Herman Cain: Communities have right to ban mosques

Originally posted by disasternaut
SOURCE: libertyscott.blogspot.com

Heh

Some guys blog is not a valid source.
Greece is now slowly moving into a socialism to try and mirror the northern europeans, but before 09, they were actually a pretty hard right wing government setup.

Greece is trying to get out of the nightmare caused by that system...a testiment to how well neocapitalist

Here is a source for you
articles.cnn.com...:WORLD

Note how its CNN, not some guys blog.
I hope they do well in their restructuring, but there has been a lot of damage and a lot of debt incurred so far...the country is in a mess from the right wing con's...

Go figure, greedy people make a hurt economy worse..who woulda thunk it...our "job creators" are actually just greedy country killers after all.

Originally posted by Openeye

I have never and will never condone these actions, so please do not put words in my mouth.

Ah yes, but we don't hear you CONDEMNING them either---just like we never hear it from "moderates"

If people in this thread haven't realized, I am not defending Islam nor do I defend any established religion. I am defending those who practice Islam in peace... Wholesome righteous Muslims are very real...

There are no "wholesome, righteous Muslims" who "practice Islam in peace". There are only Muslims who are waiting and pretending until their numbers increase, as you would know if you read a previous post. The "moderates" only get annoyed with the "radicals" because they interfere with their nice little earner, the cash cow, the Golden Goose that westerners are to Muslims.

As another great anti-jihad warrior, Hugh Fitzgerald, pointed out:

"...We Infidels have no sure way to distinguish the real from the feigning "moderate" Muslim. We cannot spend our time trying to perfect methods to make such distinctions. Furthermore, in the end such distinctions may be meaningless if even the "real" moderates hide from us what Islam is all about... yesterday's "moderate" can overnight be transformed into today's fanatic -- or tomorrow's.

Shall we entrust our own safety to the dreamy consolations of the phrase "moderate Muslim" and the shapeshifting concept behind it that can be transformed into something else in a minute?"

The ritual human sacrifice aspect of Jihad that you bring up is very interesting...But I would not call this a black magic principle..., but it is similar. Sacrificing ones life for God is one of the greatest honors present in the holy books from the mid east. I was reading a story about the US Christian soldiers who have bible passages on their guns, and say its Gods will that they kill Muslims.

This kind of deliberate twisting is typical of "taqiyya" and "kitman" religiously-sanctioned deception to hide the truth of Islam from infidels, so perhaps you are one of the many Islamic apologists/PR/damage control shills pervasive in the West.

Nobody's talking about "self-sacrifice"---we're talking about HUMAN SACRIFICE OF HELPLESS VICTIMS AGAINST THEIR WILL, as a horrific ritual offering to a Pagan Moon God. And your attempt to drag Christian American soldiers into it is nauseating.

As for the satanic black magic practices of Islam, I intend to describe that further in a future thread.

Originally posted by Tib50
There are no "wholesome, righteous Muslims" who "practice Islam in peace".

That is such total fear mongering BS.

People are people. They are individuals.

Just as there are radical Christians and peace loving Christians - - - people are varied and individual within their belief.

This fear based hatred - - is becoming increasingly annoying.

Originally posted by SaturnFX


Wait, why would you say socialism wouldn't work, then start talking about communism as to why it wont work...

its like me saying I don't think the republic will work, so I start pointing out flaws of a monarchy..
its two completely seperate systems..matter of fact, socialist countries tend to fiercely hate communist countrys...

Disasternaut is quite right to follow his natural instincts about socialism and communism, and I hope he will not be hornswoggled by the smooth, slick arguments of this Saturnine member of the Unholy Muslim/Marxist Allliance, recommended by Vladimir Lenin himself as a good way to destroy western civilization !!!

Disasternaut is also right to equate socialism with communism, as Lenin himself said:

"The goal of socialism is communism".

If western civilization can be represented by an apple, Socialism is the sneaking way a worm eats an apple from within, while Communism is someone chopping the apple up with an axe. Either way, the apple gets it.

