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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Kitilani
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Yeah, the idea of Utopia is disgusting.
I'm not surprised by your comment. I've read some of your posts before.
U·to·pi·a /yuˈtoʊpiə/ Show Spelled
[yoo-toh-pee-uh] Show IPA
–noun
1. an imaginary island described in Sir Thomas More's Utopia (1516) as enjoying perfection in law, politics, etc.
2. ( usually lowercase ) an ideal place or state.
3. ( usually lowercase ) any visionary system of political or social perfection.
Some people truly believe that the dictators and the Elite of this world truly want a divinely inspired Utopia where everyone has equal say in things. Marxism has never delivered this Utopia in any way shape or form, and it is completely naive to think that those who are trying to shape every aspect of our lives through social engineering and dictatorial "sustainable" advice in our communitities really care about us. You really could benefit from researching the real agenda of the UN an Agenda 21, and what they really have in store for us. They have sold the world a bill of goods talking about being "sustainable" (just another UN buzzword meaning "control of the world's resources by an Elite few) and it's just amazing how some people really believe a handful of Elite have our best interests at heart. Just look at the Club of Rome, Bill Gates and Melinda Gates foundation, and their agenda of depopulation and you will understand that their true agenda is getting rid of the "human parasites" on the planet so that they can have all the resources to themselves. These Elites parade around like they care so much about the common people( just more Marxist nonsense about the proletariat, and even Karl Marx had a maid servant, so he was no better than any of these so called rich people. ) but their real agenda is to get rid of the useless eaters. They will use whatever methods they like, including but not limited to sterilants in the water, sterilants in vaccines(BIll Gates self professed favorite), abortion, financial incentives to limit family size, and controlling all the resources of the planet through rationing. It's so diabolical, and you would do well to get rid of that naive belief they will bring a lovely gorgeous happy Utopia.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Kitilani
What does the dictionary definition of Utopia and Thomas More's book have to do with the Socialist plan for a Totalitarian One World Govt as laid out by the UN Agenda 21 and it's sponsors such as Maurice Strong, Bill Gates, the Club of Rome, and other power elites?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Oh gosh, the first couple sentences of that EO talk about "winning the future". Please gag with a spoon!!!!!! It's all just so disgustingly collectivist, socialist, Utopian, using Orwellian type terminology.
You must be completely on board with TPTB. My post is based on my personal research into the UN Agenda 21, the Club of Rome, Bill Gates statements at the TED conference regarding his personal ideas about using vaccines to stem population growth, and about 30 years worth of general research on the topic of the New World Order. So no, it's not just what other people think. It's years of research and my own thinking process which has distilled everything I have to say. Plus a bit of New Age knowledge and mysticism, as well as Progressive Revelation(not Democrat Progressive), and personal spiritual growth.
Tell me, what about the idea of Utopia makes you think it's so special?
I recommend your handlers declaw you as well.edit on 2-7-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about really.
In my estimation, this is more bureaucratic entrenchment. Through the bureaucracy, in which the government is increasingly more becoming, regulations, rather than law will dictate local politics and local communities. Nefarious? Maybe not, but to what need is there for such a council?
...the “25 x ‘25” initiative, states:
“….that it is the goal of the United States that not later than January 1, 2025, U.S. agricultural, forestry, and working land should provide from renewable resources not less than 25% of total U.S. energy consumption and continue to produce safe, abundant, and affordable food, feed, and fiber.” rehberg.house.gov...
...In a 1969 press release, President Nixon designated ten federal regions, purportedly to “streamline the structure and processes of federal agencies in the field.” Each region was to have an appointed chairman (bureaucrats accountable only to Washington, D.C.) for its Federal Regional Council. Federal Regional Councils were further defined and legitimized in Nixon’s Executive Order 11647 of 1972 (www.sweetliberty.org...)....
The UN’s website verifies that the Agenda 21 action plan is Sustainable Development. Agenda 21 (UN Agenda for the 21st Century) is a 300-page, 40-chapter, “soft-law” policy that came out of the UN Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil in 1992. (Maurice Strong was Secretary-General of this “Rio Earth Summit.”) Agenda 21, though not legally binding, was adopted by 179 nations, including the United States, as a work plan to implement Sustainable Development. The following year, President Clinton created The Presidents Council on Sustainable Development through executive order. The 25-member council includes most Cabinet Secretaries, as well as representatives from The Nature Conservancy, the Sierra Club and other NGOs, as well as industry representatives. The function of this Council has been to find ways to implement Agenda 21 recommendations. In this manner, with virtually no legislative debate whatsoever, the federal government has been implementing Sustainable Development programs nationwide.... www.truthwinds.com...
SEC. 404. COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
Nothing in this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.
www.fda.gov...
International Harmonization
FDA.gov
The harmonization of laws, regulations and standards between and among trading partners requires intense, complex, time-consuming negotiations by CFSAN officials. Harmonization must simultaneously facilitate international trade and promote mutual understanding, while protecting national interests and establish a basis to resolve food issues on sound scientific evidence in an objective atmosphere. Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the freetrade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions...”
