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Bizarre Twist- Knights Templar Cartel Attacks Local Police Station (Graphic)

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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Bizarre Twist- Knights Templar Cartel Attacks Local Police Station (Graphic)


www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com

This weekend there was intense fighting in La Piedad, Michoacán. In a bazaar twist, members of the Knights Templar, the drug cartel actually attacked the offices of the Federal Police in the town. The bloody scene of the battle can be seen in the photographs below.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Could there be more to this? If the US DEA and ATF are complicit in arming the Zetas, and US AG Holder was aware of the recent "fast and furious" operation by the FBI, ATF, DEA and others, could these "Knights Templar" truly be fighting to preserve liberty and protect the interests of those threatened by the Zetas?

We know that some of the Zetas have been trained at Ft. Benning. We have been told that they "went rogue" and defected to the side of the cartels instead of fighting the good fight for liberty. But where is the truth these days?

Could the Zetas be yet another false flag? Could they indeed still be on the payroll of the USG?. If we are to believe the biased US media, the US is never on the side of evil, but as more info comes to light exposing the dark underbelly of criminal activity running to the highest levels of our government, who knows what to believe?

www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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I just wonder why in the article they used "bazaar" instead of ''bizarre"?

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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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How in the heck did the Knights Templar get tied to the drug cartel? That is a graphic image!



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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That guys bullet proof vest sure didn’t help. That is gross, his brains are all over the place. It didn’t say if he was a cop. All over drugs! Money!



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:23 PM
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This story sounds suspicious to me.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by wonderworld
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How in the heck did the Knights Templar get tied to the drug cartel? That is a graphic image!


"La Familia Michoacana" renamed themselves the "Knights Templar". There is speculation in the media that it was done because the Templars were the most vicious warriors in the crusades. I personally feel that for the cartel to make such a bold statement, there was far more to the name change than emulating viscous warriors,
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Shocking news, all for the new generation crusades. But mixing it with drugs, naming your cartel after it is disgusting.

Either god strike them down or may a true knight do the job.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by NightGypsy
This story sounds suspicious to me.


Indeed it does. here is the youtube video and the translated transcript from the Intel Hub of the interrogation of captured Zeta 7 Jesús Enrique Rejón Aguilar, aka El Mamito:





Interrogator: What is your name?
Rejón Aguilar: Jesús Enrique Rejón Aguilar, aka El Mamito o El Caballero.
Interrogator: What is your date of birth, where are you from and how old are you?
Rejón Aguilar: June 9th, 1976. I’m 35 years old, and I’m from Sabancuy, Campeche.
Interrogator: What do you do for a living?
Rejón Aguilar: Drug trafficking.
Interrogator: For which organization?
Rejón Aguilar: Los Zetas.
Interrogator: How did you join this organization, and when?
Rejón Aguilar: After I deserted from the army, in 1999, I went to Reynosa and I met (Arturo Guzman) Decena, aka. Zeta 1.
Interrogator: Who created Los Zetas?
Rejón Aguilar: It was Osiel (Cardenas), through Zeta 1.
Interrogator: When they were originally created, how many members were there?
Rejón Aguilar: At first we were seven. Then they brought seven more and added to the original fourteen members. Interrogator: Were you one of the founders?
Rejón Aguilar: Yes.
Interrogator: Which (rank) number were you?
Rejón Aguilar: Zeta 7.
Interrogator: What happened after Osiel was captured?
Rejón Aguilar: When Osiel was captured, what happened later was that Jorge Costilla Sanchez took control of the organization.
Interrogator: What happened when Los Zetas separated from the Gulf Drug cartel?
Rejón Aguilar: They (the Gulf Cartel) began to do business with La Familia Michoacana, El Mayo Zambada (member of the Sinaloa Cartel, who’s son, Vicente Zambada is a DEA operative, according to court documents from his trial in Chicago), with el Chapo Guzman (leader of the Sinaloa Cartel), and people from Jalisco. They created their alliance, and when we broke away, they were already organized and began to kill our people. That’s when the organization was split in two: Los Zetas and the Gulf Cartel.
Interrogator: And this is when the separation began between Gulf and Zetas?
Rejón Aguilar: That’s when the separation began.
Interrogator: Are you basically at war with everyone?
Rejón Aguilar: They, the Gulf, created an alliance, and we’re at war with El Mayo, El Chapo, La Familia Michoana, and Jalisco. We’re at war with all of them.
Interrogator: And you know La Familia is from Michoacan, El Chango Mendez (leader of La Familia who was discovered to be distributing weapons purchased from the U.S. BATF) went to Aguascalientes to dialog with Los Zetas, was he asking you for protection?
Rejón Aguilar: He was trying to reach out to us.
Interrogator: Why?
Rejón Aguilar: To dialog because they killed all his people and he wanted our support.
Interrogator: Would that have been possible?
Rejón Aguilar: In my opinion, who ever betrays you once, can betray you again, so it wouldn’t have been a good idea. But I don’t know what the commanders would think about that.
Interrogator: And La Tuta (member of La Familia and founder of the Knights Templar)? Is there a relation between him and Los Zetas?
Rejón Aguilar: No. His organization is with the Gulf, so he’s our enemy.
Interrogator: That relationship between La Tuta, La Familia Michoacana and the Knights Templar with the Gulf makes them your enemies?
Rejón Aguilar: Yes, because they’re killing our people and we’re trying to stop them.
Interrogator: With respect to the relationship between Arturo Beltran (former partner of DEA Operative Edgar ‘Barbie’ Valdez who was betrayed and killed by the military) and La Familia, then Beltran falls, then el Chayo falls, later el Chango, what do you think happened in Michoacan?
Rejón Aguilar: Michoacan collapsed because in essence, they didn’t keep their word. There was never a deal reached with them. In fact, when Arturo went down, there was a cease-fire, but they (La Familia) broke it, and they went to war against Arturo and sought refuge with el Valencia.
Interrogator: So after that, everyone started to break away and work for themselves?
Rejón Aguilar: Yes. That’s when the war started. By that time, we were already working for ourselves.
Interrogator: How did you all begin to work independently?
Rejón Aguilar: Since we no longer had ties with anybody, we began to bring the material (the drugs) ourselves. Interrogator: How do you obtain the drugs? Which Colombian cartel do you work with?
Rejón Aguilar: I do not know. That’s handled by different personnel. But it has always been brought through Guatemala because the Colombians are not trustworthy.
Interrogator: They bring it from somewhere else?
Rejón Aguilar: From Guatemala. It can be bought from Colombia, Panama, or Guatemala. We buy it from Guatemala.
Interrogator: And where do you get your weapons?
Rejón Aguilar: From the United States. All weapons come from the U.S.
Interrogator: How are they brought here?
Rejón Aguilar: Crossing the river. We used to bring them through the bridge, but it’s become harder to do that. Interrogator: Who purchases the weapons?
Rejón Aguilar: They are bought in the U.S. The buyers (on the U.S. side of the border) have said in the past that sometimes they would acquire them from the U.S. Government itself.
Interrogator: And nowadays, who distribute them to you?
Rejón Aguilar: It’s more difficult for us to acquire weapons nowadays, but we find ways. But it’s easier for the Gulf Cartel to bring them across the border.
Interrogator: Why?
Rejón Aguilar: We don’t know why, but they bring them (accross the bridge) in the trunk of their cars without being checked (by Mexican Customs). One can only think that they must have reached a deal with the (Mexican) government.
Interrogator: How often are they smuggled?
Rejón Aguilar: Today it’s more difficult so it’s more sporadic, like every month, every 20 days, or every month and a half. It’s done when ever there’s an opportunity.
Interrogator: And the drugs?
Rejón Aguilar: The drugs are handled by a group of accountants. They handle that in private. It’s compartmentalized. Only they know how and when it’s smuggled to the United States. I suppose, with the way that things are right now, they probably smuggle the drug shipments every two or three months.
Interrogator: How are the drug shipments smuggled to the U.S.?
Rejón Aguilar: They bring it to the U.S. through Laredo, but that’s done by a compartmentalized group handled by the accountants. They are responsible for all that.
Interrogator: Let’s talk about San Luis Potosi, do you remember the attack on the U.S. ICE agents?
Rejón Aguilar: Yes. They (Los Zetas) were travelling in a caravan of bullet-proof vehicles. They mistook them for other people and cut them off.
Interrogator: What’s happening in Tamaulipas?
Rejón Aguilar: In Tamaulipas, there’s a war because of the separation of the cartels. But we’re on hold because there is too much government (troops) presence.
Interrogator: Tell me about the armored (monster) vehicles. How were they made? How many of these vehicles were under your command?
Rejón Aguilar: Three… five at one time.
Interrogator: And out of these five vehicles, what type were they?
Rejón Aguilar: They were armored trucks typically known as monsters.
Interrogator: Were you ever prepared for being captured?
Rejón Aguilar: One always knows that sooner or later, we will be captured.
Interrogator: Is there someone you would like to ask for forgiveness?
Rejón Aguilar: Like how?
Interrogator: Yes. Like for your actions, or for disappointing somebody, like your children or your family?
Rejón Aguilar: Yes. To my mother, because since all of this happened, I haven’t seen her for 17 years.
Interrogator: And knowing that you haven’t seen your mother and she’s still alive, how do you feel?
Rejón Aguilar: Well, it’s hard. It’s cruel but oh well…



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Wolvo
Shocking news, all for the new generation crusades. But mixing it with drugs, naming your cartel after it is disgusting.