A socialism works...its in place already in areas that are the most educated, healthy, and cultured on earth...the happiest places on earth if you read the reports. (check denmark, sweden, etc)

This is laughable. Please DO check Denmark, Sweden and Formerly Great Britain to see how the FabianSocialists/Marxists have tried to destroy their economies and the ethnic and cultural identity of the Danes, Swedes and British by flooding them with immigrants, in particular, Muslims, because they are the Marxist's special allies.

Final add...northern eurpoean countries are not full socialism...its a socio-capitalist setup...compared to us, they are total socialism, compared to pure socialism, they are capitalists...its actually a exceptionally well working hybrid

And if you want to see what Full Socialism looks like, please read George Orwell's "1984", "Animal Farm", and Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World".

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Tib50
There are no "wholesome, righteous Muslims" who "practice Islam in peace".

That is such total fear mongering BS.

People are people. They are individuals.

Just as there are radical Christians and peace loving Christians - - - people are varied and individual within their belief.

This fear based hatred - - is becoming increasingly annoying.

Some call it individuality but have you seen the collective tsunami caused when you rattler their cage, draw a cartoon of Muhammad or write a book like Salman Rushdie did and you get worldwide riots and killings in Islamic countries and now here, even the rumours of burning a Koran ends up with dozens killed let alone it happening beforehand.

To me it is a collective, there are large groups and populations who listen to their religious leaders telling you that America is Satan, and Britain and Israel alike should be targeted to some extent and the Crusades are never forgotten yet their own past crimes no one likes to tell the tail. This collective also has messages to conquer the West, to take over London and Rome and yet people just let it happen and let it be said like hearsay and no one takes it seriously.

Their message is Islam must take over the world, the Christian message is preach the Gospel to the nations and when that is done Christ will come, so two different forces are at work here in the religious sense let alone the politically correct one.

A very popular opinion now is to ban all religions so that even Christian values and history has to come down at some point, this then becomes another conspiracy within it self.

Originally posted by Annee
This fear based hatred - - is becoming increasingly annoying.

Yes, it IS annoying, ain't it? Just when the New World Order has everyone lulled into fatal, passive acceptance of their own destruction, some annoying folks just WILL keep using their annoying rights of Freedom of Speech to wake people up.

And isn't it even more annoying when people DO start waking up? That's why the New World Order Globalist Mafia at the United Nations is trying to stifle freedom of speech and make it ILLEGAL to CRITICIZE ISLAM IN ANY WAY, anywhere in the world !!! Criticize Christianity & Judaism all you want, but not Islam.

Islam is the Darling of the New World Order, and it's high time people started waking up to that fact.

reply to post by Tib50

Ah yes, but we don't hear you CONDEMNING them either---just like we never hear it from "moderates

Semantics. The fact that you could not understand my post is astounding. Thank you for putting more words in to my post.

"...We Infidels have no sure way to distinguish the real from the feigning "moderate" Muslim. We cannot spend our time trying to perfect methods to make such distinctions. Furthermore, in the end such distinctions may be meaningless if even the "real" moderates hide from us what Islam is all about... yesterday's "moderate" can overnight be transformed into today's fanatic -- or tomorrow's."

By using this quote, you have displayed your ignorance. You cite a man who is definitively a bigot. All are guilty by association? My friends who are peaceful Muslims will kill me when the time is right?

What about all the Muslim activists who are advocating reform, women's rights, democracy and the end of sharia law? Are they all clandestine agents just deceiving the west into trusting them? Your PCT ideals are insane.

While radical Islam is a problem, your radical views are of the same kin. You may argue that you would not commit the atrocities enacted by the extremists. But in your words are the veiled ideas of Nazi doctrine. Banning Islam in America would not be enough for you, only their complete destruction. You have betrayed your Christian philosophy of forgiveness and pacifism for Christian Jihad. I have said it before and I will say it again, your "dominating ego" has betrayed you.

reply to post by SaturnFX

Conceptually, no problem if they actually attempt to sacrifice someone, then there is a problem

Come on! You think they are going to put up posters or something.

"Human Sacrifice Friday night at the temple, food an beverages will be available for purchase. Raffle for rare Obsidian sword".

People just start disappearing at even intervals before religious ceremonies.

Christ was a martyr, he sacrificed himself, big difference from being captured and beheaded, or raped or both, against your will. How do you not see the difference?

And history repeats itself for the nth time...

