Debunkers. What about THIS UFO?

Originally posted by flexy123

Originally posted by Thunda
reply to post by flexy123

 

Sorry pal- too many uninformed opinions for me to deal with in one lunch break- I would like you to point me to the evidence of the Norway spiral being "viral ad campaign".

Also,"The point is there IS a possible, logical explanation and unless DISPROVEN a "UFO" theory cannot be accepted. Simple as that. "- oh well, if its that simple..........gosh, Im embarrassed- guess that the whole UFO question wrapped up then!

no, the whole. But about 98% of all so called "sightings".

I agree, but its the 2% that we are interested in. If even 0.0001% are genuine extra terrestrial space craft, then we have a facinating situation on our hands.

Originally posted by Thunda
No, what makes me happy is addressing the OP's question with informed debate, not spouting trite comedic opinions, but hey, Its not gonna be my day is it

I'm not joking about the fact that there's no sign of intelligence in the movement of those balloons. After they are pulled out on the string, the movement is very haphazard and not intelligent. That is in fact an informed observation, which some people choose to disregard and still claim "intelligence" when it's anything but. I was being tongue in cheek about the drunk alien pilots but it really does look more like that, than any kind of intelligence. And it looks even more like turbulence than either one of those options.

Originally posted by flexy123
I agree, but your "plane flies by" is another logical mistake

In fact, we do NOT see a plane fly by. We see a cut in the scene, and then a NEW SCENE, a very lengthy camera pan....and then (zoomed in) a plane "somewhere on the sky".

Obviously, there is no "orb" or whatever present in the scene with the plane.

Did you watch the video I posted?

If there was a balloon in the same scene with the plane I wouldn't expect the effect to be simultaneous. The vortex test video shows a time delay after the plane flies by. But we do agree the video is edited and that's definitely part of the problem with Maussan's credibility.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


Their not balloons einstein i think you need a new prescription.

I have no idea what this is and because all we have is a low quality video, no one will probably know for sure unless someone comes forward with further evidence. But I think there are some logical conclusions we can draw from the video:

- the smaller things come out of the center larger thing - whether or not they all originally fit in that larger thing is hard to determine based on the video, but I think we can assume they were all originally inside the center object.
- the smaller things are strung together in some fashion
- once fully released, they appear to have the random movements one would expect of things floating in the wind that are strung together (note the one clip of about 5 of the things erratically moving, but still showing the characteristics of being tied together)
- these things appear to be quite reflective, as they appear dark on one side and bright on the other, presumably the side facing the sun
- when originally released, the smaller things seem to come out with some force - hard to tell if this is mostly upward force due to being lighter than air or if there is some lateral force pushing them out - if it's the latter, it seems harder to explain

I would say based on these conclusions that we *are* seeing a large bag of balloons all tied together. Just mho.

reply to post by redtic

Probability that this is the most logical interpretation of the video: 99.99%

Originally posted by Elvis Hendrix
Their not balloons einstein i think you need a new prescription.

Probability I would take advice from someone who can't spell: 0.01%

reply to post by redtic


Point is there is nothing really "weird" or out of the ordinary in this footage, it looks like some real event filmed which could be anything - most likely a scientific experiment of some kind.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


You can only spell with letters, not numbers. Where do you people come from??

Mr. Balloon on a string theory, exactly who is pulling the "string"? Where is the string? Where is the proof of anything you claim?

reply to post by SergeantTrammelant


Hyper-dimensionality is a much more logical explanation for this particular sighting imho. For the simple fact that those smaller spheres, if you put them back in the middle sphere, for one should not fit in the sphere of that size. Also, as the smaller spheres were exiting the middle sphere, the middle sphere's size did not change. This obviously defies conventional physics. It is really absurd that people would say these are balloons. I've never seen balloons do that or imagined they could. I guess these people just got bigger imaginations than I do. Either that or they had a whole lot cooler birthday parties than I did

reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand

If I could prove it I would have said 100% instead of 99.99% probability.

