We are living in BIZZARO world..

reply to post by FoxStriker


I think most people don't even know what they truly believe anymore. They are so brainwashed into what they should believe, what is right for them and their family, and who the enemy really is. People have given up THINKING. Not only for themselves, but before they speak, before they support something, and before the act. Everything is a knee-jerk reaction that stems from the conditioning they receive through the television and talk-radio.

Who needs to think when someone else will just tell you how you should do it?

reply to post by nunya13




Your thoughts are echoed by the many with common sense. Most people simply conform with a certain mentality that another person dreamed up. While it is possible for someone to come to their own conclusion within the status quo, it generally is based on deceptive information. They are really misled.

reply to post by Tayesin

Well I just want to thank my lucky stars that there are people who, by butting into other people's affairs, are saving civilization. Telling a 15 year old that cussing and self-respect are mutually exclusive is exactly the sort of job we need to do to save.... blah blah blah blah blah

Now who will save us from the Know-It-All-Buttinskies?

reply to post by lunatux


I was actually referring to this thread in which the question was asked "What is going on with Black Teens?"

ATS Thread

reply to post by nunya13


What if there is no enemy? Then what?

This is a test,this is only a test to see if your brain is still functioning.If you can read this message,you are still functioning.If the words lookkkk sssorrrt offff blurrry,youu arre livvingg inna bizzzarro parralllel unniverrssse.

Originally posted by nunya13
in Bizzaro America, you can see a group of black kids that robbed a store and insist it had something to do with the fact that they were black and get bent out of shape when you are called a racist. Then, somehow, YOU'RE the racist because you called them out on their racism.

I can't edit my original post so I have quoted it in its entirety in the hopes that I can clarify something. It seems that some people have misconstrued my statement. My point of this statement is that people are being attacked for calling out against racism and are now being called the racists.

This particular statement was in reference to a thread in which the OP pointed out how a group of black teens entered a store and performed a "flash mob" robberies. He implied it had something to do with their race simply because all of them were black and asked "What is going on with black teens". If there were a white kid among them, to paraphrase, he would "take it back". People said this was racist. He said it wasn't. However, I pointed out that the question, "What is going on with white teens?" would never have been asked if they were, in fact, all white kids.

As for personal experience, for example, I was chastised by a friend who, as a family of unknown ethnicity but non-white passed by us, was making racial slurs under his breath and asking if his dog wanted any "dark meat". I was so bothered and upset that I spoke up. Everyone looked at me like I was a killjoy and gave me the cold shoulder. The people I spend time with are increasingly making racial comments every single time they see a non-white person and it REALLY bothers me, but I am the bad guy whenever I speak up and so, I don't anymore. But it hurts inside when I am at the bowling alley and a person I am with is making racial jokes about the Hispanic KIDS under 10 years-old next to us. People are being desensitized to racism to the point that they don't even think they are being racist and justify it as "just making ironic jokes". It's sickening, and in Bizzaro America, I am the douchebag for calling people out on this crap.

reply to post by brindle


Therearen't any enemies, technically. Not people anyway. The real enemies are abstract concepts.

Greed
Fear
Corruption
Anger
Hate
Apathy
Irrationality

These are what make people act against their better judgement. I believe that most people get corrupted by these enemies and are then seen as enemies themselves. The Rothschild's aren't the enemies, their greed is. Halliburton isn't the enemy, their corruption is. Republican/Democrats aren't the enemy. Their fear is. You can't defeat a personified enemy until you defeat what ails them.

These enemies sway people to make decisions that either go against their self interest or hurt others. However, by naming a specific enemy to fight against, we can project our own shortcomings onto others. Then, we don't have to see what it is about ourselves that makes these injustices happen.

This is all opinion, of course.

reply to post by nunya13


Thank you for sourcing.

You are aware, are you not, that most urban centers of African American populations lack the number and variety of stores that people who live in predominantly white areas take for granted? Indeed, most of the stores that sell necessities all people need simply aren't found in African Americans communities. Since many of the African Americans who live in these communities lack personal transportation, they have to journey for up to three hours one way on public transportation just to get to a store....

And I suppose you are aware that a noncriminal black shopper walking around in a store is at least three times more likely to be under active security observation/suspicion than a white person. Why is that I wonder?

Now maybe these "mobbing theft" stories are about a new way to commit crimes signalling the BIZARRO end of civilization as we know it. Or maybe they are about something else. When forty people band together to publicly and openly do something, whatever else may be going on, it has about it the aspect of a message. Maybe the message is: PUT STORES IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE WON'T BOTHER WITH YOURS!!