The smart folks are trying to warn the accepting dimwits of their soon to be fate.

What will happen?!

Smart folks fight back and or escape.

The dimwits accept their fate with open arms, missing heads and loose body cavities.

Originally posted by Openeye
reply to post by Tib50

 

Semantics. The fact that you could not understand my post is astounding. Thank you for putting more words in to my post.

Here are your words exactly:

"I am implying that any such act comparable to slavery is condemnable. All of the examples you just cited would fit into this category."

Semantics, indeed---"condemnable" is not the same as actually condemning something, and is hardly a resounding condemnation of horrific Islamic atrocities, all of which are RELIGIOUSLY SANCTIONED. In fact, it's just the sort of calculated, feeble pretence of condemnation practiced by "moderates".

"...We Infidels have no sure way to distinguish the real from the feigning "moderate" Muslim. We cannot spend our time trying to perfect methods to make such distinctions. Furthermore, in the end such distinctions may be meaningless if even the "real" moderates hide from us what Islam is all about... yesterday's "moderate" can overnight be transformed into today's fanatic -- or tomorrow's." Hugh Fitzgerald

By using this quote, you have displayed your ignorance. You cite a man who is definitively a bigot.

Hugh Fitzgerald is a hero, along with so many others, like Fjordman, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders, Glenn Beck, David Horowitz, Ann Barnhardt, Pastor Terry Jones, and the English Defence League, among many others.

What about all the Muslim activists who are advocating reform, women's rights, democracy and the end of sharia law? Are they all clandestine agents just deceiving the west into trusting them?

Would those be like the female Kuwaiti politician calling for Muslim men to kidnap western women as sex slaves, like they did in the good old days, because it's all allowed in Islam? No? Not that Muslim activist? Which ones do you mean, then?

But in your words are the veiled ideas of Nazi doctrine.

Hilarious! The Grand Muslim Mufti of Jerusalem was a great FRIEND OF HITLER, even sending Muslim troops to fight alongside the Nazis in World War II, AGAINST BRITAIN & THE US, and even SUGGESTING "The Final Solution" of the gas chambers to Hitler, and offering to help construct them !!! Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" is still a bestseller in Muslim countries, all of which you are well aware.

And we find, from other posters, that the real reason Muslims want to exterminate Jewish people is because Mo wanted them to accept him as The Messiah, and they flat out refused, putting him in such a conniption fit that he ordered his followers to keep killing Jews until there were NONE LEFT UPON THE EARTH . How about that for "Nazi doctrine"?

Banning Islam in America would not be enough for you, only their complete destruction.

Oh, here we go, Muslims whining and playing the victim, as they always do. Of course banning Islam in America is not enough! That's like saying someone comes from a foreign land, moves into your spare bedroom and plans to kill you, take over your house and turn you and your family into slaves, and so you just "ban" him from doing that?

No, you just tell him to pack his bags and go back to his own country. What is he doing in your house anyway? Did you ask him to come there? No, you did not.

reply to post by Openeye


The guy isn't expressing bigotry, he is expressing legitimate concerns for his own safety, the safety of his loved ones, and his culture.

The bigger problem is that people call this bigotry. Bigotry seems to be the standard call anytime someone stands up for their rights when it involves anyone of color. Its alright to call people NAZIs, and assume all NAZIs are horrible people, but when that same standard is aimed at groups that are not primarily white, suddenly it is bigotry.

No your Muslim friends won't kill you once they take over, they will console you after your daughter or niece is whipped for allowing a man to rape her, and explain that is how things are supposed to be. They will be there to convert you to Islam.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Conceptually, no problem if they actually attempt to sacrifice someone, then there is a problem

Come on! You think they are going to put up posters or something.

"Human Sacrifice Friday night at the temple, food an beverages will be available for purchase. Raffle for rare Obsidian sword".

People just start disappearing at even intervals before religious ceremonies.

Christ was a martyr, he sacrificed himself, big difference from being captured and beheaded, or raped or both, against your will. How do you not see the difference?

500 stars for that wonderful post !!!

reply to post by Tib50

Semantics, indeed---"condemnable" is not the same as actually condemning something, and is hardly a resounding condemnation of horrific Islamic atrocities, all of which are RELIGIOUSLY SANCTIONED. In fact, it's just the sort of calculated, feeble pretence of condemnation practiced by "moderates".

