Please explain? ANTARCTICA JULY 14th 2011

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

It's the moon.
Neumayer station is roughly 70.6 deg S, and 8.5 deg W.

Plug those coordinates into Stellarium and look south.

we have a full moon but thanks for the disinfo.

Originally posted by MasterAndrew

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

It's the moon.
Neumayer station is roughly 70.6 deg S, and 8.5 deg W.

Plug those coordinates into Stellarium and look south.

we have a full moon but thanks for the disinfo.

Where are you?

You do realise moon phases differ for different locations on Earth dont you?

The sun behind a full moon??

Originally posted by OzWeatherman


Where are you?

You do realise moon phases differ for different locations on Earth dont you?

Explain to me how a full moon can be seen yet this is claimed to be the moon? Doesn't the earth have to be inbetween the moon and the sun not the other way round. Clearly he would be saying from this pic that the moon is inbetween the earth and the sun. I don't know how does a full moon work?

reply to post by MasterAndrew


Excuse me? disinfo?

What does you seeing a full moon now have to do with the position of the moon at the Antarctic yesterday???

You make no sense and you're calling me disinfo, how stupid.

phases of the moon will appear as mirror reflections of each other between hemispheres.

the intensity of the phase will be constant, however.

Pretty pictures here:
www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk...

A full moon would appear the same, however.

So first bright object is a full moon, correct? Second object, don't know yet. Guys in space suits? DOn't think it's radiation suits otherwise wouldn't the guy in the black coat giving directions need one too?

Still think it's strange that the camera caught the men in suits pointing. Do you really think they would point to simple objects that they expect to see in the sky everyday down there?

Originally posted by MasterAndrew

Originally posted by OzWeatherman


Where are you?

You do realise moon phases differ for different locations on Earth dont you?

Explain to me how a full moon can be seen yet this is claimed to be the moon? Doesn't the earth have to be inbetween the moon and the sun not the other way round. Clearly he would be saying from this pic that the moon is inbetween the earth and the sun. I don't know how does a full moon work?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a7c80c4668eb.jpg[/atsimg]

Has anyone here noticed the sun rising and setting under the Neumayer station, rising at 1:25 in the video and setting at 3:00, remaining very low on the horizon as would be expected in Antarctica? If that's not the sun, then what is it? Appears to me, to be in the perfect place to light up the lower right hand portion of the moon as well. Of course, some keep saying, "that's not the moon." Are you sure?

Could it be the moon that I see rising and setting under the station?

I still declare there is a full moon in the southern hemisphere. And if you seen the full moon like I did. There was no sun near it. So what gives??

Well upon further watching of the video cams:
www.awi.de...

the second object is clearly just a camera refection. You can watch the reflection move over the N. station and then into the sky behind.

I will assume the bright object is the moon.

So nothing exciting here but the men pointing in suits.

Originally posted by MasterAndrew
I still declare there is a full moon in the southern hemisphere. And if you seen the full moon like I did. There was no sun near it. So what gives??

Nobodies arguing that there is a full moon here.....because there is. What people are saying is that the first object is the moon, not the sun.....you are confusing yourself

The moon will rise in about an hour according to what Stellarium tells me.

15:15 GMT.

The live webcam updates every 10 minutes, will need to hit refresh.

www.awi.de...

I see now. I thought he was talking BS about the moon flare, (second object). I just want to know more about these suits. Damn.

reply to post by MasterAndrew


It's just a glare or something.. you can tell if you review the clip yourself... i dunno where you got the space suits from but it's not on the original... link is below:

www.awi.de...

start from around step 104 on and you can see that thing appear on the bldg itself before the sky

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
I can tell you that the object is most likely an ozone weather balloon. I work for the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, and we launch the same balloons from our three weather stations there. The reason I think it is an ozone balloon is that there is a reflection off the object and there is an instrument hanging off it.

It would move away from the frame extremely quickly due to the strength of the winds down there. I checked out the map of the station and the location of the webcam right of where the balloon filling shed is located, which would make sense considering the location of the object. I would assume the suits are protection from hydrogen which is what they use to fill the weather balloons down there, but to be honest, we dont actually wear that type of clothing when we fill ours manually.

Hope this helps a little

Oh, great! Here we go, again, with that 'weather balloon' crap!

Kidding - agreed.

What? It's the bloody moon.

This is ridiculous.

The guys in the suits have probably seen all the elenin youtube vids and may even browse ATS. I bet they said" lets put on the suits and go outside and point at the sky to see how many people will post it on youtube". I mean come on guys, you know its got to be boring as hell down there. They are probably playing with us.

This needs to investigated... I'm sure there's a lot going on considering the magnitude of land and no eyes..u would think however... They would close the link if " 4 their eyes only "

reply to post by OzWeatherman

Try again. Not the moon. Not a balloon.
If you check out these photos
www.youtube.com...
you will see the moon has already risen and moved off frame to the left
Examining the time stamps and ignoring the incorrect time lapses which for some reason have been written over the pictures, it can be seen they are 10 minutes apart.
I translated this into 2 1/2 degrees of the Earth's rotation
I counted the pixels between the edge of the object and the building in the first two photos which show the object and found a 31 pixel difference.
ergo...31 pixels= 2 1/2 degree.
I then did a pixel count of the same gap between the object and the building in all the pictures and found it to be accurate to a give or take of 1 pixel in all the photos.
Whatever the object is it is stationary in the sky.
It is not the sun. Other than during an eclipse the sun never produces a crescent. It is not the moon which has moved off frame to the left. It is not a balloon which could not possibly have remained stationary in the sky for the period of time shown by the time stamps. Nor could it be a balloon anchored to the ground or the distance between it and the building would remain constant.
I am not claiming it IS anything. I am just trying to eliminate a few possibilities.