But I can tell what I'm looking at to my satisfaction whether or not I can prove it to anyone else. They look like balloons, and they behave like balloons, so it seems very, very likely to me that they are balloons. And that's not even factoring in how much of Maussan's other UFO footage is balloons. When you factor that in, it's even more likely to be balloons.

If you want to think it's something else, be my guest.

reply to post by redtic


By your own arguement, these objects are all in the original object. How is that possible that the original object, which seems to be almost the same size as the spheres it is ejecting, contains all these objects. It does not change size or shape- are you suggesting that somehow it blow the balloons up as it ejects them?

By the way, I never said anything about the ejected spheres being independently intelligently controlled.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


That's nice. But you didn't answer any question I posed. Where is the string, and who is pulling it? You seemed 99.999% sure that they are balloons on a string. So show me the reasoning behind your argument.

Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
That's nice. But you didn't answer any question I posed. Where is the string, and who is pulling it? You seemed 99.999% sure that they are balloons on a string. So show me the reasoning behind your argument.

Whoever is pulling the string is off camera.

There are very good shots of the balloons showing how they are linked together by a string. If you haven't noticed it you haven't watched the videos closely.

Watch the videos closely.

Edit to add:
Here's a screenshot where it's pretty obvious the balloons are connected by a string at 2:37. Look at the left side of the screen, but watch the video full size, on a good sized monitor.

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If you can watch that and think those balloons aren't connected by a string, then I cant help you...they are, it's obvious to me.

Originally posted by Thunda
reply to post by redtic

 

By your own arguement, these objects are all in the original object. How is that possible that the original object, which seems to be almost the same size as the spheres it is ejecting, contains all these objects. It does not change size or shape- are you suggesting that somehow it blow the balloons up as it ejects them?.

I think it's impossible to tell from the video how big the object originally was (do we ever see it prior to any of the smaller objects being released?), and it's pretty obvious to me that it's at least bigger than the smaller objects. I think it's hard to judge full size (height, width, depth) from a video of such poor quality. So is it more likely that it's a bit of an optical illusion as to the size of the center object vs the smaller objects, or, as someone else noted, that we're witnessing something hyper-dimensionally and the laws of physics as we currently know them are being broken?

Originally posted by CastleMadeOfSand
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

That's nice. But you didn't answer any question I posed. Where is the string, and who is pulling it? You seemed 99.999% sure that they are balloons on a string. So show me the reasoning behind your argument.

Well..according to logic the object which got shot out first is pulling the rest?

Easiest explanation. TATA.

reply to post by Thestargateisreal


Absolutely nothing. And a big Lol at you for thinking "if its not on the evening news, its not real"
What a sheep.

reply to post by Elvis Hendrix

Here we go again with the balloon theory. God can you munters not come up with anything more original. What a joke.

Yeah. it's hilarious. Almost as much as this:

i always thought these things look more like organic life rather than flying machines!.Hey there is very wierd looking life forms swarming around in our deepest oceans, why not in the upper atmoshphere?

Why not? Sure. Find me a solid study on the matter and link it here please.

like the tether incident, there just organisms that just happen to live up there. they dont have to be intelligent!

Really? Another solid link for this one too please.

Their not balloons einstein i think you need a new prescription.

Einstein and an insult...Your replies are just getting better aren't they ??

If they are not balloons, could you please provide us with your supreme insight ??

I await with bated breath.

Originally posted by SonoftheSun

Einstein and an insult...Your replies are just getting better aren't they ??

If they are not balloons, could you please provide us with your supreme insight ??

I await with bated breath.

Aliens. Duh.

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by SonoftheSun

Einstein and an insult...Your replies are just getting better aren't they ??

If they are not balloons, could you please provide us with your supreme insight ??

I await with bated breath.

Aliens. Duh.

Oh so we've passed the UFO theory...aliens now...

I love your sarcasm !!

Its a UFO poop machine!

reply to post by SonoftheSun


Funny I thought this forum was about ideas.. If every thread is deemed to be balloons then why are we here.
I didnt hear your amazing thoughts on the issue !!

But if it makes you happy il join in.
HEY EVERYONE ITS JUST BALLOONS AGAIN.
pesky balloons get everywhere.