UK Gets First "Sharia Controlled Zone".

Bible evidence is being found all the time, all its empires mentioned have been found, some only recently in this modern age and yet ca be proven as real. Maybe the stories can not be proven just yet but the the pieces are coming togethers, more evidence supports the Bible History than it does not.
There are ancient scrols like the dead sea scrols and some newly found gospels.

Also you would have to say alot of it is hidden or covered up by other nations and the media does not help, as long they find the so called 'Lucy' the first human being then they may as well call her lucifer.

www.thetrumpet.com...

Situated just outside the Old City in Jerusalem, the Ophel City Wall site sits between the City of David and the southern wall of the Temple Mount. Now open to the public, the Ophel Wall features ancient artifacts dated to the 10th century b.c., a period during which the ancient kingdom of Israel experienced extraordinary expansion under King David and his son and heir, Solomon. Among the Ophel discoveries is an impressive edifice—a 70-meter-long and 6-meter-high wall—constructed during King Solomon’s reign.

The wall has been dated to the 10th century b.c., and all evidence indicates that it was built by King Solomon and is the one mentioned in 1 Kings 3:1. This scripture speaks of Solomon building his own palace, “and the house of the Lord, and the wall of Jerusalem round about.” It’s pretty incredible, when you think about it—being able to reach out and touch a wall that King Solomon himself strolled by daily three millenniums ago!
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But Where Is the Media Coverage?

Tragically, most people ignore or reject this inspiring reality. June’s official inauguration of the Ophel City Wall, for example, came with a regrettable, shameful side story: the virtual blackout in the Western media. Outside of a few Israeli outlets, the inauguration of one of the most remarkable archeological discoveries in recent history was met with shocking silence!

The reason, in large part, is that the discovery of a significant Jewish presence in Jerusalem as early as the 10th century b.c. undermines the popular leftist narrative that the biblical account of a Davidic monarchy is exaggerated or a fallacy. The Ophel discoveries, as Jonathan Tobin accurately pointed out in Commentary, are a “standing rebuke to those who refer to parts of Israel’s capital as ‘traditional Palestinian’ or ‘Arab East Jerusalem’” (June 21).

With this in mind it was telling that, at least from the articles I read and the footage I viewed, there was no indication that Israeli officials at the inauguration brandished the Ophel finds as a political instrument. This was an ideal opportunity for the Jews to politicize the archeology, to unsheathe these stunning artifacts and wield them as a weapon to dismember the left’s false narrative. They didn’t. Instead, Dr. Mazar, Mayor Barkat and the other Israeli officials who attended looked beyond the politics and concentrated on the lesson that is truly the most important: They celebrated the fact that these ancient edifices and artifacts prove the veracity of the Bible!
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This is just one of many findings over the last 200 years but everyone wants to put their head in the Arabian sand, I just hope when God has his say how stupid man has been over the years.

reply to post by blupblup




Government, police, all forms of systemic appeasement of Islamic insanity! Sometimes I think this appeasement is because of the holy-grail that is OIL and fear of alienating oil producing nations and other times, I think it's about intellectual dishonesty of the liberal elites who would probably have apoplectic fits if accused of sharing Thatcher's hate of the working classes! The only thing I am 100% certain of is that Sharia is gaining acceptance and I think it is because the only people currently affected by it are Muslim. In my opinion, the only good thing about Sharia are the rules against usury. If Sharia continues to gain momentum because westerners start using Islamic banking services, then and I suspect only then, will the 'authorities' seek to curb it.

reply to post by sapien82


ya, that's it, they are messed up in the head.

psycho killer, kiss my ask.

Just because radical ismalists have "vowed to make this a Sharia zone" doesn't mean that its happened.

Very misleading headline for this thread. OP should go work for Murdoch group.

I'm "vowing to retire with $1 million", doesn't mean that it will happen.

reply to post by Zamini


way weak and what is this about rape? i don't get it,

what's that got to do with anything?

you don't make a lot of sense zami.

reply to post by babybunnies


What has already happened in Sweden & Holland may be a warning of the future in the UK.

The Wiesenthal Center now warns Jews not to travel to Sweden due to Muslim immigrant persecution.

While screaming “Sieg Heil” and “Hitler, Hitler” in 2009, a violent mob of Swedish Muslims launched bottles and stones at a pro-Israel demonstration attended by a small number of Jews in the central square of Malmö.