Lol. Fine if it will make you feel better I condemn all acts of violence committed by anyone against the innocent. This a statement I make in all honesty.

Would those be like the female Kuwaiti politician calling for Muslim men to kidnap western women as sex slaves, like they did in the good old days, because it's all allowed in Islam? No? Not that Muslim activist? Which ones do you mean, then?

Of course not. Since rape is forbidden in Islam anyone who practices it is not practicing true Islam, only the perverted form which is instigated by the powerful. All the verses in the Quran which many suggest approve of rape are guilty of interpreting the same perversion. Similar to other holy books.

The activists I mention are people like Na'eem Jeenah, Johari Abdul-Malik, Aslam Abdullah, and Raheel Raza. There are many more, all of which want to reform the present state of Islam and enter another golden age.

Hilarious! The Grand Muslim Mufti of Jerusalem was a great FRIEND OF HITLER, even sending Muslim troops to fight alongside the Nazis in World War II, AGAINST BRITAIN & THE US, and even SUGGESTING "The Final Solution" of the gas chambers to Hitler, and offering to help construct them !!! Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" is still a bestseller in Muslim countries, all of which you are well aware.

And we find, from other posters, that the real reason Muslims want to exterminate Jewish people is because Mo wanted them to accept him as The Messiah, and they flat out refused, putting him in such a conniption fit that he ordered his followers to keep killing Jews until there were NONE LEFT UPON THE EARTH . How about that for "Nazi doctrine"?

Radical Islam is Nazi doctrine. But to say that the Muslims suggested the holocaust is reaching. The Thule society and Himmler thought of that mass sacrifice before the events you describe even took place (this is a good example of true black magic). From a religious stand point the Nazi's disliked Islam, but they dealt with them because they were powerful, rich and disliked capitalism.

Listen...I don't want to fight with you anymore. We are all in the same boat of life. We are brothers and sisters all of whom are one with God. I apologize for calling your ideology Nazism (my "explosive ego" sometimes gets the best of me), from what you state in your last post it does not seem like you are advocating for the Muslim peoples annihilation. You are concerned for the safety of yourself, your family , and your country. I can respect this. But many people today use the veil of anti-Islam to promote bigotry and racism, so you cannot blame me for being skeptical about certain peoples motives. Its like the "white pride" movement, who claim they are not racists but have people like David Duke and other white supremacists who were very active in the KKK.

If the day comes when Islam is like Nazi Germany and stands united (which is presently does not) in radical ideology. Then I will fight against it. But until that day comes, I will hope and pray for Peace, Love, Tolerance, and Compassion.

The spilling of blood has corrupted us, it is a dark meme. I cannot accept any form of violence and I adhere to the principle of "all war is sin". Go with God my friend and have hope for compassion.

Originally posted by Tib50

Originally posted by SaturnFX


Wait, why would you say socialism wouldn't work, then start talking about communism as to why it wont work...

its like me saying I don't think the republic will work, so I start pointing out flaws of a monarchy..
its two completely seperate systems..matter of fact, socialist countries tend to fiercely hate communist countrys...

Disasternaut is quite right to follow his natural instincts about socialism and communism, and I hope he will not be hornswoggled by the smooth, slick arguments of this Saturnine member of the Unholy Muslim/Marxist Allliance, recommended by Vladimir Lenin himself as a good way to destroy western civilization !!!

If you say so...so capitalism is corporatism, which is facism then...fine, if one step = 100 miles, then its all the same...never talk about face value, just leap right towards the most fanatical end..that sounds reasonable
(btw, thats sarcasm...thats totally unreasonable..like a person experiencing their first kiss does not make them a prostitute...mega epic leaps in nonsense to go from a "start" to the extreme end..

But meh, thats how its typically programmed into people...always think radically.

Disasternaut is also right to equate socialism with communism, as Lenin himself said:

"The goal of socialism is communism".