“...In a sweeping move that has garnered surprisingly little attention this week the United States and the European Union have signed up to a new transatlantic economic partnership that will see regulatory standards “harmonized” and will lay the basis for a merging of the US and EU into one single market, a huge step on the path to a new globalized world order....” The BBC reported (news.bbc.co.uk...) from the Summit in Washington on Monday: stopspp.com...
... North Farm is the last working dairy farm left for miles. Mr Lawton said: “… all my neighbours have given up. It’s become incredibly bureaucratic and it’s completely over-powered by bureaucrats – there must be two civil servants in Defra (Department for the Environment and Rural Affairs) for every farmer in the countryside.” . …The sheer amount of paperwork and restrictions on what farmers can do is a problem – it takes up around 60 per cent of Mr Lawton’s time. “It’s difficult particularly for us family farms who don’t have a huge staff for administration,” he said www.thisisswindon.co.uk...
Julian Rose exposes the scandal of EU’s deliberate policy to get rid of family farms for the benefit of the corporations and gives a personal account...
....Through the auspices of a senior civil servant in Warsaw, Jadwiga and I were able to address a meeting with the Brussels-based committee responsible for negotiating Poland’s agricultural terms of entry into the EU. It proved to be an ominous foretaste of things to come....
After clearing her throat and leaning slowly forward, the chair-lady said: “I don't think you understand what EU policy is. Our objective is to ensure that farmers receive the same salary parity as white collar workers in the cities. The only way to achieve this is by restructuring and modernising old fashioned Polish farms to enable them to compete with other countries agricultural economies and the global market. To do this it will be necessary to shift around one million farmers off the land and encourage them to take city and service industry jobs to improve their economic position. The remaining farms will be made competitive with their counterparts in western Europe.”
There in a nutshell you have the whole tragic story of the clinically instigated demise of European farming over the past three decades. We protested that with unemployment running at 20 percent how would one provide jobs for another million farmers dumped on the streets of Warsaw? This was greeted with a stony silence, eventually broken by a lady from Portugal, who rather quietly remarked that since Portugal joined the European Union, 60 percent of small farmers had already left the land. “The European Union is simply not interested in small farms,” she said....
...we were invited to the Polish parliament to address the government’s agricultural committee. I gave a speech entitled, “Don’t Follow Us”, in which I explicitly warned of the fate in store for the Polish countryside if Poland joined the EU. I gave some vivid examples of what had happened in the UK over the past two decades: the ripping up of 35 000 miles of hedge rows; the loss of 30 percent of native farmland bird species; 98 percent of species-rich hay meadows, thousands of tonnes of wind and water eroded top-soil, and around fifteen thousand farmers driven off the land every year, accompanied by a rapid decline in the quality of food....
www.i-sis.org.uk...
Oh wow, good one. Cat references are pretty original too
]Everything. I have been having trouble finding any place that is ideally perfect so that sounds pretty good to me.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Kitilani
Kitilani, you are playing word games.
That is why I asked why it was so important to know the dictionary definition of something that is being used by the Elite to control us?
The word Utopia in a general sense means just what the dictionary says, but it's usage in today's lexicon and the agendas of the Elite are obvious to anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx and Marxist philosophy.
I am well aware of the Platonic essence you are trying to convey in a general sense, but the Socialist Utopians of today have de-population as their true motive for the controls they seek to impose on us worldwide.
Sorry, I misunderstood which post you meant, as I made several of them.
Originally posted by indigothefish
reply to post by Kitilani
federal government intervention is not the solution
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Kitilani
Oh wow, good one. Cat references are pretty original too
If the claw fits, honey!
]Everything. I have been having trouble finding any place that is ideally perfect so that sounds pretty good to me.
Great! I hope you find what you are looking for.edit on 2-7-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)edit on 2-7-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ADVISOR
It is only 3 pages, there is no excuse for people not to read it, other than sheer laziness.
Executive Order 13575—Establishment of the White House Rural Council
Originally posted by whatwasthat
I read the executive order. I think this is another attempt to revisit the " forty acres and a mule" promise of reparations for slavery from the post civil war years.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by boondock-saint
reminds me of Hitler and 1939.
Velcome to ve New Vorld Order.
You will do as ve ask
or you vill disappear
any questions ???
It is an inquiry Boon.....Why does it remind you of 1939 and Hitler?
In rural areas, party members successfully infiltrated the influential chambers of agriculture,
helped by the agricultural crisis of 1930-1932.
Collective farming controlled by communists in Russia did now work. I am afraid that collective farming is the goal with the Obama crowd, knowing their Marxist ideals.
...As we have said, Socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, as the socialists would like you to believe, but a consolidate-and-control-the-wealth program for the Insiders.... www.modernhistoryproject.org...
