'911 in Plane Site' - Has Anyone Seen It?

The live recorded videos are the most credible. I wonder why can't I find the third video of the 1st plane hitting the wtc. On that footage you could see the plane inside the building from the front during the explosion. The pilot's windows being crashed, the nose popped off. But the interesting thing is: Both engines are in their places under the wing during the explosion

If anyone knows a link, please put it in.

Originally posted by Istvan
The live recorded videos are the most credible. I wonder why can't I find the third video of the 1st plane hitting the wtc. On that footage you could see the plane inside the building from the front during the explosion. The pilot's windows being crashed, the nose popped off. But the interesting thing is: Both engines are in their places under the wing during the explosion

If anyone knows a link, please put it in.

wow i thought the video filmed by the french brothers was the only one of the first plane, i really like to see that too.

Originally posted by Istvan
The live recorded videos are the most credible. I wonder why can't I find the third video of the 1st plane hitting the wtc. On that footage you could see the plane inside the building from the front during the explosion. The pilot's windows being crashed, the nose popped off. But the interesting thing is: Both engines are in their places under the wing during the explosion.

By the way that you describe it I take it the video was shot from a helicopter that was very close to the building at the time of the attack or something?

There are three videos:

The Naudent bros video showing the plane approaching and hitting the first tower.
The firefighter video showing the impact from the back, too.
The TV studio video showing the crash from the front. It was the only video being spread to Europe right after the crash. It was definately a plane hitting the towers, not a missile or anything else.

Originally posted by Istvan
There are three videos:

The Naudent bros video showing the plane approaching and hitting the first tower.
The firefighter video showing the impact from the back, too.
The TV studio video showing the crash from the front. It was the only video being spread to Europe right after the crash. It was definately a plane hitting the towers, not a missile or anything else.

Do you have a link to the second video please Istvan? (the one by the firefighters?) I havent seen that one.

Does anyone think it may be possible for the 911 attacks to be a mix of the generally held theories?

I mean, perhaps a govt intelligence agency found out about the attacks and someone decided to manipulate them for their own uses. The explosives are planted at a strategic point in the WTC towers, Al-Qaeda carries out it's original plan and attacks the towers with hijacked planes and the explosives are detonated to bring down the towers and increase the scope of the tragedy. OBL said he didn't mean for the towers to collapse, maybe he didn't, maybe someone else DID. Hijack the hijack so to speak.

This to me seems more plausible than missing planes and missiles, what does everyone else think?

I know a lot of burning wreckage of the plane spewed out upon impact, including engines, fuel, and other extremely hot debris, could it be that this flew into another smaller building causing that to go up in flame and thats what we see as the 2 towers are ablaze still standing? BTW at the intreipd there is small peice of actual wreckage from a plane that hit the WTC and it just so happens to be the window piece. (i have a pic if you want me to post it) I know it could have been faked but so could all of those conspriacy videos ...So it did have windows. I think Gazrok is dead on in his evaluation of how things went down. These conspracy theories are WAY too far fetched for me. Looking at the nose explosion, its happening AS the plane impacts... so no big deal. Dont get so carried away with what you see ppl

[edit on 17-8-2004 by RealisticPatriot]

Originally posted by RealisticPatriot
I know a lot of burning wreckage of the plane spewed out upon impact, including engines, fuel, and other extremely hot debris, could it be that this flew into another smaller building causing that to go up in flame and thats what we see as the 2 towers are ablaze still standing?

i think any wreckage would have produced black smoke & that is a dust cloud - an extremely large one at that - not justified by bits of fallen wreckage hitting a building imho.


this live cnn footage shows the same cloud and the reporter stopped the person he was speaking to to report an explosion - spooky stuff

www.freedomfiles.org...

If you have not seen alex jone's THE ROAD TO TYRANNY it was out way before 911 farh. and alex put it for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i see what you mean, the 'smoke' is totally grey and expanding pretty quick too. Taking up the debris point, if a BIG chunk of hot debris hit the building, would it throw up a cloud that big, that fast? IMO debris wouldn't have enough energy to throw up that kind of cloud unless it was REAL big.

post edited to add a bit.

[edit on 17-8-2004 by Chris McGee]

Hi Agent47 - nice 2 c u back again

Road to Tyranny is also good - I think Alex Jones can go a bit over the top at times but he certainly raises more questions & valid points that really do need answering than most. If only mainstream media were as interested in investigating those questions.

I found what he showed of the Oklahoma bombing to be extremely interesting.