And the final result of capitalism is imperialism...again, are we going for reality, or are we going for phrases? Socialism is ultimately all over the world except for in a few places (such as, oh...Somolia). degrees of socialism is required in society to maintain stability. The arguing point is to what degree...what should be the measure of socialist programs, and what should be left to capitalist tendencies...not a "should we allow any socialism at all in the country". Thats nonsense talk and being totally disingenuious. We like a bit of socialism, everyone does...it cuts down on the crime rate, allows for a moderate chance at making something decent with your life verses just a slave, etc.

If western civilization can be represented by an apple, Socialism is the sneaking way a worm eats an apple from within, while Communism is someone chopping the apple up with an axe. Either way, the apple gets it.

Western civilization currently is more like an axe that chops the apple tree down to take all the apples off the tree in one load due to greed.
Socialism is the grove tender trying to stop the person from chopping the tree down.

I like this example better:
Socialism is 3 apples you picked, you give one apple to your friend and you eat two apples
Communism is splitting an apple and giving your friend 1.5 apples
Capitalism is loaning your friend an apple, then demanding he give back two
Fiat economy...hooray...sadly, there is only three apples, so your friend can not actually pay back the extra apple...which means he must borrow another apple to pay back the interest, and then everything crashes, fights break out.

As you can see, neither of the above examples is a good system...communism is the worst of the three because it simply won't work...the old argument of "why do work just to provide for the lazy" debate is relevant...but socialism mixed with capitalism is so far the best method.

A socialism works...its in place already in areas that are the most educated, healthy, and cultured on earth...the happiest places on earth if you read the reports. (check denmark, sweden, etc)

This is laughable. Please DO check Denmark, Sweden and Formerly Great Britain to see how the FabianSocialists/Marxists have tried to destroy their economies and the ethnic and cultural identity of the Danes, Swedes and British by flooding them with immigrants, in particular, Muslims, because they are the Marxist's special allies.

ok, lets look at denmark:
Denmark has socialist welfare reforms such as a free school system, free medical care, income support and unemployment benefits.
Here is some studies that factor in a number of thing
Happiest place on earth
www2.le.ac.uk...

Denmark is number 1 (ahd has been there for quite sometime)
incidently, the states is 23.
Look at the list, find out how they came to the results...then get back with me.

Final add...northern eurpoean countries are not full socialism...its a socio-capitalist setup...compared to us, they are total socialism, compared to pure socialism, they are capitalists...its actually a exceptionally well working hybrid

And if you want to see what Full Socialism looks like, please read George Orwell's "1984", "Animal Farm", and Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World".

Brave new world was ultimately nonsense. it is a very old school take on a technocracy that for some strange reason never factored in resource enhancements...like somehow science just stopped and so they had to take hard measures to ensure happy and healthy lives mixed with the need to balance resources and growth.
aka, nonsense...nice fiction, bit dated now, but still worth the read if you enjoy dystopian future senarios built on silliness.
I would find the terminator more plausable for dystopia

Animal farm is about totalitarian communism, not socio-capitalism. doesn't apply.

Notice how I left out the references to muslims...because that argument is a glenn beck fantasy that I won't even bother addressing. Just to say...there is no socialist middle eastern country I know of (not sure what every single state is mind you, but the major ones are imperial monarchys, dictatorships, etc...frankly, if it was a socialism, things might be a bit equal and people less likely to go radical...

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Conceptually, no problem if they actually attempt to sacrifice someone, then there is a problem

Come on! You think they are going to put up posters or something.

"Human Sacrifice Friday night at the temple, food an beverages will be available for purchase. Raffle for rare Obsidian sword".

People just start disappearing at even intervals before religious ceremonies.

Christ was a martyr, he sacrificed himself, big difference from being captured and beheaded, or raped or both, against your will. How do you not see the difference?

Ahh, so let me get this straight
Your in favor of banning a group because they -might- do something criminal...not as a religious ceremony, but someone from their flock may do something illegal.
Gotcha.
So, can we close down every single group, organization, religion, club, and social event because someone might hear a message and go kill someone?

And guess what they call their fallen in battle...martyr's...go figure.

What your arguing is crimes...are you saying a christian has never killed, raped, etc etc etc...are you saying there is never religious fanatics due to christian teaching?

When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God.

Yep, no slavery, murder, etc there...

Face it...religious wackjobs want us to amend the constitution because some other religious wackjobs are growing in number and it is unnerving them...after all, religion is great...so long as its your religion...

