What Are We Capable Of - THIS IS ANONYMOUS!

Even if it may have begun as an authentic people's movement
I'll tell you the #1 reason I don't believe Anonymous is any more:
It's getting too much MSM coverage.
That does not happen because Anonymous is causing too much disruption to the system.
It happens because someone in control wants it to.

This isn't so much about control of the web - it's about control of everyone and everything.

They tell us the worldwide economy is teetering on the edge. So what does Anonymous propose? Attacking corporate and banking targets. Who will get blamed when the crash happens? Anonymous! That's who.
The majority of the masses will then be crying for the blood of Anonymous members instead of the robber barons who really crashed the economy. The public will demand internet controls to stop such attacks from occurring and will be blaming YOU for all their miseries. Classic misdirection.
It will be easy enough for the governments to go and find whoever took part in Anonymous' activities. Your anonymity only goes as far as the next average web user. Since every company and website you interact with online knows who you are how easy is it for the government to know?
Don't fool yourselves about this.

How do you get the stray horse back in it's paddock? Hold out the carrot.
They are playing on your anger, your pride and your false sense of security to lure you out.

You can't be Anonymous because there is no Anonymity!

Think long and hard before you jump on a bandwagon that you neither know where it's headed or who is driving it.
The New Word Order is treacherous enough to pull off 9/11, don't think they can't fool you again.

I agree the world needs change but it won't come from the internet. It will require bodies in the street and general strikes to stop the madness. Yes, it will require actual risk to ourselves. That is the only tactic that has worked before and is the only true viable option we have. Face to face and shoulder to shoulder, not IP to IP.

Has it occurred to anyone that the internet might be the problem instead of the solution?

reply to post by Asktheanimals


And they couldn't just be getting more coverage because as time drags on more people hear about it and it becomes a bigger story? Hit a homerun, no coverage, hit a record breaking streak of homeruns... you get it.

Maybe the MSM really is in league with the government, but they have also been spinning Anon as terrorists so couldn't the be putting them out there to make Americans hate them and wouldn't that indicate they weren't government? Also it could just be a hot story that makes money..

reply to post by Asktheanimals

It's getting too much MSM coverage.

Is that so? Well, the same thing is said when there is a media blackout on something. So, if the media is shining the light on something, it's bad. When the media isn't shining the light on something, it's twice as bad.

Some people need to make up their minds. Pick a side and hope for the best.

At least when you're on the Internet protesting something, you cannot be tear gasses, tasered, or squished by a tank. I believe that protest through the Internet is the only way to avoid all the new fangled weapons that are being used against protesters who congregate in the streets.

Originally posted by Terrorist
I really don't mean to insult you guys or give any disrespect, but I believe it is paranoid to say that Anonymous is a way for the government(s) to get more control. Anonymous is exactly what it seems. Sometimes a cake is just a cake.

But dont forget that you can even learn from video games, and relize that most of the time THE CAKE IS A LIE.
But I guess you gotta love aperture science.
If you think they would not use anon as an excuse I dunno I think they would. And if they do they the will lend Instant validation to the movment so I guess bad for them.
And just so I am not misunderstood dew to the joke above. The ideals that I have seen from anon I like from what I have read and seen so far. I would like to know more about the groups views tho that would be nice you know sometimes help can hurt when you consider the sorce.

reply to post by soaringhawk


thank you for coming out and honestly siding with the government and the status quo
comes the revolution we know you can not be counted on/cannot be trusted.

nor are consumers who are complaining that their credit card didn't work boo-hoo
we understand, you don't want to rock the boat,
to bad your teeny-tiny world[view] is about to be rocked
acknowledged and noted.
go back to your trough and continue placidly consuming.

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"All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are." - H.L. Mencken

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The law is not some Platonic Form plucked from the skies by the Pure in Heart. Laws are written by men, men who have particular interests, particular constituencies, particular donors, and particular friends. (The same is now true of women as well, of course. But for most of our history, it was men and only men. Straight, white men, to be precise; see here and here.) Laws are the particular means by which the state implements and executes its vast powers. When an increasingly authoritarian state passes a certain critical point in its development, the law is no longer the protector of individual rights and individual liberty. The law becomes the weapon of the state itself -- to protect, not you, but the state from threats to its own powers. We passed that critical point some decades ago. The law is the means by which the state corrals its subjects, keeps them under control, and forbids them from acting in ways that the overlords might perceive as threatening. In brief, today, in these glorious United States, the law is not your friend.

I'm also a Christian and I am to obey the Government unless they impose something that is morally wrong.

yes indeed, without big daddy government to violently impose your anti-life "morality" on others you just don't feel secure.

acknowledged

I'll believe again when they totally destroy the credit scoring/ranking systems that almost totally control every aspect of tour lives now. That would hit the controllers where they claim it hurts (financially) on a pretty massive scale.