Oh by the way I'm white and male and just sayin....

How about this in the bizzaro world.

Cisco Systems plans to lay off 10,000 workers in August it was just reported.

The reason why Cisco Systems is doing this is because of their incompetent management decisions, largely due to John Chambers mistake after mistakes. Their stock is one of the worst DOW performers in the past 10 years. They have outsourced thousands of jobs over the past 10 years to China, India and Ireland, meanwhile hiring H-1B visa workers in the states from foreign countries.

Yet, he will still continue to be the CEO, while 10,000 employees get shafted. The board will never get rid of Chambers but if they do, they would say, here is your $50 million check, thanks for your efforts.

Meanwhile, Cisco Systems "legally" (cough cough) has billions of dollars of their money stored in Swiss bank accounts, thus allowing them not to pay U.S. corporate taxes. And on top of that, Republican John Chambers is begging Congress to pay a tax holiday that will give them a tax break even more. LOL

Biggest Tax Avoiders Win Most Gaming $1 Trillion U.S. Tax Break

Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO) has cut its income taxes by $7 billion since 2005 by booking roughly half its worldwide profits at a subsidiary at the foot of the Swiss Alps that employs about 100 people.

Now Cisco, the largest maker of networking equipment, wants to save even more -- by asking Congress to waive most federal taxes due when multinationals bring such offshore earnings home. Chief Executive Officer John T. Chambers has led the charge for the tax holiday, which would be the second since 2004. He says it would encourage companies to “repatriate” as much as $1 trillion held abroad, spur domestic investment and create jobs."

www.bloomberg.com...

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
It will be painful, but complete economic collapse and government default could be the best that we could hope to have happen here.

Either way, recovery is going to be decades long, and tragically painful.

I think the inevitable collapse in America is absolutely the worst-case scenario, but at this point it's unavoidable. All this talk about raising the debt ceiling is academic, if we don't raise it we'll default sooner, if we do raise it we'll default later. Either way a default is in our future, and a total economic collapse will follow. I don't think "recovery" is the right word per se though, because it implies we'll get "back to normal" at some point. Personally I think the current way of life will disappear forever, post-collapse America will be a much different place. No more social security, no more welfare, no more free health care, no more giant houses with enormous mortgages, no more gas-guzzling SUVs for our hour-long work commutes, etc. We'll survive, but life will be much different.

I personally have come to believe that its the idea of "the way things should be" that leaves many people with a mind closed to the options available to find solutions.(thats not to say solutions are easy to find or guaranteed to work, only that not as many minds are working on the issues.)
We seem to spend more time focusing on how things should work as opposed to accepting the reality of how things are and working with what we have to change it.
I believe that there really is not a way that things are supposed to be and that no matter how things are continual change or tweaking if you will should be present, much as with people who require continual growth and learning in order to overcome the challenges that await them societies are no different, there is no perfection as there are too many individuals with different ideas of what is ideal for them.
I agree with the poster that the changes we see in the world around us are not ones that I enjoy and for all those that agree we need to band our minds together to find solutions.(even little things can become great if enough people are doing them.)
Mindsets are everything that is why I reply in this way, it seems many minds are set to find problems not solutions, to find blame in others rather than ways to improve ones own life.(I have come to recognize this in others as I was finally able to see it in myself.)

reply to post by nunya13


nice rant,all our economies could have maybe limped through for a few decades more,but the welfare states in all countries (western) have amounted to anyone wealthy enough will "sponser" a 2nd hidden family of deadbeats.nobody even mentions the elderly,look up those statistics.it will frighten you.
but what nobody ever says is the world fell apart after 4 or 5 years of war on many fronts.the western world bankrupted itself chasing one man,one man.ten years it took to get one man.it wasnt even a stealth bomber or a drone,it was done by special forces.surely the same interception surveillance that tracked him,could have been carried out for what 10%,even 1% of the same budget over that timeframe.if osama is dead...it took a few 556 rounds.a dollar at most.
make no mistake if the usa flounders economically,all her allies will too.if put simply at the most likely outcome
one man with pair of dodgy kidneys has ruined everyones way of life.has left us openly in fear of an asian superpower.has left those of us who own our homes likely to be mortgaged to an asian controlled bank.
distill this even further and you could say osama has killed us all.
they say all that you need to kill the president is to be willing to swap your life for his ,but osama has killed america at the cost of his own life.

Originally posted by vipertruck99
reply to post by nunya13

 

one man with pair of dodgy kidneys has ruined everyones way of life.

