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So, Abiogenesis is on the same level as gravity and air?
Originally posted by megabytz
Originally posted by addygrace
Originally posted by TheOneElectric
reply to post by addygrace
This is a troll thread right? Please tell me this is a troll thread?
The American government is not allowed to force any type of religion or spirituality upon Students.
Furthermore, accepted scientific theories are worked into the learning process, as they help students understand the basics of biology and chemistry, giving them further insight to the cycle of life and creation around them.
It'd be asinine to hear "God did it" in a science class. Seriously, go find a bridge to crawl under.
Would you say, it would be asinine to teach imaginative ideas that have not been observed in science class?
Not everything has to be directly observed in science.
Have you ever directly observed gravity?
What about air?
Have you ever directly observed DNA mutation?
I disagree with the air, if I see a bubble rising in water am I not directly seeing air. It is not solid, I can see what is on the other side, however I can still see it is there. therefor am I not "seeing" it
as for seeing the effects of gravity I agree, but is seeing the effects not clear evidence of it itself
Originally posted by addygrace
So, Abiogenesis is on the same level as gravity and air?
Originally posted by megabytz
Originally posted by addygrace
Originally posted by TheOneElectric
reply to post by addygrace
This is a troll thread right? Please tell me this is a troll thread?
The American government is not allowed to force any type of religion or spirituality upon Students.
Furthermore, accepted scientific theories are worked into the learning process, as they help students understand the basics of biology and chemistry, giving them further insight to the cycle of life and creation around them.
It'd be asinine to hear "God did it" in a science class. Seriously, go find a bridge to crawl under.
Would you say, it would be asinine to teach imaginative ideas that have not been observed in science class?
Not everything has to be directly observed in science.
Have you ever directly observed gravity?
What about air?
Have you ever directly observed DNA mutation?
Originally posted by Frontkjemper
reply to post by megabytz
The OP is discussing the origins of Earth, like the big bang. I'm not talking about evolution, troll harder next time.
Originally posted by addygrace
I am not talking about evolution. I'm talking about origins. Seriously this thread is getting into a subject, that I never even mentioned. What's with all the assumptions.
Ok. This has nothing to do with my OP.
Originally posted by GummBIt is absurd to think people are so brainwashed they ignore scientific and archeological evidence completely.
Are you sure about that? How about abiogenesis?
Originally posted by GummBReason # 1 : they teach them the facts we know, not the ones we made up
This may be a good approach, I don't know.
Originally posted by GummBReason # 2 : Its not ok to lie to children, it will warp their minds like it did yours
Originally posted by GummBIf you want to learn from the bible apply its lessons morally, thats where they count.
ps. kids do get taught this if their parents wish, there are such things as private schools, catholic schools, etc
Originally posted by addygrace
Just to add, the posts that I'm reading on here, prove a different point about people who believe in evoloution(at least the one's who replied), believe evolution to be an all consuming theory that covers origins. They do this with a dogmatic fervency, usually only attributed to the bible thumpers. Hypocrisy.
Originally posted by addygrace
Are you sure about that? How about abiogenesis?
Originally posted by GummBReason # 1 : they teach them the facts we know, not the ones we made up
I'm going to quote myself. I said, "Would you say, it would be asinine to teach imaginative ideas that have not been observed in science class?"
Originally posted by megabytzDid I say it was?
No i wasn't. I was speaking about people auomatically assuming the OP was about evolution, and how their dogmatic fervency could be compared to bible thumpers.
Originally posted by megabytzNow you understand that evolution isn't referring to the origins of life?
Your last post you were speaking of evolution.
abiogenesis is taught in schools.
Originally posted by megabytzAir isn't really a theory I was just using that as something that is not directly observed.
Yes evolution could be considered on the same 'level with gravity', even though they are two different fields of science.
Abiogenesis is a work in progress. There are a few different hypothesis.
Originally posted by Daughter2
it does seem they are teaching children to exclude all religious/spiritual explanations for life.
Why are kids taught in public schools to believe in next to impossible chance, rather than God?
So instead of teaching science, we should teach....imagination? God is just a cop out for science anyway, back in the day when we didn't even know that the earth was round we had to figure out a way to explain our existence and the creation of the universe, so some deity that just sharted out the universe one day was that cop-out. Now that we actually have a pretty detailed understanding of Astronomy and Physics, we know there's a lot more to the universe than God snapping his fingers, and creating Adam and Eve to inbreed humanity into mutated retardation. However some still chose to believe that flawed book, if you want to believe that some old dude put two of every species on the planet on a boat to survive a flood, you're more than Constitutionally welcome to. However pushing your fairy-tale beliefs onto others is crossing the line, especially because there is more than just your religion, so we would have to accomodate to suit everybodys beleifs and then it wouldn't be school, it would be Sunday school on steroids.
If it's just the observable that's being taught in the Science classes, then why even entertain any imaginative idea of origins?
Originally posted by megabytz
reply to post by addygrace
Please show one science textbook that teaches any of the hypothesis of abiogenesis as fact.
Originally posted by addygrace
I am not talking about evolution. I'm talking about origins. Seriously this thread is getting into a subject, that I never even mentioned. What's with all the assumptions.
Originally posted by Daughter2
While I don't think schools should teach a specific religion, it does seem they are teaching children to exclude all religious/spiritual explanations for life.