Media reports have documented widespread harassment of Jews and Jewish children have routinely been called “dirty
Jews.”

www.jpost.com...

Jews have been advised to leave Holland, by an ex-EU commissioner, to escape persecution by Moroccan Muslims.

Jews should consider leaving the Netherlands and going to America or Israel because of anti Semitism, particularly among Dutch Moroccans, former VVD leader Frits Bolkestein told free newspaper De Pers.

Bolkestein said he sees no future in the Netherlands for Jews who stand out, such as orthodox Jews. Arabic tv senders are largely to blame for the anti-Jewish sentiment, the former EU commissioner said.

www.dutchnews.nl...

We can only hope that as Islamic populations increase in the UK, Islamic persecution of Jews doesn't appear as it has in Sweden & Holland.

reply to post by babybunnies

Just because radical ismalists have "vowed to make this a Sharia zone" doesn't mean that its happened.

Very misleading headline for this thread.

Ok, I'll take that as being correct.

If someone was to declare a 'Christian only zone', which to my knowledge no-one has in this country for quite a considerable length of time, the police would react immediately, have all offensive and illegal material and posters removed, actively seek out those who had placed the 'hate' mail etc and ensure that no repetition occured and that the area was policed accordingly to enforce the law.
And rightly so.

Will they do the same here or will they sit back and ignore it and hope it goes away, or turn a blind eye to it if it is actually enforced by the Muslims responsible or only take action when there is a reaction to it from the local non-Muslims and then blame it on 'racists'?

I await with eager anticipation.

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As for those discussing 'honour killings'; yes, it is a real and growing problem.
But it is not unique to Muslims.
It is very much a cultural thing and is equally as common within Hindu, Sikh and other 'Eastern' religious communities.
There have been instances in places as diverse as Brazil, Argentina as well as the Middle East, Asia, North Africa etc.

Personally, and this is just opinion with no first hand knowledge to support it or facts or data etc, but I think as extremism and fundamentalism increases in various religions, for various reasons, and at the same time more people from these cultures come into contact with and are influenced by 'Western' culture and valuesthe gulf between the two grows, sometimes with tragic consequences.

I do know people from Pakistani and Indian backgrounds, (Muslim and Hindu's), who have been completely disowned by their families because of lifestyle choices they have made, but nothing worse than that.

However, I must add that as far as I am aware it is only Muslim countries that have codified tolerance for honour killings.

ETA.

In two Latin American countries, similar laws were struck down over the past two decades: according to human rights lawyer Julie Mertus "in Brazil, until 1991 wife killings were considered to be non-criminal 'honor killings'; in just one year, nearly eight hundred husbands killed their wives. Similarly, in Colombia, until 1980, a husband legally could kill his wife for committing adultery

en.wikipedia.org...

Cultural, not religious.

reply to post by Freeborn

It is very much a cultural thing and is equally as common within Hindu, Sikh and other 'Eastern' religious communities.

Exactly. Christians just disown their kids or their kids go missing and nobody at the church knows a thing. I like how you missed Christianity in your "Eastern" religious list. You do know it's an Eastern religion right? And that there are Christian parents who are lunatics as well and who do exercise these oppressive measures onto their children? I've read some case studies...won't get into them here.

Deny ignorance.

reply to post by Zamini


Of course I know Christianity is of Eastern origin...but it's far more prominent as a faith in 'The West' than 'The East'.
You know exactly the point I was making but just can't help yourself being facetious.

I've known plenty of 'white' people fall out with their families etc, but it's not a cultural thing with them to kill their daughter because she's married a Muslim or converted to Islam, (and I'm using Muslim and Islam merely as an example, it could be Hindu or different race blah, blah blah, sure you get the point), they simply fall out and stop talking, in extreme cases they are disowned and cut out of any inheritance that may be due.

Oh, and for clarity I said "Eastern communities", not Eastern religions.
I am unaware of any honour killings within Christian communities in the East, if there are any I'm sure you'll be able to pass on sourced details etc, I certainly don't discount the possibillity that I'm wrong.

Originally posted by Zamini
What you fail to understand is that he did not do those things because he was/is Muslim. He did it because he is insane.

Here is whole family of insane Muslims who carried out an honour killing.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au...

Some poor Turkish girl who was raped, was murdered by her mother, father, brother and two uncles.

