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Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
reply to post by JRCrowley
Um, I think your interpretation of how "horrible" BC is, is just a bit misleading
Yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff that goes on around this province. There's lots of losers, homeless people, druggies, thieves, thugs, sluts, crazies, etc.
However, the general population has their head straight for the most part. The only problem is that in every major population centre in BC, most people are outsiders. For instance, let's use Kelowna as an example (this is true for any city though). The people who grew up there see themselves, and are generally see as, the "centre" of the population of the city. However, they are the minority compared to others.
One of the other major groups are other Canadians, usually people from other BC cultures. They are obviously different from Kelowna regulars; perhaps they wear different clothes (especially if you're a hippy from Trail or a wankster from Surrey), have strange tattoos, walk in a different stance, talk with a different confidence, smoke in different settings (this is a cultural characteristic for BC people as preferences change between those who grew up in rural and urban settings).
Sometimes you'll even run into Canadians from other provinces, and usually they act like they're so morally superior (especially Ontarians, grrrrrrr) or outright better (Albertans) or more cultured (Quebecois) or homely and shy (eastern Maritime provinces) or worst of all, they think they can outdrink us (Manitobans). These "outsiders" are allowed into our regional circles mostly out of curiousity and entertainment than anything else.
Then there's the immigrants. They're everywhere. Don't get me wrong, I'm not racist but there's definitely racial tension on every level in BC. Basically, these people tend to stick to their own little culture cliques. I've even seen for myself around Vancouver and Surrey where there's literally subdivisions dominated by east Indians, streets owned by Asians. This is just the way it goes. Though, I must admit that I've met a few that are fun to hang around with; these being the ones who assimilate to our culture the most (herb-wise, anyways).
Beyond this, there is the underground. There's lots of gangs and organized crime here, but you've made a serious error of inexperience by portraying the weed industry as being the same as violent gangs (like the UN/Independent Soldiers/Red Scorpions). It's not. The underground that I know is not related to gangs nor is it out to harm anyone or any place; it is simply supply, demand, happiness.
And yeah, there's a lot of scum here too. You know what I've found in common between the scummy people? They are all ignorant. They fear education. They think they know it all and they actually intend to interfere in the lives of other people, usually involving getting into their "bubble" in some pathetic act of wannabe dominance.
It's these people that really bring out the worst of BC. Ignorant people. People who just can't stay the hell out of other peoples' business. It's because of them that most BC people, especially those in urban centres, always eye strangers on the street with suspicion because for all they know, that random guy with tattoos walking adjacent to you could be out to steal your wallet and screw your sister.
And guess what? This is exactly the mindset that the government wants. They want people to stick to their own business, to spend their lives working in the legitimate BC economy while following the rules and showing complete submission to the law when it demands it. They don't want us to communicate, or even view strangers, on a human level.
They want us to have a "it's him or me" mentality and they will exploit EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY they can to portray why it must be this way to the general population- starting with excessive reporting of obscure horror stories of isolated instances. Have you ever asked why? To show us that because one person cooks up and eats her kid, that we must all be capable of it? To show that just because somebody gets shot by a gang, that buying marijuana is a violent act? To show that when 100,000 people riot in the streets of Vancouver, that they are all stupid punk domestic terrorists that could be your neighbor?
They introject this crap into your head to educate you according to their institutions. They are trying to tell you that to be a proper citizen of BC, you must follow their biased interpretation of the very world around you instead of opening your own eyes and making your own choices.
To be a true British Columbian is to say "F society, F the government, and F the system. This is my life and I'll live it any damn way I want to." And if this makes me the scum of Canada, then so be it.
(Sorry for the off-topic rant, but my pride was exploding within me )edit on 15-7-2011 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dnevnoi
I've rewritten this post dozens of times and there's no way to not come off like a douche.
There isn't any indication of a racist undertone to these disappearances,
The murders and disappearances became national news (and, some say, finally got the attention of the police) when 25-year-old tree planter Nicole Hoar, who is white, went missing along the Highway of Tears on June 21, 2002. Hoar was last seen hitchhiking near a gas station near Prince George, known as B.C.’s northern capital, and despite a full-scale RCMP investigation, she has never been found.
All I am asking is treat all these woman as if they were you're own flesh and blood.
Originally posted by Mividau
Originally posted by Dnevnoi
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And I am sure if it was you're daughter, friends or family you would too.
All I am asking is treat all these woman as if they were you're own flesh and blood.
LOTZA LOVEedit on 16-7-2011 by Mividau because: added a link to the article, forgot sorry
Well I agree with your sentimenst completely but it never works out like that in practice does it?
THere was a similar pattern in the Yorkshire Ripper case where the British police only ratcheted up the investigations when a "nice girl" got murdered I shuddered to think how many more "bad girls" (i.e. prostitutes) would have been killed. It seems like cop mentality to me.
And justice for all?
Originally posted by Mividau
I am also upset that Global Networks as CNN did not carry this story.
We would be apalled if this many women disapeared in that kind of area in one location and it did not get Globa coverage. Some people dont seem to want to treat others as you wish to be treated. If anyone I knew went missing I would be raising hell. And I am sure if it was you're daughter, friends or family you would too.
Originally posted by stirling
Maybe its some wierdo cop doing in these women?
Its odd that they are all missing from the vanderhoof highway....
Im wondering if there is some other coincidental details that may help pin thisdown closer to the mark.I know the cops dont really have a great deal of respect for the native people.Perhaps they dont care enough to make a thorough investigation?
Originally posted by thedeadwalkk
What is this bull#? I only hear about this now AND I'M CANADIAN.
It's a shame it takes the death of a white person to bring things to light.