Either god strike them down or may a true knight do the job.


What if they are true knights? What if they are fighting the good fight and the corruption and crime of the Zetas has taken over the Mexican police ?

The interview states that the Zetas get firepower from the US government, and more evidence is coming to light daily about the US involvement, and we KNOW that the original Zetas were Mexican special forces trained at Ft. Benning, we KNOW the US has been supplying them, and we KNOW that the Knights Templar "cartel" (and i use that term delicately) are the sworn enemies of the Zetas...



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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I can't help but wonder, was this just a show? I don't mean to discredit or disrespect the dead but the numbers seem strange to me.


The cartel gunmen approached in 50 trucks


at least 30 officers of the Federal Police were sleeping


That's at least 80 combatants.


burst into the police building, this generated an intense shootout and grenade


On the site authorities have found over five thousand rounds of ammunition casings. The station was practically destroyed


Yet...


three Knights Templar Members were killed


seven officers of the Federal Police were also killed and three others were wounded.


So, the 50 trucks of Knights Templar, most likely more people than 1 person per, went into the building and opened fire on 30 half asleep, freshly woken men, and exchanged over 5,000 rounds and at least 1 grenade, destroying the building, and there were only 10 deaths and 3 wounded(wounded count on the Knights Templar side not given).

It seems to me that even untrained people would have higher statistics than this. What really went on?



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by wonderworld
That guys bullet proof vest sure didn’t help. That is gross, his brains are all over the place. It didn’t say if he was a cop. All over drugs! Money!


I believe that the photos show the Templar members that did not survive the raid.

And drugs and money have been CIA staples for a long time...

Methamphetamine=Mexico
Cocaine=Columbia
Opium/Heroin=Afghanistan



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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So, the 50 trucks of Knights Templar, most likely more people than 1 person per, went into the building and opened fire on 30 half asleep, freshly woken men, and exchanged over 5,000 rounds and at least 1 grenade, destroying the building, and there were only 10 deaths and 3 wounded(wounded count on the Knights Templar side not given). It seems to me that even untrained people would have higher statistics than this. What really went on?


Its obvious that there is more to this, but it seems to me like this is a hit-piece on the "Knights Templar" and an attempt to down play some serious corruption being handed a (if you will excuse the pun) a "come-to-Jesus" ultimatum by some that "had enough"

If this were to happen in the US, hypothetically of course, say... in Quartzside Az, the "Nazi" police were overthrown by a small group (10 or so) of committed patriots, calling themselves Knights Templar...How would that be reported?

500 terrorist operatives descend on sleeping local police and caused havoc...


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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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NARCO BLOG: Mexican Drug Cartel Attempts to Rebrands itself by Changing Name to “Knights Templar”
from narco blog...

A few hours ago many new banners began appearing throughout various parts of Michoacán and Morelia, Apatzingan, Lazaro Cardenas, Among Others, and in Communities Such As Mira Tenure, Acalpican of Morelos, and Possession of Macaws.

The narcobanners were signed by a new group called the Knights Templar. Fliers were also handed out introducing the new group. The narco banners read: “Our commitment with society will be the: safeguarding of order, preventing robberies, kidnappings and extortions and to shield the state from rival organizations,” the banners stated.


This alleged "cartel" seems to be publicly standing up in defense of the state against the cartels with known ties to the US and the DEA, rather than being the demons the media reports.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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La Tuta (member of La Familia and founder of the Knights Templar) has no association with Los Zetas, by the testimony of the interrogation. In fact, Rejón Aguilar explicitly states that The Knights Templar organization is their enemy.


Interrogator: That relationship between Arturo Beltran (former partner of DEA Operative Edgar ‘Barbie’ Valdez who was betrayed and killed by the military) and La Tuta...makes them your enemies?

Rejón Aguilar: Yes, because they’re killing our people and we’re trying to stop them.