Strange, isn't it, that they all went insane at the same time.

the world would be a better place without relgion.
its good to have beleifs and faith but those beleifs and faith should never have any politcal power.
religion should stay out of politics and politics out of religion.

again i say sharia law in uk could never happen, not for a few decades anyway.

reply to post by The time lord


yes, its becoming harder and harder to deny, yet it will be denied. a few decades ago a lot of biblical locations and cities were thought to be made up, now most have been found.

chariot wheels have been found under the red sea. hmm...i wonder how they got there?

ollncasino, I'm not surprised. This type of act isn't the first. People are iether ignorant or lying when they say it's isolated incidents. No, what I have seen is there's this shared behavior, this mindset among people in the Islamic world. It's more than religion that affects some of them. Like all the mess in Pakistan. I think that Muslims are used and manipulated just like Jews and other groups have been and are used and manipulated.


reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


Part of me would have plenty to say as I'm very against this but I'm a Christian and really believe in what Jesus says. It bothers me no doubt about it. Religion should never control government.
I mean with what you said it's like a big mockery and joke of the government there. They should be tried with treason.

These are nothing but bullies. Next time maybe bring some pals with you or a baseball bat, anything to defend yourself. I'm an American since birth and I think what you are going through there is a symptom of a larger problem. Just like many problem's here.
Have the people there no love or care for their history, their heritage, how about their family? How about future generation's. Geert Wilders being banned from the U.K was a sign of many of where U.K countries might be headed. It's really sad man. I'll be sure to let my Americans know. We have to stand together.

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
Er... This is just a group of idiots putting up stickers.

Your thread title is misleading, to say the least.

A group of knuckle-draggers who put ''blacks out'' or ''no gays here'' stickers on lamp-posts would not lead to a headline stating: ''UK gets first anti-gay controlled zone'' or ''UK gets first anti-black controlled zone''.

Stop buying into this fear-ridden, anti-Muslim propaganda.

Behave yourselves.

edit on 10-7-2011 by Sherlock Holmes because: (no reason given)

Excuse me sir (or ma'am) but do your homework, this # is real. Read some newspapers. The UK is allowing the Muslim community to implement their own law while exempting the UK laws in those areas, also the MAC are trying to have all the UK imprisoned Muslims released to these little areas.
I am sorry I have nothing against the Islamic religion
BUT I DO NOT agree with any racial group, religion, political assay, etc to immigrate to another country to change its laws. If you would like to live under Sharia Law (which is basically the "law" of Islam..) go back to your own f k ing country.

reply to post by pattyngayle


That is not the point they want to take over it is their duty to it is what they have been preached to do. there are websites about them taking over Rome and plenty of Muslims are there already because deep down some believe it is their prophecy and duty.

We know what the Christains say about Rome and blaming the Chatholics this time the future could classed as misread abd be an Islamic end world empire instead.

It is funny how Armageddon and the war of Gog and Magog is all in the middle east in Bible prophecy before Islam was even a religion while Persia Iran is a big end time player, read Daniel 10,11 Ezekiel 38, Psalm 83, Mathew 24 and other prophecies and Babylon-Iraq where the wave of large armies gather from the East.

If these are the sins of the times then this could be the case.

reply to post by ALOSTSOUL


Sounds like time for a mass deportation plan to me! If they can't follow the laws of the land, then they should either leave, or declare themselves to be the hostile invaders they already are. What they are doing amounts to, quote simply, a takeover. An invasion. Same thing they will do anywhere and everywhere they are allowed. They are trying in the States, too. All the PC people want to help them.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


A dutch politician got sued for saying things which are not in favor of islam and its followers.
He speaks of less islam and a normal integration into the dutch society.
I think people should decide themselfs if they want to believe or not, no matter what religion although islam is more a theocracy then a religion.
The main thing is not too force rules of ones believe on others like the story alostsoul tells us.
That is beyond tolerance and should not be.

Don't blame the imperialistic Islamists, they have never ever ever said they are not about spreading Islam and Mohammeds teachings .

They are not hypocrites.

Blame instead the traitors who for the sake of world trade.... ie many gold coins in their pockets and chambers , have sold out the bloke who's father or grandfather fought in the world wars to defend Britain against external threats.

In Australia the muslims have been allowed to place Billboards (BIG Billboards) all over major cities proclaiming that Jesus is a prophet of Islam....yes the traitors here are rapt in the freedom of expression, that they have bestowed on the recently arrived Islamists who's stated aim over and over is to convert.

oh well two nations of cowards and traitors perhaps deserve Islam.