As for them providing the "ammo" to shut down the internet? I disagree. They're showing what happens when they try to shut it down. Besides, they won't shut it down because, again, there's too much $$$ at stake.

Originally posted by The Old American
moot wouldn't give you the time of day.

Yeah you just lost any small shred of credibility you might have had on the subject lol..... So ignorant yet you play it off like you actually know what you're talking about.

reply to post by Section31


How about you don't click on the topic then? Nobody forced you to open this thread and post your 2 cents on the matter.

Beezzer's final thoughts on this thread.
We could continue, back and forth. But I'm seeing something here. Something I'm very familiar with.

When I defend the Tea Party, people are saying that it's been hi-jacked, that I and as an extension the Tea Party, is being used.

Being on the other "side" of the arguement has been enlightening. I've used the same accusations, and have heard the same responses from you folks that I have used to defend something I believe in.

Funny thing though. Whether or not Anon is a government op or a group of freedom fighters bravely fighting the system with nobility and honour; the fact remains that government is going to push for more regulation on the internet.
Regardless.

I'll fight it my way.
You folks fight it your way.

We have to remember we do have a common enemy in this.

Cheers.

Beez

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I'm amazed that people believe Anonymous are not known to the government,I don't believe that they are are a group, in fact i firmly think that they are just a cover group for the government to bring about the changes they want in relation to control of the internet,mark my words there will come a day when they go to far and the public turn against them,its an old tactic, get the people on your side and then destroy there belief and what you end up with is the desired result that was already in implementation from the very beginning ie control of the net,of course i have nothing to back this up with but then again it seems obvious to me

so if anons actions gets all of the net shut down,
we know what to do

Personally, Anon is currently in there honeymoon stage. If they can still be hacking (that's if they are doing it with free will) then the government has not yet wanted to pull the plug on them. Whether they are a solo group or templar squad of some governments agenda or part of some one world agenda , they will still be investigated and are probably under surveillance as we speak. And there hacking crusade will stop once they have caused insurmountable damage or they are not needed anymore . They are not the first and certainly not the last.


But make no mistake about it. If someone is aloud to do extraordinary things is because they are aloud to do it. You may think your a bad ass but your really not ..And how do we know that Anonymous really did all these things. All there sabotage tactics have been reported by MSM.?? we the people just don't know anymore who is who. The only thing one can do is fight for your own and family's right. Believing in some group/cult/government will only lure you to one side. Which will always be the wrong side.


IF YOU DONT STAND FOR SOMETHING YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING.

reply to post by beezzer


aww i just got up and you're leaving? bummer.

I'll fight it my way. You folks fight it your way. We have to remember we do have a common enemy in this.

"a warrior uses any weapon available"

as long as you haven't lost the will to fight, you are part of the solution.
don't let it get you down.

have a nice day buddy. see ya around

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger


I'm not quitting, just not going to argue when we all basically are on the same side.
We just see the attack differently. We all can agree on the threat.
I stand by my posts but don't feel that reiterating what I've already said will be condusive.

Will follow though.

Originally posted by JayXBraun
so if anons actions gets all of the net shut down,
we know what to do

Turn to a bunch of fanatical nerds to do something about it, whilst at the same time accusing them of being agents of govt and int. services?

reply to post by beezzer



Then by your silly analogy, the targets of anonymous are the websites of innocent people. Do you even know what they do?

I agree that it seems they're trying to force the internet to be shut down. I initially thought this could be because they ARE the government and they're trying to give themselves a reason to take more liberties away. Upon further research and this video, however, I now believe that they're doing it in order to get everyone angry. While most people won't stand up for the rights of others or get angry over injustice (at least angry enough to do anything), most people will get angry enough to do something if the internet's taken away. They're trying to start a war, but the government needs to make the first move. They're trying to force the government's hand.

In my opinion.

reply to post by B4Truth

If Anon was a true group of freedom wanting hackers, then they would help expose that government for its lies, the Federal Reserve and the way all Banks operate, and the Monsanto Company , along with the facts of 9/11 and stuff like that.

Yeah I know right?






Well, would you look at that, I'll be.....

Anonymous is not just hackers, you might do well to educate yourself and contribute since you seem to be on the same page - What Is The Plan


ETA: ##SNIP##

I was smiling while watching that video! WE ALL ARE ANONYMOUS! This is the beauty of this whole thing. As was stated, anonymous is NOT a central group, but citizens of the internet that are fed up with government, big pharma, the banking cartel, the control of our food sources etc.If you have a skill to use in this fight, then by all means, use it! This just may be the spark that ignites a movement to fight the tyranny that permeates our country and world today. I said this before, and I will keep saying it, resistance is NOT futile! The more people start resisting, the more the movement will grow!