...The broiler chicken industry is perhaps the best example of how rapidly and thoroughly a meat production system can become industrialized and vertically consolidated. Up until the 1950s, most poultry and laying hens were raised in a non-intensive fashion on small family farms. In the early 1950s, technological innovations in automated production, disease control, and nutrition-including the use of antibiotics as growth promoters-allowed large, confined broiler operations to surpass the production capabilities of traditional poultry farms. This led to the development of contract or credit agreements between feed dealers and growers, where feed dealers would supply credit to growers in the form of feed or chicks in exchange for payment when the mature chickens were sent for slaughter. Over time, companies began to integrate and own all aspects of the production process-feed mill, growing birds, and processing plant-and then would contract with growers to house and care for their birds in exchange for a fee. (9) Today, approximately 90% of all broiler chickens are raised by farmers under production contracts and the remaining 10% are raised on-site by the integrated poultry companies themselves. (10) The biggest percentage of the broiler production in Texas is controlled by three companies-Pilgrim's Pride, Tyson, and Sanderson Farms. (11) www.consumersunion.org...
...Bilderberg organization is dynamic, in that it changes with the times, absorbs and crates new parts while excreting the remains of the decaying parts. Members come and go, but the system itself has not changed. It is a self-perpetuating system, a virtual spider web of interlocked financial, political, economic and industry interests....
It´s a meeting of people who represent a certain ideology.
Not One World Government or New World Order as too many people mistakenly believe. Rather, the ideology is of a ONE WORLD COMPANY LIMITED.
...The idea behind each and every Bilderberg meeting is to create what they themselves call THE ARISTOCRACY OF PURPOSE between European and North American elites on the best way to manage the planet. In other words, the creation of a global network of giant cartels, more powerful than any nation on Earth, destined to control the necessities of life of the rest of humanity, obviously from their vantage point, for our own good and in our benefit [hence the "Socialist" wrapping paper"] – THE GREAT UNWASHED AS THEY CALL US.
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Among the more famous Rhodes Scholars:
* Dean Rusk (CFR, Secretary of State, 1961-69)
* Walt Whitman Rostow (Special Assistant for National Security Affairs, 1966-69)
* Harlan Cleveland (Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs in the Kennedy administration, Ambassador to NATO under Presidents Johnson and Nixon)
* Nicholas Katzenbach (CFR, U.S. Attorney General, 1965-66)
* Sen. James William Fulbright (Arkansas, 1945-74)
* Sen. Frank Church (Idaho, 1956-81)
* Sen. Bill Bradley (New Jersey, 1979-97)
* Sen. David Boren (Oklahoma, 1979-94, CFR)
* Sen. Richard D. Lugar (Indiana, 1976-)
* Sen. Larry Pressler (South Dakota, 1979-97, CFR, Phi-Beta-Kappa)
* Sen. Paul Sarbanes (Maryland, 1977-)
* Rep. Elliot H. Levitas (GA, 1975-85)
* Rep. Carl Albert (OH, 1947-77, Speaker of the House from 1971-77)
* Rep. John Brademas (IN, 1959-81, later New York University President)
* Gov. Bill Clinton (Arkansas, 1979-81, 1983-92; President, 1993-2001; CFR, Trilateral Commission -- he didn't graduate from Oxford)
* Gov. Richard Celeste (OH, 1983-91)
* Supreme Court Justice Byron 'Whizzer' White (1962-93, also Phi Beta Kappa)
* Brig. Gen. Pete Dawkins
* Gen. Bernard W. Rogers (Supreme Commander of the NATO forces in Europe, 1979-87)
* Gen. Wesley Clark (Supreme Commander of the NATO forces in Europe, 1997-2000)
* Stansfield Turner (CIA Director, 1977-81)
* R. James Woolsey (CFR, CIA Director, 1993-95)
* Charles Collingwood (TV commentator)
* Howard K. Smith (TV commentator)
* George Jerome Goodman (writer known as 'Adam Smith')
* Hedley Donovan (former Editor-in-Chief of Time magazine, later a senior advisor to President Carter)
* Robert Penn Warren (Pulitzer Prize-winning poet and novelist, best known for his book All the King's Men).
....In 1895, Sidney Webb founded the London School of Economics, which became a branch of the University of London. Among its major contributors: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and Mrs. Ernest Elmhirst, the widow of J. P. Morgan partner Willard Straight, who founded the socialist magazine New Republic....
www.modernhistoryproject.org...
and WTH does the DHS and the DOD have to do with agriculture ???
Homeland Security Presidential Directive 9: Defense of United States Agriculture and Food
HSPD 9 Abstract
Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD) 9 establishes a national policy to defend the agriculture and food system against terrorist attacks, major disasters, and other emergencies. America's agriculture and food system is an extensive, open, interconnected, diverse, and complex structure providing potential targets for terrorist attacks. U.S. agriculture and food systems are vulnerable to disease, pest, or poisonous agents that occur naturally, are unintentionally introduced, or are intentionally delivered by acts of terrorism. The directive lays out policies, including roles and responsibilities, awareness and warning, and vulnerability assessments, to provide the best protection possible against a successful attack on the U.S. agriculture and food system. www.dhs.gov...
....SEC. 1013. EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING THE PROVISION OF FUNDING FOR BIOTERRORISM PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE.
(a) FINDINGS- The Senate finds the following:
(1) Additional steps must be taken to better prepare the United States to respond to potential bioterrorism attacks.
(2) The threat of a bioterrorist attack is still remote, but is increasing for a variety of reasons, including.....
(9) Improvements must be made in assuring the safety of the food supply.
epic.org...