Chemtrail 'RAIN'

OK this evening about 9.30'ish I was out in my garden here in Warrington Cheshire with my friend who had come to help me load up my car with bits and pieces to take to the local re-cycle centre tomorrow.
We started discussing the fact that they were having a right 'blitz' with the chemtrailing...loads of 'X'. But we also commented on how fast these planes (if that's what they were )were actually going. My friend is an ex RAF technician and he was surprised about their speed. We joked about how we will wake up tomorrow with tight chests (a recent phenomenon over the last couple of months for both of us) and no doubt it will be p****ng down with rain tomorrow.
I felt what I thought was a drop of rain on my forehead. With wiping it away, I was looking over towards my shed which has a tree growing behind it. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me (it's an age thing you know!), as I could clearly see very very fine what looked like rain coming down. I asked my friend to look, but he couldn't see anything.....at first.
We turned round towards my neighbours garden, having sort of dismissed what I 'thought' I had seen as we were bone dry. Oh Oh, there it was as clear as clear could be a fine DRY rain coming down (more trees making it more 'visible'). My friend went to look to see if any 'moisture' was on his car......bone dry! We started discussing the film that was posted by Ickey of that woman who managed to record dry rain falling on her roof and you could actually hear it. With that I felt another 'wet' drop on my arm, except it wasn't!
We decided to go indoors....wasn't going to stay outside and get DRY RAINED on!

Please, please, please, my camera is only a simple digital one, but if there is anyone out there witha good camera, please try and film this.
We are both experienced sailors, we know WET when we see it and most certainly when we feel it. We could see this CLEARLY, but everything was bone dry......really plays with your sensibilities I can tell you.

Rainbows
Jane

reply to post by angelchemuel


if you truly believe you are being poisoned by chemtails, please don't post about it, get samples and take them to a lab. If you care about humanity and the planet or even just your garden, take samples and do something. Posting on ATS about some questionable event will only further the muckyness that is the chemtrail theory. I think it's bunk and I don't believe in them, but if you find evidence to the contrary, everyone will have to listen. Until the evidence is presented, things will continue as they have. Be the catalyst.

reply to post by network dude


Excuse me??!! If you DON'T believe then why don't you get some tests done and prove YOUR point?
I would dearly love to get tests done on collected rainwater but I can't afford them being a single mum of three.

All I know is I saw what I saw, and so did my friend. I probably would have let it pass me by if I hadn't paid attention to the film/clip I mentioned and watched 'What in the World are they spraying' AND paid attention to the fact that the EU are now wanting answers about geoengineering. My degree is in Geography and I am a very rational person.

no rainbows for you, you are very rude, you could have said what you did in a much nicer way.
Jane

reply to post by angelchemuel

I didn't think network dude's comments were particularly rude, as they seemed to be encouraging you to take action instead of making dubious claims. I wasn't there so I can't comment specifically on what you encountered, but it does sound very much like light drizzle. But I've tried to keep an open mind, and look into this phenomena you have mentioned.

I searched for the film posted by "Ickey", and found you're post on the David Icke forum as well. I then found this video on youtube. Is this the one you are referring to?

My first impression, was that this could be some kind of pressure relief from a hot water cylinder, as this used to happen at my old house frequently. It would form a fine mist, and as it was warm water it would evaporate almost instantly after falling down. I'm not saying this is definitely what's in the video, but it's quite frustrating that the filmer never moves or pans around to see the rest of the area, meaning the video is rather inconclusive. We can't see any other part of the sky to see if there were light rain clouds, or any other source of water (fiber?)

Also as far as "dry rain" goes, if it is summer and quite warm, light rain can evaporate very quickly. Take this video for example, with relatively heavy rain which dries very quickly.


Also, I haven't seen 'What in the World are they spraying', so I tried to find a general overview to see what it's fundamental premise was. I found this. If this page sums it up, I am certainly not prepared to load the full film if they try to perpetrate the myth that normal contrails don't persist in the sky. This is a well known and documented phenomena, and would be incredibly ignorant to deny this. Let me know if this is not what the video tries to say.

reply to post by Curious and Concerned


You are getting very spooky.

first....
"I searched for the film posted by "Ickey", and found you're post on the David Icke forum as well. I then found this video on youtube. Is this the one you are referring to? "

This film is indeed the one, which somebody very kindly found and posted on that thread. They also posted another fim in conjunction with this one, and since you are getting sooooo good at 'stalking' me, please don't take offence when I suggest you can go back and have a look at that one and the comments.