No, we ruined our own way of life by allowing his (supposed) actions to turn us inter quivering scardy-cats and started passing numerous pieces of legislation and executive orders aimed at "protecting" us though all they did was remove our rights as American citizens.

Osama didn't vote to pass the PATRIOT Act.

Osama didn't circumvent the constitution by allowing unwarranted search and seizure.

Osama didn't cause the housing bubble to burst

Osama didn't say that corporations have unlimited freedom of speech in the form of campaign donations to politicians.

The only people who ruined the American way of life are the elitists and corrupt politicians in their pockets, not to mention ourselves who continue to sit idly by while all this happens.

reply to post by Stargate2012


Great contribution!! Thanks!!

And since your example is occurring in Bizzaro America, those 10,000 people that will be laid off and need to apply for unemployment income and welfare to feed their families will be called lazy poor people who mooch off the system so they don't have to take personal responsibility for their own lives. These new people collecting welfare checks in Bizzaro America will be the reason there is a greater burden on the economy, not the corporation that laid them off because of piss-poor financial management causing them to seek financial assistance and asked for additional tax breaks thereby further reducing tax revenue.

Poor Cisco had to pay too many taxes in the first place that is why they have to hide their money in a Swiss bank account. It's not fair, otherwise. They had to pay their CEO so much money because they had to compensate for the fact that the government would have taken some of it in the form of taxes and give it to those poor, lazy people FOR FREE because that is what Socialists do!!

reply to post by lunatux


Yes, I am very aware of all of this; however, I think we may be misunderstanding eachother. I will leave it at that.

reply to post by nunya13


You are welcome. Exactly, very good points. Yep, the unemployed, the 10,000 that will be let go at Cisco Systems soon will collect their unemployment checks but of course be blamed. I think it is not the Democrats that do this but the Republicans.

Too much greed, politics, ego, and power in companies now. Chambers wants a tax holiday to bring back employees from foreign countries to the U.S. I call that bull#. Mainly because they are laying off 10,000 workers now because of his stupid management decisions, but also they have been shipping jobs oversees all of when Bush was in office, along with hiring H1-B visa people and pushing out the American worker out the door that made twice as much in salary. It happened with my Dad there. Let him go, and hired two H1-B visa workers from China.

Cisco pays a very poor divided now that they FINALLY started doing. Even Ralph Nader thinks the divided in a complete joke.

Here is a story that is on the DrudgeReport right now.

General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010

abcnews.go.com...

I am all for shareholder and corporate socialism. The world would be a better place and employees would be treated more fairly. But nope, the greedy CEOs, upper management and board of directors will keep on getting richer while the average worker will keep getting screwed.

Something has happened.

I am turning into a bizarro version of myself.

Im turning into a hippie, so says my family.

Originally posted by ExPostFacto It is the only thing I can seem to do, is support those speaking truth. And dissociate from liars.

I have tried this myself and still adhere to the philosophy of truth. What you will eventually discover is that the world will lets just say basically crucify you for it, get ready to be hated and despised... if you want to move along in society you have to lie ,cheat, and steal from others in one way or another, it's just all how one looks at it.

in the end and in the wilderness of bizzaroland your knowledge and skill do not reflect your success and achievements in life, but your cunning at snaking others makes you the ideal citizen.

Originally posted by nunya13

Originally posted by vipertruck99
reply to post by nunya13

 

one man with pair of dodgy kidneys has ruined everyones way of life.

No, we ruined our own way of life by allowing his (supposed) actions to turn us inter quivering scardy-cats and started passing numerous pieces of legislation and executive orders aimed at "protecting" us though all they did was remove our rights as American citizens.

Osama didn't vote to pass the PATRIOT Act.


agree with all your points,but you cannot blame the govt,you are an armed country,civilians in the uk here have next to no chance of armed protest,if americans dont rise up they are ignoring their own constitution.but dont think im trolling.i agree and am frustrated as well,i would be the first to protest but think i would cut a lonely figure.cant help thinking,"my god 30 yrs plus of area 51 talk and in a nation of 300 million ,a few thousand could not mobilise and simply all take a drive there...what in the hell could they do"


Osama didn't circumvent the constitution by allowing unwarranted search and seizure.

Osama didn't cause the housing bubble to burst

Osama didn't say that corporations have unlimited freedom of speech in the form of campaign donations to politicians.

The only people who ruined the American way of life are the elitists and corrupt politicians in their pockets, not to mention ourselves who continue to sit idly by while all this happens.