And now you see one of the many reasons I am ever so happy I am atheist...its the unicorn worshippers saying the leprecaun worshippers are delusional and must be stopped.

Anyhow, it was a fun debate, wasn't it? I enjoyed myself. pretty simple debate really..no matter what you feel about it (or what I feel about it), people have a right to whatever religion they want.

Incidently, I was never satanic, however I knew several whom were part of the church of satan...the amusing part about that is, people scream to high heaven that they are evil, need to be outlawed, etc etc etc...but from someone whom actually knows, its all nonsense...no human sacrificing, nothing illegal...most of it is just parody actually, yet, the fundys have been, for quite a long time now, been screaming for the bannation of them from the land.
Nope...sorry...religion is religion, like it or not.

Cain said his view doesn't amount to religious discrimination because he says Muslims are trying to inject Shariah law into the U.S.

And there goes his credibility.

Running for US president...

I guess he got tired quick.

Originally posted by Tib50

Originally posted by Annee
This fear based hatred - - is becoming increasingly annoying.

Yes, it IS annoying, ain't it? Just when the New World Order has everyone lulled into fatal, passive acceptance of their own destruction, some annoying folks just WILL keep using their annoying rights of Freedom of Speech to wake people up.

Oh here is that new world order crap again.

Might as well toss in reptilians, nibiru, and demons while your at it to bring up the thread to its full potential of nonsense.

Why not stick to the subject

Here, watch this, watch how I can attach anything I don't like with "NWO" nonsense:


the NWO is trying to make western religions clash to push for perpetual war and a final full scale war on islam. This will make the oil resources spike beyond any comprehensible understanding. The fallout of this will be a full nuclear exchange for resources, in which the anglo-saxon mission talked about in london in 2010 finally come forth. The population will be reduced after this war to the proper amount, and full control will finally be established.

All this because they planted fear of a religion in the west...making them rip apart their constitution

See...I just totally made a far more plausable NWO senario, making you the full tool of "them"
Hell, I can even back up what I said...check this out:


Incidently, what makes you think you have any clue what the "NWO" is doing? You hear it from mainstream media? guess what...

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

I think you have answered your own question.

Yes, we have laws that restrict the actions of organized religion, with Islam, we need more laws to eliminate the nefarious ways Islam goes about establishing itself politically.

While Islam identifies itself as a religion, to me, it is every bit as bigoted as Nazism, and deserves no more respect.

As soon as we pass laws eradicating political Christianity from our shores, followed by political Judaism, then we can worry about political Islam. Address the danger in order of threat value to the nation.

Now, I understand you dislike frothing political Islam being yelped from the pulpit (or whatever) by 10% of America's tiny Muslim Imam population. I get that.

I dislike Dominionist bigots like Herman Cain having a shot at becoming president. I have a great dislike for murderous zionists such as Chuck Schumer sitting in legislative office. I think that even your rattling little white supremacist brain can figure that a presidential candidate and a sitting member of Congress who both bring htier violent, conquering religious views to the table are a bigger religious-political threat than some wall-eyed bastard preaching out of an east-facing double-wide.

reply to post by Openeye


Taqiyya. All your posts are "taqiyya".
Start packing.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

And now you see one of the many reasons I am ever so happy I am atheist...

Incidently, I was never satanic, however I knew several whom were part of the church of satan...the amusing part about that is, people scream to high heaven that they are evil, need to be outlawed, etc etc etc...but from someone whom actually knows, its all nonsense...no human sacrificing, nothing illegal...most of it is just parody actually, yet, the fundys have been, for quite a long time now, been screaming for the bannation of them from the land.
Nope...sorry...religion is religion, like it or not.

So you were "just atheist", "never satanic", eh? But had lots of satanic friends?

Why is it, I wonder, that "atheists" rarely attack any other religion but Christianity?

And why is it, as Lynn Marzulli pointed out (though I don't agree with his apocalyptic views), that all the "Messages from Pleidians", all the messages and contacts with "aliens", always target Christianity, in more or less veiled ways?

What is it about Christianity that drives aliens, atheists and satanists into a frenzy?

Maybe because it is real. And Jesus Christ Our Lord and Saviour is real. And Our Heavenly Father is real.

That's why.