As to What in the World are they Spraying......it is not like the report you referred me to....but then that is my opinion, and you don't seem to think much of that, which baffles me as to why you bother commenting on anything I write. But to help you out here is a link to the entire film on You Tube, please watch it.

www.youtube.com...

Oh and by the way "Also as far as "dry rain" goes, if it is summer and quite warm, light rain can evaporate very quickly. Take this video for example, with relatively heavy rain which dries very quickly."

Did you read the bit about us being experienced sailors?


Rainbows
jane

Originally posted by angelchemuel
reply to post by Curious and Concerned

 

You are getting very spooky.

Ok, if you say so.

Originally posted by angelchemuel
This film is indeed the one, which somebody very kindly found and posted on that thread. They also posted another fim in conjunction with this one, and since you are getting sooooo good at 'stalking' me, please don't take offence when I suggest you can go back and have a look at that one and the comments.

No offense taken. But I must say that I go on this site, often the fragile earth forum just as much as you do, and I certainly do not exclusively stalk you. If you post threads and comments, you should expect others who go on here to reply, it's really not that spooky.

I read the comments on the other thread, which didn't provide much information other than people calling every contrail they see a chemtrail, without any real rationale behind their reasoning. Was there anything specific you were referring to? I also looked at the other video, and I must say that someone wiping their forehead isn't very conclusive either. Why could they not have got a sheet of paper or something else that you can actually tell if it's wet or not? Not saying they're wrong, just that there is not much factual information to be gained from those videos.

Originally posted by angelchemuel
As to What in the World are they Spraying......it is not like the report you referred me to....but then that is my opinion, and you don't seem to think much of that, which baffles me as to why you bother commenting on anything I write. But to help you out here is a link to the entire film on You Tube, please watch it.

Why does this baffle you? I like to ask questions instead of just accepting anything as fact without researching or understanding it. I try to deny ignorance, which is what this site is all about. If you don't like people questioning you, don't bother posting here. However, if you're open to questions and debate, you're perfectly welcome to continue.

Are you saying that this video never makes the claim that normal contrails do not linger in the atmosphere? If so, are you saing that the site I linked is blatantly lying when the say that the video makes this claim? This shouldn't be a matter of opinion, as it's either yes or no. As I said, I'm not prepared to load a full length film if it contains such falseties. I do not have unlimited band width. Answering these questions would be much appreciated.

I have been noticing the X's in the sky are more frequent, and so are the chem-trails. They seem to be getting better at creating clouds that look more real and spread out faster. I can break up the sky and have a blue sky around me if im out side for more than 20 min. I today was out side and noticed chem-trails and modified clouds so i increased my love energy and broke up the clouds and made it stop raining. The blue sky was noticed cause i seen planes 30 min later making an X ware i opened up the sky. What i can do is almost exactly what a orgone blaster or a orgonite cloudbuster can do. I suggest you make both and use the orgonite cloudbuster out side especially when you see chem-trails. Search them up on Google to as why i say create one and they are super cheap to make and can be made with stuff lying around the house. They also protect you from other stuff that harms humans. Also in that first youtube video on dry rain, those fibers i believe may be asbestos fibers. Asbestos was tested positive in air samples from chem-trails. The proof is on the internet for those who seeing is believing. I hope what i said can help, especially if you are in a heavily chem-trail area.

Among all of the silly conspiracy theories out there chem trails have never really caught my eye. If anything they spray things to help control the weather in certain ways that would be it though..

reply to post by Curious and Concerned




"I read the comments on the other thread, which didn't provide much information other than people calling every contrail they see a chemtrail, without any real rationale behind their reasoning.

Contrail/chemtrail you have made your point already that you don't believe in chemtrails.....so just leave us 'loopy loo' chemtrailers to it. No doubt you have a thread somewhere totally proving your rationale...which is fine, but as I believe the opposite having already looked at loads evidence chemtrail debunkers present, I have come to my conclusion. Mutual respect.

