All Non-Africans Part Neanderthal, Genetics Confirm

Not that I believe this just yet. No matter how scientific it is supposed to be. But what does this make Africans then? Aliens? A seperate species all their own? Or other?

reply to post by Klassified


it guess it makes them humans. everybody else is a neanderthal half breed.
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I have read that the basque language in the Pyrenees mountains is speculated to have descended from the neanderthal language. It is unique unto itself.

Out there, unscientific, but interesting none the less.

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reply to post by TheRepublic


No... not really. The neanderthal derived part of the genome is an incredibly tiny fraction. It hardly constitutes "half".

First, we discover the oldest hominid fossils come from Africa.
Next, we discover that blonde hair and blue eyes are a genetic mutation from a darker original pigmentation.

Could it be that Master W. Fard Muhammad and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad were correct (Nation of Islam)?

i.e., The Black Man is the Original Man, the cream of the Earth and the white man is the grafted devil, tied off beyond the Caucus Mountains, thus being called Caucasian.

reply to post by SG-17


How is it that Cro Magnum man has the largest brain of all, and neanderthals also had larger brains than modern man.

The reality is that there is still a great deal more to this gig saw puzzle yet to be revealed.

well then Caucasians, Asians are the two largest groups which are not pure Sapiens-Sapiens

also the Indus colony of humans must have had some mixed blood with Neanderthals...

how did this news your reporting excape the rest of science ?


does this mean that Oprah is forever a leader (subliminally or overtly)

reply to post by TheRepublic


Forgive the bad joke, apparently ancient European girls were so easy a caveman could do them

This is a pretty cool discovery unfortunately I have a feeling it could be spun by those who perpetuate myths of racial superiority. It definitely shows that there wasn't much separation between us the Neanderthals if interbreeding was still possible. Makes me wonder about the folks who crossed the Bering Strait land bridge, did they leave before or after all this interbreeding with Neanderthals took place?

Fascinating find, star and flag.

reply to post by VforVendettea


The Basque also have the largest percentage of population without the Rhesus monkey positive blood marker, which leads to a great deal more speculation.

Chances are there is still a lot more to be revealed.

I woner if there are signs of evolution within the neanderthal timeline. Do neanderthals from 300k ya, look like the ones from 30k ya?Did they change during the warm spells. Mostly they survived through ice ages. Could the arrival of humans forced them to evolve?

How much DNA do we have in common?

Well that does it for me, the aliens came down and altered our DNA to give us an evolutionary jump..... /sarcasm

Originally posted by TheOneElectric

Essential viewing.

The other thing is that the offspring of the neanderthals and humans likely had the best traits of both groups which allowed them to be the dominant group.

One thing I find strange about his theory though is that they would have dark skin like an African gorilla. It seems that if Neanderthals were from the northern colder climates they would have lighter skin.. he also says nocturnal. This would have likely made them even lighter as well as their eye color. Where did the light skin and eyes of Europeans come from? I heard all humans with blue eyes had one common ancestor.. what era was this from? Could it have been a neanderthal?

interesting thread and interesting video.

defiantly gives me something worth considering. so quite a few of us may have "Neanderthal" DNA, weird but interesting all the same. i would like to see more information about it. first question i would have to ask, is if a guy were to say get it on with a female ape or vice versa would it be possible for a child to be produced? a highbread so to speak. if so then it would give this theory a little more substance.

even if not it is possible we could still be able to do so, with a neanderthal. then there is another question. i know one set of slightly different creatures can intermingle and produce offspring, that is the horse and donkey. the offspring is the MULE. the one problem with that is that mules can't reproduce to my knowledge. therefore even if man and neanderthal could produce offspring would said offspring suffer the same issue of not being able to breed?

we are even (at least to this point), being rather civil in comments from each side. now just imagine that the topic was, "All Africans Part Neanderthal, Genetics Confirm". with all the same information, only stating it with this difference in information. what are the odds we'd have already seen 100 posts from almost EVERYONE, damming it as racist? i think pretty dammed good.

