL THE GIRL TO STOP??

If she had told the girl to stop when the video started none of this would have happened (including this thread!!).

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I also said that you probably ought to consider WHY he acts that way. It is a learned behaviour. The parent ignored him, laughs at him when he is upset. He feels helpless. In a childs mind, the thing to do to be heard is to get louder. As an adult we know this doesnt work. This child wont learn that, because the parent facilitates it.

Exactly it is learned behaviour, if you teach him that the situation is resolved when he gets louder you are showing him to keep doing it.
Why he currently acts this way is because he cried as a baby every time he wanted something his way and his parents gave it to him - children dont cry if the crying does not achieve the result they want. It is quite logical.

But you are treating this as a lone instance. Where did the kid learn to scream like that in the first place? It didnt just happen.

You are seeing this as far too black and white. There are many ways that children learn such behavior. Crying as a baby sure is one of them. Ignoring your child is another. In any event, it was THESE PARENTS who taught him this behavior, and it is this mother who is egging it on.

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
WHY NOT TELL THE GIRL TO STOP??

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SHE IS NOT THERE?

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
Why should the mother let this little girl antagonize her son to the point of tears again

What happens when she is not there?

if she is a proper parent, she has already taught him to deal with these situations. She is not a proper parent, and is only teaching him to get upset.

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
WHY NOT TELL THE GIRL TO STOP??

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SHE IS NOT THERE?

The sad fact is that she IS there.

If it were a fist fight would she let that continue too? Her son tried to tun away multiple times did he not?

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
WHY NOT TELL THE GIRL TO STOP??

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SHE IS NOT THERE?

If it got physical should she let that continue too? After all, what would happen if she wasn't there?

The sad fact is there are some females who really do think getting married and popping out kids is a career and validates their existence.

Well - this is just getting silly.

Every child is different. Every child reacts differently.

Some children can handle certain situations and some can't.

You can say you teach your children - - but what does that really mean? Some children will care - pay attention - do what their parents say - - - and some will not.

You do your best as a parent - - - and that's all there is.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

if she is a proper parent, she has already taught him to deal with these situations. She is not a proper parent, and is only teaching him to get upset.

She is teaching him in this video and you are labeling her an unfit parent?

LETS SEE WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY:

Source

Squabbles between siblings are common and a natural part of family dynamics. Often, it's wise to let kids work out their differences themselves and not intervene unless there's a possibility that one of them is going to get hurt . If the teasing is done in a friendly, playful, and mutual way, and both kids find it funny, then you probably don't need to worry. But if it becomes relentless, hurtful, and unkind, with one kid always doing the teasing and the other always on the receiving end, it's smart to address the issue. If the teasing continues unchecked, your older son may think such behavior is OK at school and with friends — and it could take a toll on your younger son's self-esteem. If you're concerned about the teasing, talk to your sons about it. Set ground rules for acceptable behavior at home, and stick to them.

Source

What do you do?
Guess what??? Mom comes running and often dad and sister too! So, the kid screams more. If they want something else? They scream again. The problem is if you react to this screaming by moving faster, it will stop, temporarily. It will stop until the child decides he wants something else. In reality, reacting by moving faster will make the screaming worse! Yikes again, right? The child will condition you to move a little faster and then? Then, you begin to anticipate the child's needs so that he won't scream at all. Does the word servant come to mind here? Wrong! Pretty soon the child is screaming about everything and it he sees that it works much better than the new language he is learning so he screams instead of talks! Ouch! Next thing you know, mom and dad are screaming at each other for the screaming to stop. Sound familiar?

It is your job as the parent to teach your child to be aware of others around him and respect their rights. He is not the center of the universe. Please don't treat your child like he is or he will be an unhappy adult. If you really love him, teach him to get along with others through teaching the importance of proper behavior. The next time you are tempted to ignore screaming, ask yourself, do you like to hear someone else's kid screaming to get their way? I think not.

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
The sad fact is there are some females who really do think getting married and popping out kids is a career and validates their existence.

That is part of the reason why this video disturbed me. I feel like this is just a glimpse of where that mentality comes from. Christina needs an intervention QUICK

reply to post by byteshertz


They are NOT siblings!! When a stranger comes in your house you should feel protected and not attacked. This mother should have protected and nurtured her own child in her own home and then explained later when the girl went home.

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Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
reply to post by byteshertz

 

They are NOT siblings!! When a stranger comes in your house you should feel protected and not attacked. This mother should have protected and nurtured her own child in her own home and then explained later when the girl went home.