"Was there anything specific you were referring to?"
"I also looked at the other video, and I must say that someone wiping their forehead isn't very conclusive either. Why could they not have got a sheet of paper or something else that you can actually tell if it's wet or not?"

Emmm.....dry rain.
I would happily collect samples if somebody could tell me how to collect something which is dry and doesn't leave any visible trace so I know what to scrape up!


"I like to ask questions instead of just accepting anything as fact without researching or understanding it."
So do I.

"If you don't like people questioning you, don't bother posting here. However, if you're open to questions and debate, you're perfectly welcome to continue."

Oooh....how very generous of you! I have perfectly fine conversations and 'debates' as you call them with everyone else I have interacted with on this site and others. Except you. "you are perfectly welcome to continue"...like I said, how very generous of you. It is not what you post but the manner that you post which riles people here. Humility.

"I do not have unlimited band width."
OK....does one have to have unlimited band width to be able to watch something on You Tube?......please somebody else answer this question.

"Answering these questions would be much appreciated."
Done as requested to the best of my knowledge....but no doubt you will pick holes in these too.

As a final point, please look at the way I respond to other people here, you might learn something about grace and humility which goes a long way in getting respect from other people. I am not the only person on here that you have managed to irritate and in some cases allienate.

Rainbows
Jane

reply to post by unknown32


Hi
Could you show me where you got your information about asbestos being found in the atmosphere and where the samples were taken from and how please? If this is the case, then it would go some way to explaining the rise in chest and breathing problems people are now getting which is on the rise globally I believe. I know myself and both my friends who are interested in this have been getting chest problems BEFORE any possible link was made to chemtrails.

I have had a look into orgonite and I find it abosolutely fascinating as I practice crystal therapy. Just haven't got round to building one and giving it a go. As to having a beneficial effect to the emediate environment, I have no problem with this as I know my garden loves having crystals and other such minerals scattered around.
And before anybody jumps in to debunk this, I have grown gardens as any 'normal' gardener would do. But when I start putting crystals and other minerals out there...what a difference to the health a and productivity! Wow!

Rainbows
Jane

Something my father has told me as a child has stuck with me and now I wonder. He told me the government had plans to spray '___' from plane to sooth and calm people, and have better control over them. As we know there are two ways a trip can go, really good, or really bad.

www.botany.hawaii.edu...

This is a long read on the history of '___' and it's potental uses.If you look at all of the ppl killing children, eachother, and who knows the effects it has on animals. So it makes me wonder are they alredy useing it?

Originally posted by Playto76
Something my father has told me as a child has stuck with me and now I wonder. He told me the government had plans to spray '___' from plane to sooth and calm people, and have better control over them. As we know there are two ways a trip can go, really good, or really bad.

www.botany.hawaii.edu...

This is a long read on the history of '___' and it's potental uses.If you look at all of the ppl killing children, eachother, and who knows the effects it has on animals. So it makes me wonder are they alredy useing it?

Or maybe some sort of 'man made' derivative which would give 'them' more control? Sounds like that Manchurian Candidate book, but with a twist! Like your thoughts though, and not beyond the realms of reality......probably more plausable than 'dry rain'....still can't quite get my head around what we experienced!

Rainbows
Jane

Originally posted by angelchemuel
reply to post by network dude

 

Excuse me??!! If you DON'T believe then why don't you get some tests done and prove YOUR point?
I would dearly love to get tests done on collected rainwater but I can't afford them being a single mum of three.

All I know is I saw what I saw, and so did my friend. I probably would have let it pass me by if I hadn't paid attention to the film/clip I mentioned and watched 'What in the World are they spraying' AND paid attention to the fact that the EU are now wanting answers about geoengineering. My degree is in Geography and I am a very rational person.

no rainbows for you, you are very rude, you could have said what you did in a much nicer way.
Jane

I am sorry for damaging your fragile ego. I will try get right on proving chemtrails don't exist just after I finish with this Santa Claus business. Proving he doesn't exist seems to be taking all my time.