Ok it took me 4 hours of eyestraining internet surfing to get this image. The footage of this image was shown once and once only. The image does not appear to be in the CNN image archives for 911, if it is i sure as hell couldnt find it. It doesnt seem to be on any of the 911 sites that i looked at either. Some people asked me if i had the image so im posting it here. At the time it was taken both Towers were stil standing and you will also notice that the wind is blowing the smoke away from from the camera.The plume of smoke seems to be a totally seperate event from the Towers themselves.Also as yo can see it is a major plume of smoke.Ill leave it to you guys as to what it may be as i have no idea.I believe this was taken from the nort side of the tower but im not sure.


[edit on 17-8-2004 by Janus]

Im not saying that the debris hitting the building caused that cloud.. im saying that maybe the hot debris hit the building, the building ignited and then came down like the twin towers, since it was much smaller than the twin towers it took less time for the fire to spread Or.. maybe it hit a external feul tank of some sort, underground gas line who knows.. just a theory.

[edit on 17-8-2004 by RealisticPatriot]

Im not trying to pour water on your theory Patriot, im just posting the image because someone asked for it. Your ideas are as valid as anyone elses.

Originally posted by Janus
Do you have a link to the second video please Istvan? (the one by the firefighters?) I havent seen that one.

The firefighter (CNN version) seems to be the Naudet video. But I have seen a still crash video showing the plane from a far distance approaching and hitting the WTC1. I cannot find it yet...

Also, another recording of the WTC 1st crash avilable, but I have only found low resolution image from the footage. It was taken from a car mounted video camera.

Originally posted by Istvan

Originally posted by Janus
Do you have a link to the second video please Istvan? (the one by the firefighters?) I havent seen that one.

The firefighter (CNN version) seems to be the Naudet video. But I have seen a still crash video showing the plane from a far distance approaching and hitting the WTC1. I cannot find it yet...

Also, another recording of the WTC 1st crash avilable, but I have only found low resolution image from the footage. It was taken from a car mounted video camera.

Good luck with that mate, im finding that getting the important stuff is very difficult. Ill look as well and see if can find it with you. Its like one of those Russian Dolls, you open one and theres another and another. I had a wav file of firemen in the building talking to one another saying that the Fire in Tower one was not as bad as first thought and that they could knock it down, but ive recently done a full format and forgot to back it up, now i cant find the bloody thing on the net!

Ok i found a link to the Fireman tape, if you listen they dont seem that concerned about the fires and indicated that they can put them out. As the Auther of the website points out there are no reports of any raging infernos or any undue concern about the fires them selves. Bearing in mind these guys are Not only the Bravest and Best the NYFD had but also proffesional Firefighters, so i think that if the fires were uncontrolable they would have made some indication of that to their Battalion Chiefs.


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Originally posted by Janus
Good luck with that mate, im finding that getting the important stuff is very difficult. Ill look as well and see if can find it with you. Its like one of those Russian Dolls, you open one and theres another and another. I had a wav file of firemen in the building talking to one another saying that the Fire in Tower one was not as bad as first thought and that they could knock it down, but ive recently done a full format and forgot to back it up, now i cant find the bloody thing on the net!

Do you know, what I think? That the important information is "gone"! There is further less information and video on the net about the WTC attack. Can you believe that? I just can't find those vids that I have seen a year ago. Only that manipulated, duplicated pixelized bull from CNN. Nothing interesting.

What the hell is happening?

[edit on 18-8-2004 by Istvan]

Originally posted by Istvan

Originally posted by Janus
Good luck with that mate, im finding that getting the important stuff is very difficult. Ill look as well and see if can find it with you. Its like one of those Russian Dolls, you open one and theres another and another. I had a wav file of firemen in the building talking to one another saying that the Fire in Tower one was not as bad as first thought and that they could knock it down, but ive recently done a full format and forgot to back it up, now i cant find the bloody thing on the net!

Do you know, what I think? That the important information is "gone"! There is further less information and video on the net about the WTC attack. Can you believe that? I just can't find those vids that I have seen a year ago. Only that manipulated, duplicated pixelized bull from CNN. Nothing interesting.

What the hell is happening?

[edit on 18-8-2004 by Istvan]

I think you are right Istvan, all the ifo in the public domain is stuff that has been mulled over again and again. Altough the stuff out there is important there is very little new info comming out. The next logical step would be the freedom of information act but you would have more chance catching a snowball in Hell then getting your hands on any of that info.