Originally posted by TheRepublic
reply to post by TheOneElectric

 

i am still watching the video which is interesting, but what do you think about the scientific findings that all non africans have neanderthal genes?

That would imply that the only "pure" strains of homo sapiens would be those who stayed in Africa... which is interesting. And amusing, now that I think of it.

They would probably have interbred with the other species of hominids... homo Heidelbergensis and so forth. What it suggests is multiple (or continuous) waves of migration out of Africa (which does kind of make sense), along with a lot of climate and geographic isolation.

Originally posted by generik
first question i would have to ask, is if a guy were to say get it on with a female ape or vice versa would it be possible for a child to be produced? a highbread so to speak. if so then it would give this theory a little more substance.

Kind of unlikely. Any offspring (in the VERY unlikely event there was (and don't bring up the "humanzee... he's been tested multiple times. He's pure chimpanzee.)) the child would be infertile -- couldn't reproduce.

Humans and the nearest cousins (gorillas, chimps, bonobos) are too different (same family, different genus and species.) Humans and Neanderthals come from the same ancestor and could breed and be cross-fertile. They are both in the genus "homo."

Like wolves and dogs and coyotes can all crossbreed successfully because they're from the genus "canis" -- and all their pups are fertile and can continue breeding.

Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by TheRepublic

 

Forgive the bad joke, apparently ancient European girls were so easy a caveman could do them

im no genetic scientist but i think that because it was the x chromosome (the one in females) perhaps it was the neanderthal girls who were the easy ones. haha

I'm not buying this BS and neither should you.

I see an agenda here and it's consistent with certain current trends.

ETA: Ask yourself why the most primitive remains are found in Africa.

reply to post by TheOneElectric


That's a crock of sh*t. Right in the beginning he says that humans were affected by "unique" environmental pressures, and that's why they look different from other apes. News flash, Neanderthals not only inhabited the same environments as us, but they are more closely related to us than other existing apes.

Nice try, though.

Originally posted by 2012srb
I'm not buying this BS and neither should you.

I see an agenda here and it's consistent with certain current trends.

ETA: Ask yourself why the most primitive remains are found in Africa.

edit on 7/18/2011 by 2012srb because: (no reason given)

Where is the BS here? What is the agenda? The only thing that homo sapien sapiens got from neanderthals through crossbreeding was an improved immune system, which is why they weren't killed off by Asian and European diseases when they first arrived.

Because Africa is where primates originated. We've found fossils of non-homo primates, like gigantopithecus, in Asia. Not all primate species were migratory/exploratory like the homo genus is. New world monkeys migrated across the Atlantic on natural rafts (like fallen trees, vegetation, etc) about 40 million years ago.

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by TheRepublic
reply to post by TheOneElectric

 

i am still watching the video which is interesting, but what do you think about the scientific findings that all non africans have neanderthal genes?

That would imply that the only "pure" strains of homo sapiens would be those who stayed in Africa... which is interesting. And amusing, now that I think of it.

They would probably have interbred with the other species of hominids... homo Heidelbergensis and so forth. What it suggests is multiple (or continuous) waves of migration out of Africa (which does kind of make sense), along with a lot of climate and geographic isolation.

Believe it or not , this was my first thought as well.
The Branches of the Ape-like to the Human are a tangled web.
and that this genetic "crossover" stuff was happening in Africa in even earlier periods, when there were many types of Hominids walking the Earth at the same time.
Lots of semi-differentiation, without complete speciation(?) allowed for many cross-overs.
We'll never really find any kind of missing links...Because there is not a chain at all.

As I suspected, from research in the past 8 years or so. Interesting the conclusions are finally met in this current research.

Part Neanderthal.
Neanderthals remains were first discovered in the Neander Valley(now Belgium)hence their name. They originated from that area(or some studies say). Later on humans out of Africa 'out bred' the Neanderthals.

I've read prior studies that say 1 to 4% of the genome is present in Europeans. Small percentage but accounts for the adaption to areas with variations such as lighter skin to help with VitD absorption-in places with little sunlight.