I am sure you saw something. Knowing that you already believe someone is spraying you with malicious intent, I can see why you would jump to the chemtrail conclusion. My only advice I offered, was to be part of the solution and to stop being part of the problem.

reply to post by angelchemuel


Well nothing being sprayed tens of thousands of feet above you would land on you. Something being sprayed in the middle of the Atlantic might though.

However, I've just checked the radar archive at at 9.30pm on the 11th July there was some very light, rather blotchy, precipitation showing up over Chesire. I would think under the weather conditions that most of this would have evapourated before reaching the ground, but certainly a few spots reaching the ground would not be impossible, though not enough to register. You ust happened to be in the right place at the right time to notice it.

Other explanations are, however, possible.


Edit: btw I have experienced rain apparently falling from an almost clear sky - actually very light precipitation falling from a cloud some miles away being blown over by strong mid level winds.

reply to post by network dude


I apologise.
Can you tell me how I am supposed to collect samples? And how can I collect samples of something I see, but leaves no trace? I understand that there is a class action suit being prepared in California I think it is with regards to all this, but they have been able to collect samples but only because this 'dry' rain has left deposits.

Rainbows
Jane

reply to post by Essan


I have just come back from a neighbours house who told me another neighbour of ours was saying this morning that it was trying to rain.......we have not had rain since I posted this thread yesterday. Anyway it didn't rain and still hasn't yet my neighbour swears she felt rain spots when she came out of her house. If people are not aware of what is going on, then of course they are not going to think anything of it.

Rainbows
Jane

Originally posted by angelchemuel
reply to post by Curious and Concerned

 

Contrail/chemtrail you have made your point already that you don't believe in chemtrails.....so just leave us 'loopy loo' chemtrailers to it. No doubt you have a thread somewhere totally proving your rationale...which is fine, but as I believe the opposite having already looked at loads evidence chemtrail debunkers present, I have come to my conclusion. Mutual respect.

I have never said that I don't believe in chemtrails, and you know what they say about assuming. But as someone who has been fascinated by aviation since a kid, I know a bit about how and why a contrail forms. What I don't agree with, is how some people now call every contrail a chemtrail, with woefully flawed reasoning to justify their claims. I can't just sit back, and watch people spread this misinformation. So I'm sorry if it offends you if I don't just leave the 'loopy loo' chemtrailers to it.

I have perfectly fine conversations and 'debates' as you call them with everyone else I have interacted with on this site and others. Except you. "you are perfectly welcome to continue"...like I said, how very generous of you. It is not what you post but the manner that you post which riles people here. Humility.

Were you having a perfectly fine conversation with network dude then? He didn't even get rainbows!
I know that if I simply agree with everything everyone says, I could ensure I get rainbows too. But I will ask questions if someone makes bold claims. Sometimes that doesn't bode well with people who already have their mind made up.

Originally posted by angelchemuel
"Answering these questions would be much appreciated."
Done as requested to the best of my knowledge....but no doubt you will pick holes in these too.

You know just as well as I do that you skipped my questions immediately prior to this quote. As I said, I'm not prepared to load a full length movie (with limited bandwidth) if it contains known falseties, of which I have pointed out. I asked if this movie contains them, yet you avoided answering this and attacked my integrity instead. You said yourself, that you would have let it pass by had you not seen such videos. So these videos are influencing you're decisions, and how you interpret these situations (as network dude pointed out).

It seems more likely that you experienced light drizzle, and your beliefs have influenced how you interpret it. I could be wrong of course, but there is little evidence to think otherwise. Maybe you could video this phenomena, and use something like a large sheet of cling film to observe this "dry rain" dissapearing/evaporating? I am still not sure exactly what this dry rain is meant to be. Water evaporates, especially on warm skin, much like sweat does. But what else could be causing this? Some of the videos are saying they're fibres, of which you would be able to collect.

Originally posted by angelchemuel
As a final point, please look at the way I respond to other people here, you might learn something about grace and humility which goes a long way in getting respect from other people. I am not the only person on here that you have managed to irritate and in some cases allienate.

Can you show who else I have irritated? Most people answer questions politely without resorting to personal attacks and obfuscation. I try to post with courtesy and dignity, but maybe it doesn't always work out that way. If we can stick to discussing the content of peoples posts, instead of how you interpret the way in which they post, we could have a much more worthwhile conversation.

Double Rainbows.