Vicente Zambada, son of El Mayo Zambada of the Sinaloa Cartel is a DEA operative, according to court documents from his trial in Chicago

El Chango Mendez the leader of La Familia (who was discovered to be distributing weapons purchased from the U.S. BATF) went to Aguascalientes to ask Los Zetas for protection but was turned down


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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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I think the Sinaloa Cartel is the one with the most goverment people involved.
Though the corruption goes deep into the military and the police.
There were hit men serving jail time that the guards were letting out at noight to do hits.
They even lent them their guns.....
The hit men had perfect alibis too.....back in prison before bed check.....



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Indeed. I still think it is entirely possible that the Knights Templar are resisting the Zetas and Sinaolas play to take over the country covertly...and being demonized for the resistance..



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by Lono1
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Indeed. I still think it is entirely possible that the Knights Templar are resisting the Zetas and Sinaolas play to take over the country covertly...and being demonized for the resistance..



Confusing isn't it? And the only thing you know for sure is that all is not as advertized. Some of the same events have been blamed on different factions at different times. Many times it was the police or other "good guys" that were the culprits.

Yeah, we've had some excitement around here recently.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Confusing isn't it? And the only thing you know for sure is that all is not as advertized. Some of the same events have been blamed on different factions at different times. Many times it was the police or other "good guys" that were the culprits.

Yeah, we've had some excitement around here recently.


I was hoping you would chime in. Do you have any more insight to share on the "Knights Templar"? Have you personally seen any of these banners?

With the deepening BATF weapons controversy "fast and furious" is starting to sound more like a black op that went white than a failed operation. Sounds a lot like the US invading Mexico to monopolize the drug trade....



posted on Jul, 13 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Lono1

Do you have any more insight to share on the "Knights Templar"? Have you personally seen any of these banners?


Los Caballeros Templarios first cropped-up here in March saying they were replacing La Familia. Being one that follows news and alternative news I was one of the first to hear about them, ahead of any Mexican friends or neighbors. Not much was said in the local news leading me to believe they were not just a propaganda tool. They were formed from La Familia members. No one I know knows anything about their inner politics - and I know a few people who usually know things. It is only speculation whether they splintered away from La Familia but many suggest they are still one in the same and only want to give the impression there was was internal strife and are fighting each other.

I've only seen photos of their "mantas" which are taken down by the authorities as soon as they are discovered. Typically the media plays-down any of the events unless it is too big to ignore. I am suspicious about anything that gets a little "too much" news coverage. The media basically knows nothing and are always contradicting themselves. The official stories seem to have as many versions as the times they are told.

It is virtually impossible to tell who is a good guy or bad, many of the people wearing badges are both and even the "bad guys" appear to do good deeds. Police seldom catch kidnappers or robbers but the "cartels" find them. Impossible to know if the bodies found that have been tagged as kidnappers, etc., are as they say or even who is killing them for certain as it is not uncommon to frame another faction.

One major incident, the grenade bombing in downtown Morelia in Sep. 2008, shook the country and really kicked the Drug War into high gear. The media has blamed different cartels but the type of incident, one involving innocent bystanders, is uncharacteristic of cartel activity. Indeed as this incident was being pursued it brought some upper police officials into question and was hushed-up. Since then nothing seems to get probed very deeply. Many think it was a stunt to get public acceptance for the Drug War.

There is more underlying factors going on than are being explained. There should be a "cooling-off" for the upcoming election year but all hell has been breaking loose this past month.


With the deepening BATF weapons controversy "fast and furious" is starting to sound more like a black op that went white than a failed operation. Sounds a lot like the US invading Mexico to monopolize the drug trade....


The US is here with alphabet agencies and special forces to oversee the War effort. A couple incidents seem to have exposed US involvement in the movement of drugs, and of course the Fast and Furious scandal.

Those who are fighting the Drug War the hardest are obviously the ones that have the most at stake, otherwise everyone knows it is a bad policy with disastrous consequences. The US are globally the biggest and most enthusiastic supporters of the Drug War. Little doubt left they intend to continue monopolizing the drug trade globally.

The "poor judgement" excuse for Fast and Furious is just too lame to be believed. A very poor whitewashing job to cover-up a much larger and more nefarious agenda.

Adequate measures were not taken to restrain the greed factor and now the Drug War is coming unravelled. Many former altruistic supporters of it are beginning to see the truth behind it. If 2012 is supposed to be "the end of the world as we know it" it would appear the Drug War agenda is what is taking us there. The drug trade has been a means of extracting "taxes" that help support a failing global economy, or failing economic leaders. Just my opinion.


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