As I said earlier he is screaming to manipulate the situation in his favour not because he is being abused. How are you going to know when something is actually wrong and how is he going to know what to do different to get somones attention.
The mother used the 1 on 1 situation that took place in her home to let her child learn how to deal with teasing, in reality this kid is of school age and in school 1 on 1 is a situation the kid would wish for.
I GIVE UP shelter your children, protect them from life and then wonder why they struggle with it later on....

Originally posted by byteshertz

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

if she is a proper parent, she has already taught him to deal with these situations. She is not a proper parent, and is only teaching him to get upset.

She is teaching him in this video and you are labeling her an unfit parent?

LETS SEE WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY:

Source

Squabbles between siblings are common and a natural part of family dynamics. Often, it's wise to let kids work out their differences themselves and not intervene unless there's a possibility that one of them is going to get hurt . If the teasing is done in a friendly, playful, and mutual way, and both kids find it funny, then you probably don't need to worry. But if it becomes relentless, hurtful, and unkind, with one kid always doing the teasing and the other always on the receiving end, it's smart to address the issue. If the teasing continues unchecked, your older son may think such behavior is OK at school and with friends — and it could take a toll on your younger son's self-esteem. If you're concerned about the teasing, talk to your sons about it. Set ground rules for acceptable behavior at home, and stick to them.

Source

What do you do?
Guess what??? Mom comes running and often dad and sister too! So, the kid screams more. If they want something else? They scream again. The problem is if you react to this screaming by moving faster, it will stop, temporarily. It will stop until the child decides he wants something else. In reality, reacting by moving faster will make the screaming worse! Yikes again, right? The child will condition you to move a little faster and then? Then, you begin to anticipate the child's needs so that he won't scream at all. Does the word servant come to mind here? Wrong! Pretty soon the child is screaming about everything and it he sees that it works much better than the new language he is learning so he screams instead of talks! Ouch! Next thing you know, mom and dad are screaming at each other for the screaming to stop. Sound familiar?

It is your job as the parent to teach your child to be aware of others around him and respect their rights. He is not the center of the universe. Please don't treat your child like he is or he will be an unhappy adult. If you really love him, teach him to get along with others through teaching the importance of proper behavior. The next time you are tempted to ignore screaming, ask yourself, do you like to hear someone else's kid screaming to get their way? I think not.

edit on 23-7-2011 by byteshertz because: (no reason given)

Laughing at him and encouraging the girl that is harassing him, all while invalidating his feelings, is not teaching him anything other than that his mother is not there for him.

As for your source, did you read it? It says in no uncertain terms that

if it becomes relentless, hurtful, and unkind, with one kid always doing the teasing and the other always on the receiving end, it's smart to address the issue.

This teasing met all those criteria. What did the mother do? Oh thats right, she filmed it, laughed at it, and encouraged the girl.

Originally posted by ProphecyPhD
The sad fact is that she IS there.
If it were a fist fight would she let that continue too? Her son tried to tun away multiple times did he not?

The kid goes to school and turns away when someone picks on him...

What happens?
He get abused more because he has not left the situation but shows the teasing is effecting him.

If he walks away from the situation, he shows that teaser that words have no effect on him as he can walk away. At this point the teaser will resort to physical abuse - in which case he can then scream and will be taken seriously because this is a rare occurance or the abuser will simply give up and find someone easier to pick on who gives them the reaction they seek.

This is not a fist fight - so stop speculating that it would be handled in the same mannor.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Laughing at him and encouraging the girl that is harassing him, all while invalidating his feelings, is not teaching him anything other than that his mother is not there for him.

As for your source, did you read it? It says in no uncertain terms that

if it becomes relentless, hurtful, and unkind, with one kid always doing the teasing and the other always on the receiving end, it's smart to address the issue.

This teasing met all those criteria. What did the mother do? Oh thats right, she filmed it, laughed at it, and encouraged the girl.

UNLIKE YOU:
This mother knows her child,
She knows the childs history,
She knows if her child knows the difference between trivial teasing and bullying,
She knows if her child manipulates situations by screaming
She knows if her child is capable of solving the issue without screaming

So how about we give the mother the benefit of the doubt that she knows the child is screaming to manipulate the situation, that the child understands this behaviour is not the way to resolution and that the child knows she loves him and will protect him AND STOP ASSUMING OTHERWISE from a 2 minute video clip of someones life that you know nothing about. You assume this child is hurt from teasing because he cries, you assume the child feels unprotected by his mother because she laughts, you assume to know these people and the understandings that already exist in the relationships between them.

I hope you are judged as a parent in the same way you judge others, imagine if a case worker was sent to investigate your parenting and passed judgement on 2 minute clip and labeled you an unfit parent. Shame.